just a silly

You realize there are other costs to the masks than dollars, right? Have you even once stopped to ask about what other problems your preferred solution might cause?

Try as I may I cannot think of any other costs that wearing a mask would impose

Enlighten me

For one, what about the environmental impact? Don't you worry about the environment? There's an enormous amount of waste being generated by disposable mask use.

For another, what about the psychological effect, especially on young children? Human beings are social creatures. We need one another, and our faces are a wealth of social and emotional information. Depriving developing children of that may irreparably harm their psychological development.

For another, even the CDC has admitted that people with some health conditions should not wear them, but in some areas, social pressure is so high these people may do so anyway, to their own harm.

Also, even supposing the masks do prevent the spread of a virus (a questionable assertion in itself), if a person wears the same mask repeatedly and doesn't wash it every day, it can quickly become contaminated with bacteria, which that person breathes in, causing rather than preventing illness.

It sounds to me like you haven't thought this through at all. It sounds to me like you're an obedient drone, just repeating your programming.

1. Environment impact? Coming from conservatives who don’t otherwise care about eco-issues, this is concern-trolling. Face masks are surely a drop in the bucket of daily human waste generation. If that’s still a concern, use reusable masks or face-shields.

2. This is a good point (and wife and I have already thought about this), but it really applies only to children in early stages of development. Parents can go unmasked when at home with their kids and transparent face shields are an option for caretakers. A caretaker being masked doesn’t compare with the paramount importance of staying alive and healthy.

3. I’m not sure what health conditions you’re referencing. The advice for the general public is to mask up.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html

4. Masks prevent transmission of virus particles, full stop. It’s why surgeons have used them for decades. I’ve already posted the chart that explains it. We don’t need to go over it again.

Your anti-mask ideology is unusually well-developed but these concerns don’t debunk the general guidance.

Not long ago, the Washington D.C. government instituted a strict mask mandate. However, they made an exemption for government officials and employees. Can you explain this? Because it makes perfect sense to me. But from your point of view, I suspect it must seem utterly bizarre.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/dc-mayor-mask-order-requires-facial-coverings-while-outside

Maybe Canada not having a bunch of dipshits gathering on Huge crowds had something to do with it?

That and the fact that Socialism isn't communism, I'm Canada I know how it works

The goal of socialism is communism

sorry *Canadian*

I understand, I’m sorry for you.

[image deleted]--trump is not mandating masks, and tells you to wear one if you want....
--cdc and fauci told us not to wear masks for quite some time
using your logic, and that masks absolutely work, then cdc and fauci have a higher blame game going on

also, recent reports of climbing infection rates where masks are mandated and being used....suggests that masks don't work......

you bring up Canada, five days ago I ran the #s of usa/canada cv deaths to pop:

Population / CV Deaths / % pop died

Canada / 37million / 9,219 / 0.0249
USA / 328 million / 196,856 / 0.06

Canada’s rate of cv death/population is 41.5% to that of the USA's

So Canada had a little under half the cv deaths to population that the USA did....can this be solely attributed to Trump and masks? I don't think so...prove me wrong.

The USA has/had a lot of international flights, my guess a lot more than Canada, so the USA probably had a lot more cv ‘spreaders’ enter the country than Canada did, and therefore higher number of infections/deaths

Did Canada keep sick covid people out of nursing homes? If they did good for them, NY, NJ and Washington all screwed up and the # of deaths would have been a lot lower had our seniors been protected.

went to your meme again and now realize that you were listing just one day totals...
look at the totals the way I did and a totally different picture!

Again ignore the thousands of dipshits in the streets spreading the disease. That had no effect. By the time anyone said anything about wearing masks, in April, NY had surpassed all other countries in the world in cases. A little late as well as there were no masks to be had. Canada has the population of California with less concentration of population.

[image deleted]5 days ago I commented on your meme, and the photo you included in it (which is in your comment her - canada 2 usa 1,176) and you never responded, still don't understand your 'math', here's the info again....if I'm wrong please let me know how

Population / CV Deaths / % pop died
Canada / 37million / 9,219 / 0.0249
USA / 328 million / 196,856 / 0.06

I guess I just didn’t understand your argument

Even using your logic Canada comes out ahead... right?

I wasn't making an argument but an observation that your insert (2 in canada 1,176 usa) is statically correct for that day but very misleading when you look at actual 'to date' death per population

In total deaths Canada is definitely doing better with only 41.5% of the USA death rate per population.

Statistics can be misleading:

Quebec Canada death rate per million is .0678%
Maine USA the death rate per million is .0102%
They share a border and Quebec’s death rate is over 600% higher…
& Quebec’s .0678% death rate is higher than the USA’s .06

At 1,600 deaths per 1,000,000 people, Montreal is among the worst hit urban areas in North America. At the end of May, the city's death rate was also higher than most American cities, including Chicago and Los Angeles. Quebec’s death rates are worse than those in Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Montreal

In the continental USA:
23 states are democrat run, have 117,735 deaths, 59.54% of all deaths
26 states are republican run, have 79,996 deaths, 40.45% of all deaths
Liberal states (3 fewer) have 60% of the deaths…..

There can be a lot of variables when comparing two countries, or even regions within one country:
--What type of exposure from international travel did each receive
--what percentage of the population is in rural areas
--what percentage of the population is in 1mil + pop cities
--what is the overall health and resulting comorbidity
--what percentage of the population is over 60 years old
--and with covid how well were seniors in nursing homes protected
--what preventative/treatment measures that were/weren’t taken
--when did a region or country get its first covid case, ie. was it one of the first to get the spreading covid or latter

You state that Canada and two islands (Australia & New Zealand) handled it better than the USA – I would really appreciate you letting me know what they did differently that accounts for their lower rates

https://theconversation.com/how-canada-compares-to-other-countries-on-covid-19-cases-and-deaths-142632 you might find this interesting, it is an article on Canada and how it compares to other countries, with some interesting graphs regarding liberal, social democratic, and conservative governments corona virus ‘results’.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2020/06/the-costs-and-benefits-of-canadas-pandemic-response/
This is an interesting article on Sweden which focused on reducing the number of deaths rather than of infections; in it is does specifically list the problem Canada had with elderly corona virus deaths.