"You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier."

Hahah you are a dim bulb. That’s exactly what it means you stupid moron. If only 13% of the population is black then for a black president to win means that a lot of non black people would have to overcome their “racism”’to vote and elect a black president. They did that twice ya boob. Ergo racism is not as prevalent as you want it to be.

That's an interesting turn as I could've sworn the naysayers of Obama voters "only" voted for him because he was black which in and of itself is racist. So which is it? Obama was voted in by racists or racism is no longer a prevalent problem?

Obama was voted in by racists. Racism is still a problem, just not the form we are brainwashed to believe.

Yes, the recent attempts at redirecting racism are proof there is still racism. In actuality it is prejudice, the belief in exclusive superiority of racism is largely Limited to fringe groups both black and white.

There are also some glaring fallacies and thinking errors in his argument, though to be fair they are fairly prevalent. Specifically, there is the assumption that local conditions are universal, and also that there were millions of voters sharing one coherent opinion. Even if we accept the idea that all Democrats are hive-minded sheeple (...an assumption without conclusive proof, but abundant anecdotal evidence) that still leaves millions of other moderates, centrists, and non Democrats who do not fit the theory.

His suppositions, as you and TobyThePug noted, are not mutally exclusive. It is possible for many people to vote for Obama because of his skin color and not his policies, especially if their skin color matches his.

We can conclude that those who voted for him but did not have not the same skin color include some people who are not racist.

I know this is tedious detail, but I felt it needed to be pointed out.

Says the person who said the name *Karen* was racist

You mean that meme that targets one specific group? What could be wrong about that, Mr anti racist?

My god you idiot, People call other people *Karens* Because of their behavior and what they do

And it still is, I thought you blocked me? Please block me again

Racism and prejudice. Same definition, different name, same problem.

Black people have a word to describe "a preference for a skin tone of another black person" as colorism. And they can prefer darker skin or lighter skin.. and they say that isn't "racism" either. But it is. Applying a different term doesn't make it a different thing.

Shell shock, battle fatigue, operational exhaustion, post-traumatic stress disorder... if you think only fringe groups practice racism; you must not have a lot of friends or family then. Or you have an amazing family and diverse group of friends. Maybe. Maybe.

Racism and prejudice are not the same thing. They may have the same effect but they are not the same. Everyone has prejudice, some are more aware of it than others but it is based on perception and can be directed towards nearly anything or anyone be it color, short people, people who wear glasses, people with a certain accent, fat people, Asian drivers, blondes, gingers, etc. Prejudice means pre judge.

The WW2 era Japanese and Germans were believers and practitioners of racial superiority that is Racism. Racism is actually a Limited definition meaning only that, Belief in the superiority of one race over another. The KKK, BLM are examples of others who believe. I submit these are fringe groups and My point was that less people believe in that than those who have simple prejudices.

Racism is a form of prejudice. True, not all prejudice is racial based. I’m sorry I did not make that clear.

And I submit these fringe groups have not gotten smaller but quieter. Which makes it much harder to prove that they have gotten smaller or larger. Just going by the internet alone, I’d argue the latter more than the former.

Being anonymous has embolden many racists.

Obama also won the popular vote because of racists. Go figure.

Thank you for proving my point.

I would not call what you said a fact. I'm not denying racists voted for Obama or that people didn't largely vote for Obama because he was black. I just don't know if there is a legitimate way to quantify how many people did this to say that he won because of that with facts.

So, no, I would not call what you said a fact.

But, it does prove my point that people who are now claiming that racism is no longer a problem because we had a Black President are woefully ignorant to how it's still a problem post-2009.

I just don't understand why people say America is a racist country. It's a fact that America is the most anti-racist, multi-racial country in the world. That IS a fact.
(Sorry though.)
I mean, black racists could have voted for him, but not white racists. Yes, there are racists in this country, but america all in all is not racist.

Personal growth comes from learning from your mistakes.

But don't forget, what about white racists who want to prove they're not racist? What about white racists who believe in black superiority? Racism is a scale. Not everyone whose racist puts on robes and burn crosses or post online about genetic superiority.

Generalization is always a dirty thing, which in and of itself is a generalization.

Ideally, you'd be right. The truth is unfortunately far from that ideal. The solution is to not shut down opponents or discredit them or allow them to be discredited. The solution is to listen, to watch, to read, and to collect facts. Then only present these facts, respectfully if you can, when people state generalizations or display any ignorance that are in direct contradiction to the facts.

:-D

I'll delete that.

"No, racism that is both passive and aggressive are still problems. No one is brainwashed unless they say shit like "A Black President means we're living in a post-racist society." We aren't."

I find it funny this is the most downvoted of my comments. I'm sorry for those of you who don't like hearing the truth.

How can you tell how many downvotes your comment receives?

No, racism that is both passive and aggressive are still problems. No one is brainwashed unless they say shit like "A Black President means we're living in a post-racist society." We aren't.

Black and white racism is on the rise due to the current situation. It is not a one color problem.

How many of those black people are in places of power that are pushing their Supremacists agenda? Now how many white people? My concern is largely by law enforcement and in government who fail to take the necessary steps to report and investigate unarmed civilian deaths by cops.

Plenty of black people in positions of power. Especially in blue states. Police brutality is committed against all races and is something to be addressed by all. Redirecting racism is not solving the problem. You denying that that is happening is sticking your head in the sand. We have common problems we should be fighting instead we will fight each other over what names we call each other.

I would not say there are plenty of black people in power. Nor do I think many of them are pushing a black supremacist agenda. Then again, I’m woefully ignorant of how many of our leaders are white supremacists. I dare say, the latter are a bit more open than the former despite quieting their rhetoric in public. But Twitter is a funny thing. It doesn’t just embolden the anonymous, it seems. And I’m not not just talking about the white racists either.

I agree that police brutality affects all races. But not all brutality ends with a dead unarmed black person, or white person. Sometimes the black man just goes to jail.

I’m not denying that “redirected” racism (which is just racism, by the way) is happening, I’m demanding proof. As I proved, anyone can print false information and hand out pieces of paper. Show me concrete information and I’ll condemn it. I’ve done it before. Show me questionable information and I will question it. And I always will.

Asking you to be objective isn’t exacerbating the problem. You being gullible is. That is not an insult. Gullibility is an excellent source of humility. Humility leads one to accept they made a mistake. Mistakes are an opportunity to learn. When we learn, we change our minds. Or you could try to humble me. But I dare say it would be far easier to prove your point by showing me what I ask if it’s so simple for me to ignore the obvious beyond some lies printed on a piece of paper.

I call you no name but if you must be stubborn, then be stubborn. You won’t solve our problems by failing to seem the truth when you’re happy to feed your confirmation bias.

Racism is not a white only thing. I have heard black people say vile things As well as white people and Hispanics too about other races. The perception being propagated is that white people and white culture are bad and something to be ashamed of. I am not ashamed, if I was black I wouldn’t be ashamed to be that. I deny no man their heritage, I owned no slaves I owe no one an apology. All men treated equally under the law. The rest we will have to figure out, but the rhetoric and redirected hate will not lead to progress or resolution of the problem it only exacerbates it. Racism breeds racism, hate breeds hate. The new jack doesn’t get it.

I have never said racism is a white thing nor have I made such claim that racism is a white thing only. I think the main perception being propagated is that racial ignorance is predominately an issue among white people, not that white culture is bad.

The terms "white pride" and "white power" have largely been uttered by white supremacists. Black supremacists have, of course, adopted similar rhetoric which was allowed to evolve to acceptable such as "black pride" and "black power" but these were predominately phrases used to fight oppression rather than exploit it.

I agree that you owe no apologies and that all men should be treated equally under law.

You keep using that term "redirected." I want you to think about what you're saying there. These are people that have been shown nothing but what they perceive of as hate. I would argue that deflecting or redirecting their "redirected" hate is just as bad if not hypocritical.

The only thing I've asked you to do is to be objective and less gullible when presented vindicated reasons (either real or made up) to dismiss the core message of Black Lives Matter. You don't have to agree with their methods, but you can at least find some common ground. You said it yourself:

"Police brutality is committed against all races and is something to be addressed by all."

Tell them that and they will most certainly agree.

I have no issue with Black Lives Matter as a movement for equality I have a problem with Black Lives Matter as an admitted Marxist organization that I also believe to be a racist organization directing and leading it. Cops shouldn’t kill people because they can and should be held to the same standards For use of force citizens are with some exceptions in acknowledgement of the danger of the profession. But I will not surrender to communism to rectify it.

Racism towards white people is a significant problem, and it is worse than racism towards black people, because anti-white racism has become accepted by mainstream news and social media, as well as popular celebrities and politicians. Saying "white lives don't matter" on Twitter won't get you censored or shamed; it will get you promoted. Anti-white racism has gone mainstream. But anti-black racism will easily get one banned on mainstream social media, attacked by the mainstream media, and denounced by politicians and celebrities. However, mass riots that see statues destroyed, buildings burned and people murdered will be defended by the mainstream news, social media, and popular politicians and celebrities. Many people will express support for the extremists behind the violent riots. But if a much smaller riot took place, a riot held by white nationalists, the reaction would be very different. Those who express support for it, or even refuse to denounce it (hence the phrase "white silence is violence") will be censored on social media, attacked by the media, and denounced by popular politicians and celebrities. The double standard here is very real, and very scary.

Racism is racism If you believe Your race is superior to all other races you are a racist. If you are proud of your heritage and where you come from you are not a racist. Every man should be Proud of their heritage.

The current anti white racism is easily suppressed but people have to have the guts to stand up. Condoning racism
Makes you a racist so all the
Lefty Liberals are now racists.

Lefty liberals have been racist for a while. The Democrat Party has always been racist and sexist. The Democrats supported slavery and polygamy. And now they are supporting reparations and many other racist things.

I’d argue it’s more scary to white supremacists and I don’t much care for them.

I disagree that there is a majority acceptance anti-white racism. It is perhaps not as censored or taken seriously. You may be right about that.

So with that said, you should definitely call out the double standard, when it happens, but not when those who are oppressed stand up for their right to live.

We will likely never see a post racist society. In prison when you are stripped of everything people group together almost exclusively by race. Why is that?

To say no progress has been made is not factual when compared with conditions in the 60’s before MLK. People will always harbor prejudice and you can’t change what people think as much as how they act. By and large the country has made progress in how people act and up till now greater acceptance and tolerance. Those advances are all in jeopardy as the rhetoric and hatred is ramped up exponentially increasing its own creation.

Because those in prison tend to be untrusting of those not like them. Those established groups do not leave much room for new prisoners to start a multicultural gang.

I never said progress has not been made. But just because we may never solve the issue of racism doesn’t mean we should do nothing to combat systemic racism.

So define systemic racism, I don’t see it.

Black people have been historically held back in terms of employment, political representation, financial earnings, and education more than any other race in this country. The only thing they exceed in is high incarceration numbers.

White supremacists frequently site these facts and that because other minorities have managed to overcome these kind of setbacks that there is no inherent systematic racism but rather an indication of racial inferiority among black people and other races.

It is entirely possible that genetically they are predisposed but I find that a rather convenient way to self-alievent how white supremacy has gripped the powers that be that control those aggrievances, or worse, exacerbate them.

It seems reckless to ignore the fact that they were the ones primarily held back as members of our society as early as the twentieth century. To me, that view that they are genetically inferior is repugnant, a gross exaggeration, and underestimation of black people’s ability to integrate into American culture.

Well where I live they aren’t kept out or locked out in any way? Are they treated that way in say, Atlanta? I will grant that it may be different in this or other localities and we are not all the same and shouldn’t be, each of us is unique. We should be equal under the law regardless of race, religion, color, shape, sex, etc. So share with me where systemic racism is ingrained in the law. The system is what? the codes and regulations that guide our Decision making and operational actions. Where is there inequality under the law? Or in the system?

This is a new play on the proverbial “man” is keeping us down”. The man is not doing a very good job considering the Number of blacks holding positions of power on local and national government, the number of successful Black Millionaires, Etc.

The racism is ingrained in the people. Those who write the laws and those who use the loopholes to exploit it practice systemic racism.

Slavery is still legal in America. The thirteenth amendment says:

“ Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

The loophole is that those who are “duly convicted” can be punished with involuntary servitude, or slavery, as punishment. We are in the middle of a trade war with China who boasts the highest sweatshops in the world. I believe it is ultimately the US’s plan to succeed China in this trade by finally exploiting the prison population. The US the highest prison population in the world.

Black people make up the majority of the prison population and third of the US black population is in jail. That is highly suspect.

There have been black millionaires before the civil rights movement and indeed these same excuses were used by oppressors to keep the civil rights act from happening. Calling them extra rights for blacks. They still do this today with other minorities.

You’re right about one thing. There is nothing new about all this. It just doesn’t make the complaints any less true.

So the prison population has been dropping mainly due to less marijuana convictions and harsh sentencing. The percentage of blacks and whites in prison population are inverse to theIr representation in the general population. More blacks are incarcerated as a percentage than whites. That in and of itself does not prove generalized racism by the police or persecutors. It is more likely indicative of other societal factors that drive people to a life of criminality.

"Presidnet." Who's stupid?

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"Hymie town"

Agreed. Have an upvote

But how?