release the prisoners?

that is a FACT

Well at least it wasn't because of the virus amIright my fellow humanitarians?

not like we did not see it coming. but yea its the 'democrats'. stfu

[image deleted] Don't try to practice medicine without a license.

I agree that masks alone are not the only step. It seems like many below average thinkers have seized upon this as the Way to Oppose, as if the virus cares. I have no medical training beyond Red Cross first aid and blood borne pathogens, and even I can recognize that masks are only part of the defense.

Why is social distancing in prisons impossible? They have cells, and the traffic in and out of the prison is limited. It seems that it is the insistence on exercising rights that places them at risk. Provide testing for the staff and actually enforce security procedures and this really shouldn't be a problem.

hmm this is interesting,we cant release prisoners that havent served their sentence but we likely wont have the budget to give each prisoner in the US a good amount of masks.

Because the masks are only a precaution from temporary person to person contact. The people who choose to wear face masks are not doing so in their home, with family members they live with or frequently visit. The face masks are not for their protection but to prevent the spread to people who they don't constantly have contact with. Prisoners live in close quarters and cannot obey social distancing due to limited space, nor do we have the resources to keep them sanitized so they do not infect each other. Not saying I agree with releasing the prisoners. Just explaining why face masks wouldn't work for them specifically.

If we left them in prison, and they were infected but showing no symptoms, visits would have to be behind glass or with both prisoners and visitors wearing masks. In that case, it would work.

I don't understand this. Why continue visits if it places prisoners at risk of infection?

Imagine if you're on death row and just want to see your family before you're executed, or worse trying to overturn your sentence. Yes, I'm aware the simple mentality of, "they deserve to die" but not all people who are convicted and sentenced to death are guilty. There is always a margin of error and therefor should be some small degree of pity.

And innocent people in nursing homes, who may die soon, want visits with their families, but that was forbidden by the stay at home order. I can't visit family out of state. My mil is in poor health and could die before lock down ends. But hey average people's family visits don't matter, but prisoners do.

I'm not suggesting that they deserve to die. But if a choice has to made between somebody's life and somebody's rights, I think their life is the higher priority.

Not everyone who is being released is on Death Row. Death sentences are a different conversation for another time.

Yes, the people being released were supposedly close to the end of their sentence. I think the idea was they didn't want to make them serve longer than they were suppose to.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/18/lockdown-protests-spread-coronavirus-cellphone-data

The main utility of social mask is to ultra-low the viral charge spread in the enviroment.

In other words, the basic mask or homemade mask, etc. not protect you from get the disease, it protects you for (if the case you where infected), spread coronavirus on the public enviroment, and infect others.

So, the mask which protect you from geting covid, is the mask that the rest of ppl wear in public and work places, except if you are using n95(or superior) + protection glasses, which real give some protection from covid- if it is in the ambient.

It's extremely easy to stop the virus if everyone uses any mask, but need to be everyone, does not work if some people wears and others not.

And that's how covid-19 has being efectively stopped in most asian countries, people are used to facial mask before pandemia, and they wear it even if it is not forced by the law because their culture of social consciusness

public health is also a right and yes, some individual rights are ALWAYS sacrificed to protect the most entire freedom in special circunstances.

A fine for not wear anything over nose and mouth, except special cases, is worth sacrifice to stop this f**king virus as fast as possible.

Except for the fact that face masks are completely useless for preventing the spread of viruses.

Maybe back in the day they thought they prevented spreading germs, but now they know this is not the case.

"Literature reviews have confirmed that wearing a mask during surgery has no impact whatsoever on wound infection rates during clean surgery. A recent 2014 report states categorically that no clinical trials have ever shown that wearing a mask prevents contamination of surgical sites."

Pedantic and disingenuous.

You're the king of pedantic.

This meme explain it. Applies to all type of masks.

What utter idiocy.

1. Being peed on is NOTHING like being exposed to a virus. Viruses cannot penetrate skin. Even if they do find their way to nasal passages:

"coughing, sneezing, nasal hairs, respiratory tract cilia, mucous producing lining cells and the phagocytic activity of alveolar macrophages provide protection against inhaled foreign bodies including fungi, bacteria and viruses"

2. Pee soaked pants means the pee stays in direct contact with your body, a horrible analogy for "protection". Wearing a face mask provides no protection whatsoever from viruses.

3. So if a guy pees his pants he is in constant contact with his own urine, another failed analogy. Masks do not stop or even slow the expulsion of viruses. They can easily pass through the fabric and pass directly through the inevitable gaps found in masks on the top, bottom and sides.

That chart is total BS. I've seen so many of these irresponsible made-up unscientific charts it's ridiculous. The fabric used in these masks are not magic one-way fabric. Virus expelled in breathing, coughing or sneezing are NOT suspended in droplets, they pass through mask fabric freely. Viruses measure less than 0.05 microns and masks are only rated for 5 micron particles or larger. It's like trying to carry ball bearings in a soccer net.... useless!

https://www.gov.sg/article/the-science-behind-why-masks-help-prevent-covid-19-spread

so helpful thank you for finding these articles for us

Try reading something written before the hysteria began, not from sites looking to cash in with clickbait or that have a political agenda.

https://www.oralhealthgroup.com/features/face-masks-dont-work-revealing-review/

That article proves that masks are NOT effective at stopping the spread of viruses. It only talks about droplets, and viruses are NOT only expelled in droplets.

"Through the use of highly sensitive instruments it is now appreciated that the aerosols transmitted from the respiratory tract due to coughing, sneezing, talking, exhalation and certain medical and dental procedures produce respiratory particles that range from the very small (less than 5 microns) to the very large (greater than a 100 microns) and that all of these particles are capable of being inhaled by persons close to the source. This means that respiratory aerosols potentially contain bacteria averaging in size from 1-10 microns and viruses ranging in size from 0.004 to 0.1 microns. It is also acknowledged that upon their emission large “droplets” will undergo evaporation producing a concentration of readily inhalable small particles surrounding the aerosol source."

It is not the same to be infected by millions of viruses than by thousands. If you get a low viral load, you have a better chance of overcoming the disease well without too many sequelae that will accompany you for the rest of your life.

Now you are just guessing. Masks do NOT prevent the spread of viruses, and pointing out obvious unrelated info does not support your argument.

The number of viruses in one's body is NOT the same as the amount of exposure to viruses in the environment, as the human body had respiratory system defenses far superior to any face masks.

Recovery from the flu and the cold is total and there are no lingering side effects.

Please, take seriously this topic. You are wrong. I'm 100% sure of it. Check more sources of information. Mask could save many lives.

On the surface, COVID-19 looks similar to the seasonal flu.

Both can cause symptoms such as fever and body aches. Both are more deadly to people over age 65.

And the viruses that cause these illnesses spread in similar ways, mainly from person to person through respiratory droplets.

But COVID-19 is not the seasonal flu.

In many ways, it’s much worse.

you folks better start taking this more seriously.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-covid-19-isnt-the-flu

Water (h2o) is even smaller than a virus, and the pants make urine keep inside.

The material clogs the virus outlet in small droplets of water, it is recommended to use at least 2 layers of cloth:

https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/808377

You utter moron. Water is a liquid not a particle. Stop pretending you understand this. You think cloth can stop water? I suggest you pee in your pants and see what happens Mr Wizard.

By your logic, if "water is smaller than viruses" how would it be possible for viruses to be suspended in droplets that supposedly get trapped in mask fabric?

The "droplets" is old, outdated science. It's now known that viruses expelled in coughing and sneezing ARE NOT trapped in droplets but are emitted directly. As they measure less than 0.05 microns, they EASILY pass through mask fabric, which can only trap huge droplets 5 microns or larger.

You utter moron. I posting a link with a a video which demostrates the efectivity of blocking the virus inside. But you ignore it, just because it demostrates that your ideas are wrong and may kill some people if they believe them.

If I am answering this, it is because I believe that some human life can be saved.

I see that I will not convince you of anything, look for yourself the information that shows that what you say is wrong.

99% of experts advise wearing masks, and that is something old, which has been known since the 19th century with other epidemics. Even with the plague in the Middle Ages, doctors intuitively donned those flowery peak masks, and there was some effectiveness in reducing the chance of infection.

Saying that masks don't work is the same as saying that the earth is flat. The difference is that people die from this kind of move that I do not know where it comes from, or what interests it responds to.

There is no point in risking your life just because you have the comfort of not carrying a simple piece of cloth for everyone.

The virus is transmitted by droplets of different sizes, which masks can block in a good way, especially if they are carried by the infected person, since the droplets themselves initially block the outlet of the flow of particles, in the same way as the example with urine .

You are completely, and utterly WRONG. Your knowledge is stuck in the Middle Ages.

https://www.oralhealthgroup.com/features/face-masks-dont-work-revealing-review/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177146/

Adding to this, the protection from the virus isn't just the mask. Like any form of security, you rely on layers so that if one layer fails or is defeated you still have more. Facemask + social distancing + essential trips only = a degree of protection from the virus.

Agree, mask are first barrier, because the virus spreads on air which reach surfaces, if you put mask on all people, all the infected would have a mask too, which means infection rate lowers tremendously From R=3-5 to R <1, which means the virus can be stopped.

What moronic babbling. Now the CDC is backpedaling, says virus does NOT easily spread on surfaces. HEALTHY PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO WEAR MASKS OR STAY AT HOME. Healthy people are not germ factories, they don't cough or sneeze up a storm. In fact, coughing and sneezing is a normal bodily mechanism to protect itself from irritants and infectious materials. Never heard so many ass-backwards people spouting nonsense in my life. If you have cold and flu symptoms stay home as people always do. They are the ones who should stay at home because their coughing/sneezing would emit a lot of germs/viruses, and masks would be USELESS to prevent that. You CANNOT stop the typical prevalence and spread of influenza and coronaviruses. Masks worn by healthy people in public DO NOT stop this spread. They do however reduce your oxygen intake, trap dust and droplets on your lips and nose and face, and provide a false sense of security in people who they they provide protection against viruses, which they absolutely do not.

Hello,

Be calm please,

Check this links completely first, then if you say something, demostrate that you have read them with some valid arguments, related to the thematic (staying at home is not part of the discussion here):

https://www.gov.sg/article/the-science-behind-why-masks-help-prevent-covid-19-spread

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340603522_Face_Masks_Against_COVID-19_An_Evidence_Review

https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/808377

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgoTMOgb3Ds

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200504-coronavirus-what-is-the-best-kind-of-face-mask

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200409105405.htm

I've done my own research. You clearly don't have the intelligence to comprehend and analyze the things you are reading. You think water is smaller than a virus!! You've said nothing to disprove anything I've said. You are misguided with a false sense of purpose, setting yourself up as a hero who is "saving lives". Your references are crap, government and MSM propaganda written during this pandemic nonsense. The researchgate paper is particularly ridiculous, focused more on policy response and still using the outdated "droplet" theory.

I see I could not convince you, But you are wrong. These links have enough evidence to prove it. Just read them seriously. And hear some asian experts. In most asian countries the virus has being controlled, thanks to mask used massively, and the economy is ok. It's wrong the dilemma about economy or health.

I am in an Asian country and I am close with top government health officials. The "experts" have willingly misled governments around the world, giving them contradictory and misleading information. The predictions of Neil Fergeson at Imperial College were a massive failure, and that scumbag who called for lockdown was caught breaking his own rule, sleeping with his mistress. The WHO and CDC "experts" have consistently got everything wrong, flip-flopping on every aspect of this fake pandemic. They are completely unreliable from a scientific standpoint. They shouldn't be serving it up, and you or anyone else shouldn't be gobbling it down.

Who or what are you asshole? Ever heard of airplanes? Unlike you, I've not only been out of my basement, I've been around the world. And judging from your immature ravings I'm sure I've lived in the United States longer than you, someone who can't even understand basic English sentences.

There are numerous studies that suggest if 80% of people wear a mask in public, then COVID-19 transmission could be halted. Until a vaccine or a cure for COVID-19 is discovered, cloth face masks might be the most important tool we currently have to fight the pandemic.

Those studies are outdated, based on old droplet theory. There will NEVER be a vaccine or cure for influenza or coronavirus, because that's not how they work. They are minor respiratory infections that are not fatal. CDC admits flu shots don't work and they have admitted they failed to make a cv vaccine for decades. Cloth masks are utterly useless to prevent the spread if viruses and you are an utter fool to believe otherwise. The only "pandemic" is the annual flu and cold season, which sees high numbers of hospital visits but no deaths. No one is dying from sars-cov-2, and SARS and MERS were statistically insignificant. The CDC stats for flu deaths are 99% pneumonia cases, and a handful of "flu deaths". Same manipulation going on with covid death labeling, even Dr Birx and health officials around the world have openly admitted as much, so why don't you believe them as blindly as you believe in magic cloth?

Ok, I see you are a troll. Bye.

"JeffreyRyan

I am in an Asian country and I am close with top government health officials."

Oh no, you are just precious. *hugs*

#drinkthebleach

Go f**k yourself.

Would you like to watch? Is that your thang?

More evidence (related to preview papers):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/05/14/here-is-more-evidence-for-face-mask-use-with-covid-19-coronavirus/

This is related to: https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/12/2006874117

Useless study. It has just been released, so it has not been peer reviewed, much better to refer to material written before this plandemic, as it could be biased propaganda funded by people with certain ulterior motives for public policy, private gain, or personal fame.

You are the obvious type of sucker who does a Google search and just opens first page results which everyone knows is now censored to only show results from sites with vested interests that align with the ideas of the company's owners.

Also it is still about droplets, which is outdated science. Even if it is accurate, it is neglecting the viruses which are expelled which are not in droplets, which have been proven to exist.

More evidence: https://fightcovid19.hku.hk/hku-hamster-research-shows-masks-effective-in-preventing-covid-19-transmission/

Are you on drugs? Thafuq are you babbling? I couldn't get past 2 lines, it's just that ridiculous.

#drinkthebleach

As usual, you have nothing, just detractions and no facts. Nice hashtag declaring to the world "I'm a raving lunatic."

Yes, indeed you are.