racist president?

haha...found this a couple of months back. Barry #1!
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YUS

What did Obama do that was racist?

Not being familiar with using the Leftist playbook, I didn't know you actually had to be or do something racist to be called racist or nazi.

I thought you were allowed to just call anybody who had different opinions than you a racist. Isn't that how it works? I mean the left calls all conservatives and centrists racist and nazi without any proof.

Welcome to the SJW club then!

...But no that is not actually how it works

You are one of the most perspicacious conservatives here so link me examples of Obama's racism. Maybe I just missed them

While I don't believe Obama was an overt racist, I do think he was very divisive. I think he held a certain amount of disdain for white people.

In his book, he wrote, "The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person..."

He also wrote "That's just how white folks will do you. It wasn't merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. "

When asked about his continuing relationship with the overt racist Jeremiah Wright he responded, "I can no more disown (Jeremiah Wright) than I can disown the black community."

After a black nationalist murdered five Dallas police officers in cold blood, Dallas Police Chief David Brown said the suspect “said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.” But when Obama commented on the shooting while in Warsaw, Poland, he said, “I think it’s very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”

After Tashfeen Malik and Syed Farook, who both had ties to ISIS, killed 14 people at an office Christmas party in San Bernardino, Calif., Obama urged the public not to jump to the conclusion that it was terrorism just because the perpetrators were Muslim.

“It is possible that this was terrorist-related, but we don’t know. It’s also possible that this was workplace-related.”

However, in the cases of the deaths of Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Freddie Gray, and others, Obama was quick to immediately (and incorrectly) jump to racism as the cause. His famous "If I had a son" comment.

He also invited leaders of Black Lives Matters to the white house many times and appointed race-baiter Al Sharpton to a task force on race relations.

Excellent examples of his divisiveness.

The fact that he has wrote and spoke so much about his father and so little in comparison about his white mother always struck me as odd, too.

There were things that needed to be said, realities for some people that needed to be exposed. If you don't believe racism exists in this country in all its ugliness, there are plenty of Youtube videos to educate you on that. The police shootings have led to body cams being worn which is good for all of us because it's not just POC who are getting shot by police, their numbers are just a lot higher than other people. As we've seen, there are a lot of white supremacists who have infiltrated entire police departments. For them, it was open season on black people. Again, these are realities you might not want to admit to yourself but what's sad is it took a black president to shed light on them.

First of all, I agree that racism still exists in every country and from people of every race. However, I also believe the U.S. has made great strides to combat racism in all its forms, but there is still more to do.

Unfortunately, in the end, I don't think we will ever remove all racism. It is human nature to identify more closely with people who look, act, and hold similar beliefs as yourself.

"POC who are getting shot by police, their numbers are just a lot higher than other people."

For a little perspective, there are more white people killed each year by police than there are blacks. Even though a minority of the population, POC are involved in the majority of police encounters.

Now, back to racism, anytime someone says "All _____ (insert any race) people are" that is racist. Anytime you attribute traits, attitudes, tendencies, values, or beliefs by an immutable characteristic such as skin color, you are being racist.

So when Obama said things like "she is a typical white person" that is racist.

Oh, BTW, not that it really matters, but, Obama was not our first black president. He was the first mulatto president. He was genetically as much black as he was white.

And when Trump says there's very fine people on both sides, but goes on and on about how violent the anti-nazi protesters were when a woman was run over by a nazi? You don't think Trump has been more racially divisive than anyone? When he has certified white supremacists in his cabinet? His entire campaign was run on anti-Latin immigrant xenophobia. Right now he's got kids from Central and South America still locked up in cages away from their parents even amidst a pandemic.

Obama was racially divisive BECAUSE he was black more than anything he may have said or not said. Whatever his DNA test came back as, he looks black and he self-identifies as black, in addition to being African-American and everyone else in the country thinks he is and many of the homegrown racists absolutely loathed the fact that he was the president.

You do know that your first statement is false and has been debunked a number of times.

No, President Trump not xenophobic, he is anti-illegal-alien.

The definition of xenophobic is "Having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries". How could he be xenophobic when his wife is an immigrant?

You said "Obama was racially divisive BECAUSE he was black more than anything he may have said or not said. Whatever his DNA test came back as, he looks black and he self-identifies as black,"

Sorry, there is no reason for anyone to be racially divisive. I am sure that white supremacists have lots of reasons for their beliefs. That does not make them any more acceptable than Obama's divisiveness.

Nope, watch the video. His whole rhetoric is slanted. And no, he's not anti-illegal alien because his wife was one at one point and he hooked her up with a visa. There are also more illegals that come via airports who overstay their visas but all he cares about is building a wall across the southern border. Like I said: "anti-Latin xenophobia."

The fact that this country had an African-American president is what fired up all the racists. Many of them are memers on this site. Trump knew that and tapped into it during his campaign. If there's one thing he knows about, it's manipulating people through propaganda and like he said, he was going to run as a Republican because he knew exactly what to say to get them to vote for him.

I feel sorry for you. You seem to have a bad case of TDS and are ignoring the facts.

The election of President Trump had nothing to do with the race of Obama, it was a result of Democrat policies that did not work and people wanted something different. People wanted jobs, pay raises, and a growing economy. Not more jobs being offshored and more illegal aliens coming in and taking jobs. Things that Trump promised and delivered.

The wall...? That Mexico was going to pay for the wall? More illegals come in through airports and overstay their visas like Melanie did. That's ok, though, because they're not coming from the dirty brown countries to the south. Try to deny the overt racism and xenophobia in Trump's campaigns and you're just another liar. Cheers.

He's probably like most people of color. They see everything through a lens of racism. For instance when they get fired from a job, the first thing that goes through their mind is "was it racist to fire me because I'm a POC." Instead of what should go through their mind "maybe I shouldn't have slacked off at work."

No racism in these comments, not a bit...

It was an example to illustrate how POC's are taught to think.

Nope. I've had PsOC explain their thought processes. It's literally how they ate taught to think by family, friends, and media.

Well done. We have something tangible to debate now.

I don't agree all these examples you've listed are racist, necessarily. Like urging caution in the wake of a shooting. It is better to wait to the facts to come in. Which is what he and we all should have done in all instances of the BLM-related police incidents you mentioned. When all the facts came in, some of those incidents did end up supporting a narrative of racism, or at least gross police misconduct (Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Terence Crutcher, etc.). Others didn't. You only listed some of the ones that didn't. (Caveat: Under the circumstances of Freddie Gray's case, it's hard to swallow that a suspect simply transported in a police van would die after the ride except through officers' own negligence.)

Re: Obama's "Typical white person" comment, you omitted what he went on to say: "The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know there’s a reaction that’s been been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that’s just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it...”

Obama was actually making a nuanced point about "racial animosity" vs. unconscious bias, using the familiar example of his own grandmother. Even if the phrase "typical white person" doesn't sound great out-of-context. I could tell you plenty of similar and even worse stories about things said by my own grandmother and mother, who were born and raised in the South. These attitudes exist and should be talked about.

Obama actually did denounce the Rev. Wright: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24371827/ns/politics-decision_08/t/obama-strongly-denounces-former-pastor/#.XnjgKohKjZs

Bottom-line: I don't view what you've presented as strong enough evidence to conclude Obama's racist.

As far as Trump's own racism/bigotry: I won't bother trying to list it all out and litigate it here, but here is a good article which collects and compiles what he's said and done over several decades.
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

As I stated in the beginning, I don't believe Obama is an overt racist either, I just think he was divisive.

"Obama actually did denounce the Rev. Wright"

In 2008 Obama did denounce Wright, but only after ABC news started an investigation into Wright and made public his views. This was after Wright was appointed by Senator Obama to the African American Religious Leadership Committee in 2007. So the question becomes, did Obama denounce him because he truly disliked his teachings, which Obama was a follower of for years, or because of political heat now that Wright's views were coming out in public?

"Obama was actually making a nuanced point about "racial animosity" vs. unconscious bias, using the familiar example of his own grandmother. Even if the phrase "typical white person" doesn't sound great out-of-context. I could tell you plenty of similar and even worse stories about things said by my own grandmother and mother, who were born and raised in the South. These attitudes exist and should be talked about."

I agree, but I think it also shows Obama's own "unconscious bias", and yes, I have heard worst from my own parents. That was a different time and culture. The U.S. has come a long way from that but we have further to go.

As far as the Vox article, it is pure rubbish and I would hope you know that. It is too long for me to debunk each point, which I believe is easily done. If you would like, I ask you to pick one or two points from the article for discussion.

I know you conservatives don't like Vox, but the article isn't pure rubbish. There are just too many examples here to choose from, but in the interests of answering your question, here are two of the worst ones:

1. "[Trump] argued in 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later called such comments 'the textbook definition of a racist comment.'"

It wasn't just SJWs who took offense to this. No less a figure than Trump-endorsing, national debt-busting former Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan even called these comments "racist." Recall the Trump University lawsuit had nothing to do with Latinos or immigration.

Side-note: Because we're talking about Latinos here (a "nationality" not a race), we could get bogged down in whether these comments are truly "racist," or merely bigoted and/or evidence of national origin discrimination. Either way, not good.

Moving on:

2. "Trump tweeted that several black and brown members of Congress — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) — are 'from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe' and that they should 'go back' to those countries. It’s a common racist trope to say that black and brown people, particularly immigrants, should go back to their countries of origin. Three of four of the members of Congress whom Trump targeted were born in the US."

This one pretty much speaks for itself. Even if it were true these congresswomen were all immigrants -- which 3/4 of them weren't -- telling a brown or black-skinned person to "go back" home is textbook racism. And national origin discrimination.

If we really examined the whole history of Trump's statements and policy actions over the arc of his career and especially as President: I'd conclude Trump is a dyed-in-the-wool, overt national origin/anti-immigrant bigot, and merely a subconscious racist.

"Build that wall." It was one of Trump's biggest campaign planks in 2016, what set him apart from the rest of the GOP field. And he was richly rewarded for it by Republican primary voters.

This case involved an illegal alien who was deported back to Mexico.

Trump wanted the Judge to recuse himself not because he was of Mexican heritage, but because he was a member of La Raza. La Raza is a group of lawyers who are a civil rights advocacy group for Mexican-Americans. So yeah, I think there could be an appearance of bias.

"Trump tweeted that several black and brown members of Congress — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) — are 'from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe' and that they should 'go back' to those countries."

This one I am mixed on. While I think it was a stupid remark and not very presidential, I don't think he was being racist.

You didn't include the rest of the tweet where President Trump said they should try out their crazy ideas on these countries and come back and let us know which ones work. He never mentioned their names or skin color. I think he was more focused on their exhibited hatred of America and their socialist ideas. The fact they happen to be POC I believe was irrelevant in his thinking.

"If we really examined the whole history of Trump's statements and policy actions over the arc of his career and especially as President: I'd conclude Trump is a dyed-in-the-wool, overt national origin/anti-immigrant bigot, and merely a subconscious racist."

I have to totally disagree with this.

Even before becoming President, Trump was doing more for POC and minorities than most. He has received awards and praise from many minority groups and leaders throughout the years. Including praise from Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

He was the first to end the no blacks or jews policy at country clubs in Palm Beach.

He was the first to hire a woman architect to design a skyscraper in NY.

His "second chance" order has done more for the black community and criminal justice reform than any other president.

He is a nationalist, but not anti-immigrant so much as anti-illegal alien. Even Bernie Sanders said that illegal-aliens hurt low paid workers in the U.S. Again, nothing to do with race, but economics.

He was the first to appoint a black person as head of a military branch and appointed the highest-ranked black women in the military ever.

He is the first to have an openly gay person as a member of his cabinet.

He has the highest approval rating among Blacks and Hispanics of any Republican President in the last 50 years.

RE: Your cherry picked tangent on the BLM shootings

Riddle me this, Fake lawyer. Were the police officers that were found guilty in unjustified shootings found guilty of Homicide or Racism?

Why do you liberals scream racism when an officer shoots a POC, And become silent when the video comes out showing the officer was justified?

Why does a police officer have to be a racist when he shoots a POC, Can't he just be a shitty police officer?

I can cite hundreds of false racism claims from 2019.
Liberals, Democrats and the media have turned the word Racism into just that, A Word.

Mike Brown was a justified police homicide. I and many others did not hop on board the bandwagon -- especially once the real story began to emerge. Here's the DOJ report which explains the decision not to prosecute Wilson under federal law.

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

Other police homicides weren't justified, however. And sadly, even a jury verdict of not-guilty doesn't resolve the issue.

Riddle me this: Did OJ Simpson kill Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman?

The jury in his criminal case said not guilty, but the jury in his civil case later said yes. Most Americans would say yes. In fact, most Black Americans these days would also say yes. (See chart)

OJ Simpson is barred from ever being re-tried for murder because of the double jeopardy clause.

However, the stain of his murders will follow him for life. Facts are stubborn things.

The Mike Brown case is irrelevant, Fake lawyer.
It has nothing to do with the questions I asked.

Other police homicides weren't justified, however. And sadly, even a jury verdict of not-guilty doesn't resolve the issue.
What issue? Bad cops or racism. You're interpreting again, Fake lawyer. Your opinion isn't fact.
You're still attempting to deflect to avoid answering the questions I asked

The OJ case is irrelevant, Fake lawyer. He wasn't a police officer, His case has nothing to to with the BLM. The topic of your rambling.
More deflection to avoid answering my questions.

Your chart is as worthless as your fake law license. It has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of my questions you're attempting to avoid answering.

Once again you failed to answer questions a child could answer, Like usual you're attempting to deflect and change the topic to avoid answering.

Now lie and say you answered my questions, Crawl off this Meme, Onto the next Meme that triggers you, And repeat.

Just a reminder of how you started making a fool of yourself. You asked a question you had no right to ask. And being the obnoxious asshole you are, You limped into the discussion with opinions and deflection, Presenting them as facts.
Then proved what a hypocrite you are by refusing to answer questions posed to you.

Oh, you wanted real answers? Forgive me: I thought those questions were rhetorical

Okay, here are your answers to the questions you posed in your reply above:

1. Guilty of homicide or racism:
Why not both? (Bad question on your part: technically, you can’t be “guilty of racism." However, a proven hateful motive can provide a sentencing plus-factor in prosecutions of violent crime.)

2. Why don’t liberals stop screaming when...?

I don’t know, ask them. I’m not a screamer myself. In re: Mike Brown, plenty of pieces in liberal publications have since come out questioning the initial narrative of racism. Obama’s own DOJ declined to prosecute the case, as I cited above. (I like to talk about the Mike Brown case because it was the first media circus of its kind, and the case I’m most acquainted with factually.)

3. Racism or shitty police officer:
Why not both? Some officers are racist, some officers are shitty, and some are both.

Happy now? Of course you’re not :)

Lying again, Saying my questions were rhetorical, After you answered with rambling replies unrelated to the questions you were asked.

1. Guilty of homicide or racism: Why not both.

The officers were charged with homicide, Fake lawyer. They were never charged with racism in a court of law. No officer involved in a BLM case has been charged with a hate crime.

Bad answer on your part. You were trying to interpret the question as multiple choice, It never was.

You don't know.
Yes, You do. You're avoiding answering the question because it destroys your narrative.
Insert rambling about an irrelevant topic and say here's my answer.

3. Racism or shitty police officer: Why not both. You're using opinion as fact again, Fake lawyer, Racism has never been proven as a mitigating factor in unjustified shootings.

You really suck at pretending to be a fake lawyer.

Recap.
Lies/Spin,Deflection, Lies,Deflection.
Pigeon strut.

You couldn't answer a single question with a straight answer, You used the same rambling deflective tactics you constantly rely on to avoid answering questions a child could answer.

And being the arrogant douche bag you are, You pat yourself on the back for avoiding answering, And say I should be happy with your rambling responses.

What you agree or don't disagree on doesn't make Obama any less racist in someone else's opinion. What you think isn't fact. Another prime example of you using your opinion as fact in a debate.

Since when do liberals wait for the facts to come out, Let's say in the wake of a shooting,in all instances of the BLM-related police incidents.When all the facts came in, SOME NOT ALL of those incidents did end up supporting a narrative of racism. SOME supported there was NO RACISM. Then you cherry pick cases to prop up your BS narrative while ignoring the false racism claims. Typical.

Here you go again.Re: Obama's "Typical white person" comment, you omitted what he went on to say: "The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know there’s a reaction that’s been been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that’s just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it...”

You're interpreting what Obama said. That's not how this works, KylieClown. You don't get to decide for others whether Obama is racist based on your biased opinion.

More links to biased sites.

Bottom line. It isn't your place to determine someone else's viewpoint. Your opinion doesn't debunk anything.

The debate is about Obama, Not Trump. So your failed attempt at Whataboutism with your biased List would have been immaterial.
But being the obnoxious asshole you are, You post a link to a biased site anyway.

By my viewpoint your argument presents strong enough evidence to show your a arrogant fool that still thinks your opinion is fact.

Here's a link of what the average SJW like you thinks about Black people. I know you'll ignore it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

Simple question that you neglected to answer in your rambling, passive aggressive response.

Why do you lefties think you're owed an answer, when you never provide any in your rambling replies to conservative Memes.

You added nothing to the debate except a rambling, passive aggressive response.

Why do you think anyone owes you an answer? You're going to use your opinion as fact to argue your point anyway.

Other people are entitled to have their opinion. Just because you're an arrogant douche bag triggered by this Meme doesn't mean you're entitled to question anyone, Especially when you constantly refuse to answer any questions posed to you.

Here's the type of answer you give.“The itsy bitsy spider crawled up the water spout.Down came the rain, and washed the spider out.
Out came the sun, and dried up all the rain,and the itsy bitsy spider went up the spout again”

There, I answered your question, Using your leftist tactics. Now whine and say my answer isn't good enough for you, When you answer the same way and strut around like a pompous fool saying anyone who refuses your rambling answer is just a hater.

Hitting the bottle a little early today?

Throwing your temper tantrum like you do every day.

santa claus here to lecture you on why you should support trump

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The original meme is an unsuccessful flip. We know it's bullshit.

Made this a while back to demonstrate how Democratic leadership is faring in this country.
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Tell that to Paul Ryan.
Lol