Just try to change my mind!

Andrew Jackson will always be my #1 Worst President Ever.

He for sure murdered a guy and is suspected of having killed at least 4 more in duels.

He owned hundreds of slaves.

He committed a genocide so he could commit a crime against humanity. (forced the Cherokee to march west in the Trail of Tears and used their land to make plantations where Africans were enslaved to work).

He suspended habeaus corpus and executed prisoners on a whim during the War of 1812.

His crank monetary policy started the Panic of 1837 which started a recession that lasted for 7 years. He destroyed the National Bank of the United States and requiring all real estate transactions be made in hard coin currency.

He undermined any plans for building a national infrastructure. Things like roads. His actions made the country poorer because businesses couldn't ship good reliable or quickly and made the country harder to defend (armies need well built roads to move quickly).

He massively violated the 1st Amendment. He used his position as President to appoint a Post Master General who ordered the censoring of the US Mail- they stopped abolitionist in the north writing to people in the south by opening the letters, reading them and then destroying any they deemed abolitionist.

Oh, yeah, and he also committed war crimes.

In 1818, ordered two British subjects, Robert Ambrister and Alexander George Arbuthnot, executed during the First Seminole War in Spanish Florida. Ambrister was sentenced to death. Arbuthnot was sentenced to a flogging and hard labor. (they were convicted of being spies but were likely working with the Native Americans to overthrow Spanish rule of Florida).

Jackson increased Arbuthnot's sentence to death and carried out both executions the next day, for and I quote "to avoid any appeals." Legal historians believe that the two men would have been released at the appellate court level, and that Jackson as a former judge would have known that.

He had 6 militia men executed for abandoning their posts in New Orleans- after the battle AND after they'd received word that the war was over. That's right, he had men executed for trying to go home after a war was officially over and he knew that it was officially over.

Jackson was a straight up horror show as a human being and an objectively horrible president.

Thank you. Nice to see someone else sees Jackson as the PoS he really is.

Cant argue with that!

That would... put Trump... at a big #2! Wow...

thank you!

And he didn't. Jackson was into small government and low/no taxes.

He founded the Democrat party, but that changed to the modern Democrat party between 1865, and the 1940's to the way they are today!

He founded the Democrat party, but that changed to the modern Democrat party between 1865, and the 1940's to the way they are today!

Some presidents have been even ruder and more unhinged than Trump, believe it or not. Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson are both contenders for that title. Just seems like whiplash this time, immediately after the calm and collected demeanor of Obama -- and because social media and modern journalism catch just about every Trumpian outburst.

I believe history will judge Trump as a president of much sound and fury, who in the end did not get much done. He passed some tax cuts -- that's been the biggest thing. He's talked a big game on infrastructure that has come to nothing. He tried to ban Muslims from traveling here, and got reversed in the courts. He tried to build a border wall, and ran face-first into political and practical reality. He eased ecological protections, as just about every Republican president does. He has done less than nothing to fight climate change, which means presidential Administrations to come will have to play catch-up.

In the foreign policy realm, he made a diplomatic opening to North Korea which hasn't really accomplished anything tangible. With a huge amount of allied help, he finished the war on ISIS which Obama started. He assassinated a top Iranian general with lasting consequences that are close to impossible to predict. He and his cronies stuck their nose in the mud in both Russia and Ukraine on election-related matters and got indicted and impeached for it.

Bottom-line: Trump is just too undisciplined and unlikable to get much of anything done, and I don't think that really bothers him, honestly. I don't think he actually has many ideas he wants to implement at all. I just think he wants to be president and bask in all the attention that brings. Besides that, the Republican Party at this point is essentially fundamentally opposed to governing.

In our own lifetimes, I would call George W. Bush the worst president. He launched us on a trajectory of costly and unwinnable "forever wars." In particular Iraq, a war of choice that had nothing to do with 9/11 and completely upended the Middle East. Trump hasn't made any blunders quite that bad -- not yet anyway!

Hi pasrtisan prison reform

Remind me, sorry, sluggish this morning.

That's a repeal of the unfair drug sentencing, correct? It's not exactly prison reform, but sentencing reform. Politicians have a nasty habit of calling something not what it is. Or am I confusing that or does the reform do more than what I remember? It's still good and I'm glad Trump supports it. Ideally, I'd like to see a complete overhaul of our prison system. Something similar to Sweden which is more of a college/rehab center. We keep quoting 1984 so I doubt any modern American would support something called "re-education". Heh. I know that's a pipe dream here, because of our education, economy, values, and population but still, I would like steps taken so that that might happen in 50 years.

My bad

Bi

I can't actually say he's the worst President. Not yet. I can certainly say he is the most unpopular. Whether you count national opinion or global opinion. He gives Andrew Johnson a run for his money but he practically worships the guy!

I cannot really judge Andrew Jackson or James Buchanan... I'm not old enough to remember them. Trump is the worst as far as I experienced with my own memory (Although I was already born when Jimmy Carter became president, Reagan is the first I actually can remember). Of course (assuming he'd get a second term) we can only judge properly once that term is over, and the historian's judgment is indeed only given after Trump is no longer president for a reason. If he does something in the second term that is really good (or even more horrible than we've seen so far.. Hey, anything is possible at this point) it must be taken into account. So I agree with "not yet"... ;)

"Trump is the worst as far as I experienced with my own memory."

I have a few more Presidents under my belt and I can certainly agree he's the worst in our lifetime. I'm not sure how much of it is due to exposure. Kennedy might have been an annoying little shit if he had social media.

What I hear about Kennedy is pretty mixed I must say. Some deem him wonderful, others claim that those who think he's wonderful only think that because his assassination shocked the world. Since my parents were still kids when the assassination took place, you can imagine I wasn't there... What I do know is that at least according to some experts I heard, is that Kennedy acted a bit on an impulse when he threatened with the nuclear bomb because of the Cuba crisis, bringing the world in serious danger in the process, but they also said that could have been lack of experience. And they did bring it up, because Trump's administration is also a bit based on many impulses, and some analysts claim that Trump manages to send his tweets at times his advisors can't stop him... Nobody can tell how Kennedy would have been....

Of course, when it comes to the Iran story, he already criticized Obama for the atomic deal before he was elected, and we all knew that canceling the deal would bring destabilization. Not sure if the deal was a good deal, but just canceling a bad deal without considering the consequences is not very smart either, and if this really results into WWIII (I'm not too sure if that will happen now, but hey it is a possible worst case scenario), I deem it likely historians will put all the blame on Trump and not on the Iranian regime, and I wouldn't want to go down into history with that on my name.

Of course when it comes to successes I am also careful. It's not unusual an administration (of any nation) can harvest the fruits of their predecessors, but will claim all honor to themselves. I can't imagine there are no things Trump could get done thanks to Obama's work before him, but I will have to dive deep into matters to find out what is Obama's work and what is not. (And it's also not unusual for an administration to be blamed for the errors of their predecessors, but I am not sure what errors Trump gets blamed for are really Obama's... Trumpies never gave me a good example).

Truth is that social media is a threat to politics world wide including but not limited to the U.S.A. And I guess this shows what happens if anyone can just post everything unchecked, and why there is a limit to the freedom of what you say out the open (nothing new, but now that the limits become clear, people whine about them). That combined with more of Trump's deeds (either good or bad) at least he did (unwittingly) teach us some important lessons, I suppose.

That would go to Woodrow Wilson

lots would probably say Nixon

Nixon was bad for sure but once you learn about Wilson, you see how decisions made by him snowball into the policies the US carries to this day, especially concerning Vietnam and the Middle East. This AlternateHistoryHub video gives a pretty good summary of that snowball effect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiI6kXZkZI

Nixon actually did some good stuff -- ended the Vietnam War, pulled off the diplomatic opening to China that boxed in the USSR, the Clean Water Act -- and probably would have gone down as a decent president if not for the egomania and paranoia that proved to be his undoing in Watergate.

Nixon is perhaps the last Republican president actually interested in truly governing, with the possible exception of George H.W. Bush. The rest from Reagan onward have worshiped tax cuts (without corresponding reductions in spending), big overseas military adventures, blaming the poor and minorities for their woes, and otherwise doing a whole lot of nothing domestically.

there is a part of kissingers memoirs where he recalls when Nixon had the white house barricaded with school buses to keep the thousands of protestors at bay,and Nixon was terrified that the people were going to storm the white house.

Kissinger quoted Nixon as saying "they are going to come for me henry" wringing his hands in fear.

we need more of that.
not what we have today.
an entire population transifixed by digital hallucinations.
that somehow clicking "like" is active participancy.
or putting someone on "ignore" is some political stance.

sighs...I am going to go drink myself to oblivion......

Nixon would have probably been impeached if it wasn't for his retirement!

How was Woodrow Wilson a hero of the left considering he’s one of the Presidents less people even heard of?

Try answering how he’s a leftist hero

the battle goes on ( :

BTW trump is doing a whole lot more good than bad. he is rude... but he is doing good for our country thats what i care about.

Wrong. James Buchanan would be

not only too young, but I was born late into Clinton's presidency time!

That explains a lot

Nah. Obama was worse

how?