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A somber lesson for all of us. | I HAD AN UNCOMFORTABLE EXPERIENCE TODAY ON IMGFLIP. I RAN ACROSS ANOTHER ANTI-TRUMP LIBERAL WHO WAS GLEEFULLY POSTING AND REPOSTING THIS DISTURBING IMAGE OF A TRUMP SUPPORTER BEATEN UP AT A RALLY:; WE MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER: WEARING THIS HAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM ANY LESS HUMAN. NOBODY DESERVES TO BE TREATED THIS WAY, EVER. INSTEAD OF BEATING HIM UP, WE NEED TO REASON WITH HIM AND TRY TO PERSUADE. AND, IF WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL: AT LEAST HOPE THAT WE LEFT A POSITIVE IMPRESSION. WE ARE ALL FOCUSED ON BEATING TRUMP RIGHT NOW. BUT: BEATING TRUMP WILL GAIN US NOTHING IF WE LOSE OUR OWN SOULS IN THE PROCESS. IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE GLEE IN OUR OPPONENTS’ INJURIES, THEN WE NEITHER DESERVE TO WIN, NOR TO GOVERN. LET’S NEVER FORGET: THE GREATEST PRIZE OF ALL IS TO RESTORE DECENCY TO OUR POLITICS. MAY WE WORK TOWARD THAT GOAL, TOGETHER, AND STRIVE TO BE WORTHY OF THE CONFIDENCE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. | image tagged in american flag,violence,respect,america,we don't do that here,disrespect | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
541 views 27 upvotes Made by KylieFan_89 5 years ago in politicsTOO
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6 ups, 5y,
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3 ups, 5y
Too bad they no longer show down voted
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4 ups, 5y,
1 reply
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It is a shame how divided the country has gotten lately that more people actually glorify political violence. I strongly disagree with the vast majority of what gets posted here on politicsTOO, but I and the vast majority of the other conservative types on Imgflip would never wish harm upon any of you and I hope you show us the same courtesy. Stuff like this does make me wonder what’s in store for the future, especially with the talk that a new civil war will break out.

Either way you look at it, I think our news media is to blame. Whether you’re a lefty ragging on Fox News or a conservative ragging on CNN, the fact is that it creates a bubble. Leftists tend to get their news from leftist sources and conservatives get theirs from conservative outlets. One glaring example of this is the Gordon Sondland inquiry. CNN reported quid pro quo was confirmed while Fox reported quid pro pro was debunked. We argued over which story is true, but the fact remains there are two different contradictory stories. Which one is closer to the truth? Both sides put their own spin on it so by the time you get it you could be getting news or you’re probably getting propaganda.

We probably don’t agree on a lot as far as politics goes but I feel like we could probably have a beer, talk out our differences, and try to understand each other. If more people can do that, I think we have a shot at easing our political divide. However I don’t really see the effort from either side to come to the table and talk.
1 up, 5y
Thanks dude.

Yeah, I agree we're more polarized at this moment than we've ever been before in our history, the Civil War excepted. I don't think that's going to happen this time -- back then, slavery was a whole economic system on which a huge part of the country "depended," or thought it depended. This time around, there is nothing really at stake other than people's cultural feelings.

All the media outlets compete for views and attention by hyping everything up. So do the memes here, by the way -- the ones that get the most upvotes are typically the ones that activate our reptile brains the most. I'm happy to see that this more solemn and wordy one rose to the top of PoliticsTOO.

We need to find a way to tone it down somehow, and the only way to do that is by talking it out with each other, as Americans. Whatever happens with this impeachment, or the next election: Our country depends on it.

As Ben Franklin said: "A Republic, if you can keep it."
2 ups, 5y
thanks for making this
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Holy shit, you are a non partisan scold.

Have an upvote. First one I ever gave to a lefty in this cesspit stream.
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Cesspit stream? Nah. Plenty of good content here to peruse if you took your own partisan blinders off.
4 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Uhhhhh, no. Even the politics stream is better for lefty memes. My humor has no partisanship. I might come here if I get interested in humorless screeds tho :)
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
If you think the shit that’s posted in politics stream is humorous then you have a pretty bloodthirsty sense of humor my friend

Last night in politics stream, I saw a baby Yoda holding a cup of “peach-mint” tea that made me smile. That’s about it as far as genuine humor

Other than that the attempts at “humor” amount to 99% pointless body-shaming of Democrats
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
My humor is pretty extreme. Happens when boundaries are pushed for decades.

Sometimes the comments are funnier than the memes.
1 up, 5y,
3 replies
And some of the Bill Clinton memes are still funny, I’ll hand it to them.

But Jesus, the guy hasn’t held office for 20 years. I haven’t seen a single GWB meme here

HRC’s political career is dead too though you’d never know it by browsing “politics.” Find some new material guys!

The Biden memes admittedly are funny and relevant. Biden is cringe. But I don’t think he’s gonna win and then you guys will he sticks
1 up, 5y
Be stuck*
1 up, 5y
To be fair, bl***obs are a gold mine of comedy.
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0 ups, 5y
Memes on these sites usually reflect the cultural conversation at large. If George isn't in a meme, it's because no one cares and isn't talking about him. I turn on FB and Hillary is there every day, so she is still relevant as long as she's in the public eye. Provocative memes get to the front page (unless it's PoliticsTOO, which is just a small group of individuals with an ax to grind) and boring ones stay in oblivion...where they belong.
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0 ups, 5y
0 ups, 5y
I've ran into people posting that image as a threat against me for disagreeing with them stating that I was asking for it and the MAGA hat guy was at fault for being assaulted by the intolerant.
0 ups, 5y
Sickening.... Absolutely Sickening
2 ups, 5y,
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Not saying he did anything wrong but maybe he had it coming. Maybe he threatened someone. Maybe he started a fight. Wearing a MAGA also doesn’t make you immune to retribution. Maybe he’s an a$$hole with or without the hat on.
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
We can speculate all day about what happened. I don’t know the story myself. But bottom-line is we shouldn’t be celebrating political violence. Even if he was an asshole in some way.
1 up, 5y,
1 reply
He wasn't at a rally, if I recall he was a shop owner I think and the story is something like a dozen youths attacked him. But it is easily found by searching the image.
1 up, 5y,
2 replies
Well then that’s even worse, sounds like he wasn’t even engaging in a rally (where things sometimes get rowdy, and the fog of war can make it difficult to determine who was in the wrong when punches break out), but literally just wearing the hat.
4 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Not the 1st time that's happened, won't be the last.
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Read what I just posted (SPOILER ALERT: Shades of Jussie Smollett)
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Interesting.
0 ups, 5y
I watch mainly local news because hearing the drones droning incessantly about the same Trump item of the day gets tiresome after 5 minutes. Again, not that I've caught it all, but it was odd that I hadn't seen this story when they repeat others attacks. Problem with local news is the large focus on crimes, so that can get uncomfortable too.
2 ups, 5y
You should look up the story as I did when I first saw it here.

A few interesting facts at that time (subject to readjustments by any later findings):

1. The roving gang of 13 youths was not spotted by camera, person, or anything anytime or anywhere remotely in the vicinity of the alleged occurrence.

2. There were no witnesses.

3. This alleged gang did surprisingly little damage for such a large group beating him as he described and as any such large group would typically do.

4. Indications were that he seems to maybe have purchased the hat the day AFTER the attack.

5. There was a strong possibility that it was his own friend that hit him on account of a dispute they were having.

Now things were still up in the air at the point I read it.
The angle the police were investigating was not typical of the type of reported crime.
I had not heard this on local news. Doesn't mean it wasnt reported, as there were articles, but whether here in NYC or on imgflip, the story went MIA. Given how this Alt Right goose stepping gaggle here are fixated on all things in the Big Bad Apple, that itself is rather telling.

Nevertheless, looking at him injured like that is rather difficult, and exploiting it for cheap political statements is unsavory. I had pointed that out months ago to one who was doing exactly that.
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Well said... but violence begets violence...

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbmqg8/watch-this-trump-supporter-get-arrested-for-beating-up-a-61-year-old-man
3 ups, 5y,
2 replies
Not saying the other side is innocent, at all. I do believe Trump's careless language and policies are begetting more politically-motivated violence. He even called on his supporters to beat people up and he would pay their legal fees.

That's part of why beating Trump is so important. But: in the process we can't let ourselves become the thing we sought to destroy.
3 ups, 5y
Wow, these leftists are pretty big into violence, huh?
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Its been 3 years, and 30% still have not figured it out. Sometimes it takes a back fire to put out the main one. I have been a supporter of non violent resistance pretty much all my long life. trump and his nazi like cult have started to change my stance on it.
5 ups, 5y,
2 replies
If it really gets as bad as Nazism in this country, then yes, it's time to fight back. Heck, that has been the stance of 2nd Amendment enthusiasts and militia groups since before Trump. So they can't exactly object if Leftists were to start stockpiling weaponry.

However, I don't think we're there yet. And with content like this, I'm trying my best to make sure we never do.
0 ups, 5y
You know who else didn't think they were there yet? Germans the day after the war ended. Number of Nazis found? Zero, according to each and every single one.
2 ups, 5y
3 ups, 5y,
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https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/owner-nyc-art-gallery-billionaires-row-claims-group-attack-maga-hat/1497033/

You know I hear what you are saying. But I really see this as the rise of nazism again... imagine how different the world would be if they started beating the f**ks up in the 1920's instead of letting it grow.
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Yeah, the German people ignored a whole lot of warning signs as Hitler consolidated power. There are some parallels to today. It is tough.

But: I believe American democratic traditions and civil society are far stronger and more resilient than Germany in the 1920's and '30's. We have the world's oldest Constitution, and the Rightists revere it, even if they do not fully understand it. At least they understand the very basic, cut-and-dry provisions like the 22nd Amendment's two-term presidential limit.

Trump admires the world's dictators and strongmen and may personally desperately want to serve 3 terms and beyond, but he's just not talented, charismatic, or popular enough as a leader to break all these norms he would have to break to do that. The "deep state" (really, just the state) will stop that.
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
One more nazi rally where they run people over or march with torches chanting nazi slogans again though..
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
I was deeply troubled by Charlottesville. What happened there was horrible, but: the huge amount of negative media coverage it generated, the conviction of that murderer, and the fact we haven't seen anything quite like Charlottesville again are actually good reasons to be hopeful. I even believe some people were fired from their jobs when their faces were exposed for attending that rally.

This incredible pushback from good Americans helped ensure these neo-Nazi racists have been mostly driven back underground into the toxic Stormfront and 8Chan forums from which they emerged.

The next big test, I think, will come whenever Trump leaves office, willingly or not. The peaceful transfer of power is always a test for democracies and the democratic way depends upon the consent of the losers.

0 ups, 5y
In the 2nd unite the right rally the alt right basically didn't show up bu antifa did. The alt-left then led the violence against police and journalists. https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/8/12/17681986/antifa-leftist-violence-clashes-protests-charlottesville-dc-unite-the-right

The alt-left types are also dangerous and more numinous that the alt-right types, but the alt-right is more likely to be lethal when they use violence.
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