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an inconvenient truth | SLAVE OWNERS AND CONFEDERATES WERE OVERWHELMINGLY MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY; TODAY, DEMOCRATS CONTINUALLY TRY TO REMOVE ALL VESTIGES OF CONFEDERATE HISTORY FROM OUR COUNTRY; INCONVENIENT TRUTH? | image tagged in confederate statue,erasing history,democrats are actually the racists | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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5 ups, 5y,
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"Democrats are the real racists! The party supported the Confederacy like 160 years ago... don't ya know!" | IMMA MAKE THIS REAL EASY FOR YOU F**K THE CONFEDERACY AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR. SIGNED, A WHITE BOY FROM THE SOUTH. NOT MY HERITAGE. THIS  | image tagged in american flag,burning confederate flag,democrats,civil war,confederacy,racists | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1 up, 5y
...you're a communist | NICE TRY, COMMIE | image tagged in you're a communist | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
4 ups, 5y,
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Condescending Spock | BUT FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIZERS HAVE VOTED ONLY REPUBLICAN. INCONVENIENT FOR YOU. AND PATHETIC. | image tagged in condescending spock | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
7 ups, 5y,
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As usual, you go way over the edge in stating your opinion as fact.

I don't particularly like republicans any more than I like democrats, but the claim that "Confederate sympathizers have voted only republican" for the last fifty years is so pathetically biased, and impossible to prove, that it's laughable.

Don't you realize when you say things like that, when you state an obvious opinion as fact, that it makes those who might otherwise agree with you, question your aptitude for politics?
4 ups, 5y
are you trying to make the argument that white nationalists,rightwing,alt-righties,neo-nazis have voted democratic since the FDR days? and then claim that it cannot be proven? and chastise an imgflipper for stating opinion as fact by stating YOUR opinion as fact?

jesus f**king Christ on a stick....

you are such a confusing character.
you reveal a tendency to engage as a human,and then you will zip off into partisan hackeyland and shatter that illusion.

is it an act? a character you play on imgflip?
because sometimes you are a joy to engage with,even if we disagree,and then others you just POOF..become a jim Henson creation.

so frustrating at times.i am pretty sure there is a real human boy underneath all that layered partisanship.would like to see more him and not this …./makes circles with hands...whatever this is.
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3 ups, 5y
"“I think I can take every Mexican in the state and every n***er in the state.” ~ President Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)
2 ups, 5y
Hint: He's big, dumb, white and has a really bad hairdo.
1 up, 5y
The south didn't consistently vote republican until the 90s actually. Your grasp of political history is astonishingly bad.
2 ups, 5y
3 ups, 5y,
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For a group of people who wear "facts over emotion" like a badge of honor, y'all don't pay much attention to facts and tend to get super emotional when you're confronted with them.

Fact: No Democrats deny that, until the mid-20th century, their party was largely the party of white supremacist groups, the Confederacy, Jim Crow, and segregation. It's a terrible part of our past, and we are in no way proud of it.

Fact: Southern Democrats, in particular, were the drivers of this despicable aspect of the Democratic Party's history.

Fact: Southern Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act, Strom Thurmond chief among them, defected to the Republican Party beginning in the 1960s in the name of "states' rights."

Fact: The Republican Party has a platform that is attractive to white supremacist groups in pursuit of their goals. Support of states' rights over Federal control has many benefits, most of which are not racist in any way; however, if you ARE a racist, you know that you've got a better chance of reinstating Jim Crow on the state level in Alabama than you do on the Federal level. Strict immigration policy isn't inherently racist, but is incredibly attractive to someone who dislikes people who are brown crossing the southern border.

Fact: The Democratic Party, conversely, has a platform that is massively unattractive to white supremacist groups.

Republican does not equal white supremacist. On the other hand, white supremacist currently equals Republican. And the Confederacy was racist AF, at its very core - why would anyone want to glorify it?
1 up, 5y,
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1 up, 5y,
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Of the things I've labeled as facts, which is incorrect?
1 up, 5y,
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Are you telling me that having 79% of planned parenthood locations within walking distance of black neighborhoods and the fact that black women of child rearing age which make up about 5% of our total population account for 37% of abortions, and 51% of African American pregnancies being terminated before birth is unattractive to white supremacists?
0 ups, 5y
The Democratic platform does not promote access to safe reproductive health care for African Americans - it promotes access to safe and affordable reproductive health care for Americans.

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/ensure-the-health-and-safety-of-all-americans/

It also promotes the end of systemic racism and closing the racial wage gap, which would create financially stable African American families and in turn make it easier for them to choose parenthood.

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/bring-americans-together-and-remove-barriers-to-opportunities/

We can talk plenty about whether these ideals are right, actionable, or attainable, but they are not ideals that white supremacists share.

So which of the other facts I've presented do you feel are incorrect?
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Your (the democrats, not you personally) actions are so loud that I can't hear what you are saying.

There are facts and then there are true facts.

True Fact: I'm an independent voter who did not vote for Trump or George W.

True Fact: The south didn't begin voting reliably Republican until 1993, and it wasn't over Civil Rights, it was specifically over the Crime Bill which included the Assault Weapons Ban. In a press conference after losing Congress, Bill Clinton honored all those brave senators and congressmen who gave up their seats to pass that legislation. I saw the press conference. The Nixon Southern Strategy is a myth. Nixon may have wanted the south but he didn't get it, at least as far as congress was concerned. Democrats keep referencing the southern strategy as a talking point, but if it even existed it was a failure. Turns out, Southerners are more about the constitution than they are about racism. You can look this stuff up, I did.

True Fact: The Democrats fought against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 but had embraced a corrupted Civil Rights movement by 1967. The Housing Act of 1967 attracted Blacks to northern cities where there were supposed to be jobs and segregated them into Housing Projects where they have been perpetually poor. Weren't Jim Crow laws meant to segregate Blacks from Whites? Just curious. The Housing Act of 1967 was just a Jim Crow law with lipstick. Prior to the coopting of the Civil Rights movement by Democrats, Blacks were entering the middle class at a higher rate than Whites. Prior to the coopting of the Civil Rights movement by Democrats, 80% of Black Children lived in homes with two parents, now only 12% of Black children live in homes with two parents. Prior to the coopting of the Civil Rights movement by Democrats, two or three Black men were lynched by Southern Democrats every year. Today 6000 young Black men murder each other in cities historically run by Democrats. That wasn't happening when Blacks voted for Republicans.

True Fact: Obama deported more people than Trump has in the same amount of time. There were more illegal aliens in cages at the border during the Obama years than there have ever been during the Trump years. In fact it was during the Obama years that the cages were introduced. Obama and Bill Clinton both advocated for a border wall. I have seen them do it. It doesn't become racist when Orange Man says it especially when the Democrats have advocated it for so long.
0 ups, 5y
First: We're talking about parties, not presidents. For all the "[insert president] is the head of his party" that's thrown around, it's not actually true. They merely have influence.

Second: If something is untrue, then it is, by definition, not a fact.

True Fact #1: I don't know you, so it's entirely possible that I mentally categorized you incorrectly; however, I didn't comment at all about your affiliation. I categorized the anonymous poster (which appears to have been you) as "conservative," which doesn't necessarily mean Republican.

True Fact #2: If you're trying to make the case that the Republican platform isn't attractive to white supremacists, saying the South turned Republican over the 2nd Amendment doesn't help you. Also I said the switch started with the Civil Rights Act, not that it was complete with it. The defections were all in the name of states' rights, which is attractive to white supremacists.

Sidebar: The Southern Strategy is not a myth. It was an eventual success, but certainly not on the timeline Nixon preferred.

True Fact #3: You're ignoring an incredibly wide variety of other factors that make these statistics true.

True Fact #4: You're talking about policies, not platforms. The Democratic platform has never featured a wall as far as I know, and certainly doesn't currently. Nor does it advocate for open borders.
0 ups, 5y
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SLAVE OWNERS AND CONFEDERATES WERE OVERWHELMINGLY MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY; TODAY, DEMOCRATS CONTINUALLY TRY TO REMOVE ALL VESTIGES OF CONFEDERATE HISTORY FROM OUR COUNTRY; INCONVENIENT TRUTH?