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Move Along | THESE AREN'T THE FACTS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR | image tagged in move along | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Roll Safe Think About It Meme | IT'S NOT A MASS SHOOTING IF NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE DIED | image tagged in memes,roll safe think about it | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 5y
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or when they do it
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2 ups, 5y
Usually, but not always;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
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2 ups, 5y
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It looks like a picture of a conservative pretending not to see the low number of gun deaths in other modern countries with better gun control.
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1 up, 5y,
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I'm new to the politics stream. I just came up with a funny liberal-bashing meme to get upvotes. LOL
1 up, 5y
well you've groked the politics stream pretty quickly I'd say. :)
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6 ups, 5y,
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If that's even remotely true, imagine how many more might have been stopped if more civilians had guns.
0 ups, 5y,
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"Mass shooting" defined as a shooting where 4 or more people got shot. I looked at the breakdown a little bit though and at least one of the descriptions included the shooter. Idk if more guns are the answer or not but this sh*t is definitely out of control..
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Yeah, I looked it up too, and there were many that fit that /technical/ definition of "mass shooting", but didn't fit the /colloquial/ definition of "mass shooting".

When you say mass shooting, the image it brings to mind for most people is a lone gunman/woman, or possibly two people, getting loaded up on guns and ammo, going into a crowded area full of innocent bystanders, and opening fire on any targets that catch their eye.

What most people /don't/ think of when they hear mass shooting are mothers who kill all their children and then commit, or attempt to commit, suicide. They also don't tend to think of gangland drivebys, and they especially don't think of criminals having shootouts with cops as "mass shootings".

Hell, at least one that was counted as a mass shooting could more technically be called a killing spree, as the guy changed locations between each death.

For that matter, it doesn't occur to most people that a mass shooting can occur without anybody dying.

It's all about the framing language used. People like to claim that 330 mass shootings makes the US the worst country for that stuff, but while it is a large number of shootings, the US is far from the worst on a /per capita/ basis. In fact, the US actually ranks number 66 on the list of countries that have had mass shootings on a per capita basis.

Norway, that bastion of progressiveness and equality that lefties love to point to, actually has the highest per capita mass shooting rate, more than double that of the US. Meaning that if Norway had the same population as America, their overall number of mass shootings would be in the ballpark of 700+.

And I don't deny that focusing on per capita is using framing just as much as focusing on overall numbers, and on language used (like calling a murder-suicide a mass shooting). That's the point, things are framed to fit the desired narrative, especially these days.
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3 ups, 5y,
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You must be fairly new to the politics section, that was fairly restrained ;-)
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The idea that Norway has more killings per capita, or that some of the shootings here are actually gang affiliated, or that sometimes nobody dies from their wounds, or that sometimes they're just shootouts with police, or that sometimes they are suicide/family executions, or that sometimes after the shooter kills 4 people a civilian takes him down.... is still of little comfort. I mean I don't want to live in a bubble but I also don't want to live in a warzone.
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Well, the biggest "warzones" in the US have the /strongest/ gun control laws, so you'd probably feel safer somewhere with more legally owned guns, like Texas.
0 ups, 5y,
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I tried to google if there are less shootings in Texas and this happened....
:o
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Well yeah, less doesn't mean none. But as far as I know, there have been less mass shootings in the whole state of Texas than there have been in the /city/ of Chicago, which has like the strongest gun control laws in the country.
0 ups, 5y
Ok but dude.. an 8 person shooting.. followed by another shooting at the vigil for the victims of the first shooting. And that was just 2 days ago.....Sh*t is crazy.
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"Ok but dude.. an 8 person shooting.. followed by another shooting at the vigil for the victims of the first shooting. And that was just 2 days ago.....Sh*t is crazy."

Point still being it's much less likely to happen in a gun-happy state than it is in a liberal gun control state.
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Did a little digging.. according to a couple different websites Chicago, Illinois actually does not have the strictest gun laws.. one website didn't even have em in the top 10.

2016 Texas actually had a higher number gun related deaths per capita than Illinois if you include suicide.. Alaska had the highest of all.
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Simple. Provide examples of this ever happening.
7 ups, 5y
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/

Just a few examples there. And surely you won't argue with that, since it's from your precious WaPo.
2 ups, 5y
Lol I guess JakkFrost's comment is more on point.
7 ups, 5y
In a way you're right. If a mass shooting gets stopped by an armed civilian, which has happened numerous times, then technically there was no mass shooting.
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No...it's the person behind the gun, f**ktits. Guns don't fire themselves, you ignorant piece of leftist trash.
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Correction I am not a leftist or a liberal but at least I am smart enough to know that easy access to guns and 100s of millions in circulation leads to mass deaths in America. Some Americans want guns to be freely available in all sorts of types and are willing to accept dead kids on a regular basis for that right. That's the mark of an uncivilised society.
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