Can't Make This Shit Up!

The transcript does not say what the media is reporting that it does. I suspect that he will be impeached, but not removed from office. I think the Democrats are trying to paint Trump as a rich white guy who always gets away with things, to prompt the voters to vote for their eventual candidate.

Unless there is evidence (*not testimony*) other than the released transcript, there is no evidence of a crime by Trump. There's not even a quid pro quo. Even if there was, that's not illegal. Biden used the same tactic, the only question is what his motive was, which can't be directly proven.

This is all about optics.

excellent breakdown!
I pray that their scheming will backfire.
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Do you think 3/4th of the senate will impeach over bs?

I doubt it.

However, if the Republicans can't counter this narrative, the Dems may not need him to be removed. Some Americans are politically sophisticated and can see nuance and strategy.

Most aren't.

wow that has more than 6.000 views!
did you link it on facebook or reddit?
good one- upvoted.

Not those sites. But did post the JPG image on a couple other sites.

Keep up the crime fighting Trump, not like you have anything better to do, I mean other than your full time job tweeting

3 yrs of this idiot tactic....grab em by the pussy...Russia.........grab em by the pussy...Russia.........grab em by the pussy...Russia.........grab em by the pussy...Russia.........grab em by the pussy...Russia.........grab em by the pussy...Russia.....
both the Dimowits did....a lot

this is not an either/or
both actions are a sign of corruption.

I get where you are going with this,but it is getting bogged down with the premise that what trump was doing was somehow for the greater good.it wasn't.it was for his own personal gain.which is why Pelosi has a case.(I think it is politically stupid,but who am I?).

here is one for ya:
Pelosi:we will not,nor ever,impeach president trump.it is off the table!

2 yrs later...

Pelosi:you tried to expose the corruption of one our club members??
impeach that mofo!

and watching the media on both sides twist themselves into some circular logic pretzel is hi-larious.

So just out of curiosity, would it have been better for him to not shine a light on the crime simply because he benefits from its exposure? If a local sheriff knows that he's likely to get re-elected and maybe end up in the paper for solving a prominent local murder case, is it corruption for him to solve the case since he's more motivated to do it for personal gain? Since when does gaining something when doing something that should be morally correct make it a bad deed? As I see it, regardless of the motive behind it a good deed is still a good deed. Shallow? Sure. Corrupt? I don't think so. If a law was broken then there's an issue, but it isn't currently clear that that is the case here.

in my opinion,your comment exemplifies the majority of American opinion.

you analogy is not a very good one,because it implies noble intent.
a better analogy would be if the sheriff was up for re-election and reached out to the local drug dealer to dig up dirt on his opponent,because he knows his opponent has a thing for cocaine and hookers.

is it your contention that this sheriff did this for his county?
to reveal the debased habits of his opponent,to spare his neighbors the possible horror of having a cokehead for a sheriff?

or is it more likely the motivation was purely for selfish and self-serving needs?

another thing your comment reveals,and I find it troubling,but kind of understandable,is how desensitized we have become to corruption,obstruction and over-reach.
we all KNOW our politicians are corrupt,but then people engage in "degrees" of corruption.usually along party lines.

but it is still corruption.

a few points to consider:
1.pelosi has a case.article 68 of the federalist papers lays out the legalities.
2.quid pro quo is a secondary issue
3.impeachment is a political proceeding,not a legal one.
4.it will most likely fail.*
5.giving fuel for trumps campaign.*
6.biden is done*
7.trump wins 2020*

*my opinion.things are still unfolding,and could change,but as of right now? that's my take.

another point I would like to make.i find it curious that Pelosi refused to impeach trump,even when there was precedent,but that changed when trump exposed the biden corruption.
I call it the "Bernie Madoff syndrome".
you can lie,cheat and steal as much as you like,but the second you go after the elite class?
we will take you down.

liars and cheats and thieves...

oh my

I was under the impression federalist 68 was actually about the electoral college. And you're right, your analogy is a better one, though I was not contending that the sheriff was doing things for the good of his county - I clearly stated his motivation was re-election and good publicity. As far as the take, we'll just have to wait and see.. I decided a long time ago that even what seems like the most accurate prediction about our politics could easily end up turned on its head. Stuff gets crazy, sometimes.

and your probably right about the specific article,i am pulling from memory 3 decades ago.
it's alexander hamiltons argument about the president abusing his station to benefit him politically.

every politician does it,and I don't think anyone is surprised,but there is precedent.