Promptly

President Trump speaks TRUTH! Dems think that the truth is racist and sexist.

If President Trump speaks the "truth", and dems think that his "truth" is racist and sexist, then that means that Trump is racist and sexist. (Which, by his own admission, he is...)

Racist and sexist? Oh right, because Progressive is a race and congresswoman is a gender. Gotcha 😁

Dude, am I wrong or is that the cringiest thing I've ever seen? Cuz his side 'thinks'? Thinks = Facts?

BWHAHAHAHA

Wow. That's AMAZIN'

Annnnnd Trump just solidified his 2020 Victory. Well played sir. The Patriots ate it up.

muslim shit holes #nsfw

Maybe back then... But defiently not today.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/isis-slavery-and-islamic-abolitionism_b_8050606?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaHVmZnBvc3QuY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMQODg76MCHpWAHb02Y82RHMNRzsTlTdoOkA-rz4ZyizIv-GFDdkYs4Qo5nq_gRSmlIWXfUdrcQs38p9bL3fq0aTc6hfrjZ2O0Frkl_agElIwOFPLkzIk4r-fSyF0ava5B0TYFyDBAxLLFYOKJZTzPONutzJVOFTXD_RnS4mZYxt

I find this article sums everything up nicely

Huffington post.

You do realize there are open slave markets in Libya, right?

Colonel Clink's world...."Cliiink...you are an idiot"...When everyone was mocking Ocatavia Melody....they should have included this lib troll shill
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Yes, but Islam as a religion no longer tolerates Slavery. Doesn't mean no one is doing that. Just that officially its not allowed.

Are you Islamic by any chance? You will literally jump through any amount of hoops and do the most impressive mental gymnastics to try to defend them.. more than I've seen you try to do to defend any other group on the planet. Curious as to why.

Well my Mother is. And my Father is Christian, just an FYI. I myself am, well confused would be the right word ;D

Ahhh.

Oh, and ISIL's 10s of 1000s of rape slaves.

Well, it may be official policy. I don't know if there is one group that speaks for all Muslims.

haha, that's the thing, there isn't.

Sure, like Shiites in Iran have their Ayatollah heirarchy and Sunni has grand muftis yadaa yadda, but Islam is not supposed to have any centralized body, etc, so the only thing keeping them in line is their allowance from the Great Satan and publicity. Islam is all about image, how they're viewed by others, the external. That's why shame is so big with them. Pride is secondary to that, and superficial (again, image). What they do in private, well, what you don't know won't hurt them.

Gosh, that last line. I crack myself up at times.

I actually don't think there is a global Islamic Organisation that represents Muslim. Usually when I talk about international Islamic Positions I talk about how Islamic Scholars do so and so

They just sell slaves then, but don't keep them?

Other than the occasional case in Saudi Arabia and even the US where people have been busted for keeping foreigners as domestic without pay and without freedom to leave the home?

The only thing preventing Moslems from keeping slaves is the rest of the world, not the religion itself.

"They just sell slaves then, but don't keep them?"

No. Slavery in and of itself is not condoned. That means the selling, buying, or keeping of slaves. And I see you mentioned ISIS as an example, well I'll be happy to inform you that a few hundred Islamic Scholars have signed an open letter denying ISIS' interpretation of the Religion

"The only thing preventing Moslems from keeping slaves is the rest of the world, not the religion itself."

Of course it is. Damn Muslims!

So they're NOT selling Africans in Libya?

And this letter by these scholars suddenly made the TENS OF THOUSANDS of ISIL rape slaves no longer a thing?

Isn't it the Islamic excuse that their religion is 600 years behind Christianity, so that's why they are lagging behind the entire planet in the modern civilization department?
Although in all fairness, keeping slaves requires having money and need. Not much money and need to have slaves to herd goats in dry hills stripped bare thousands of years ago.

"So they're NOT selling Africans in Libya?"

Again: Slavery as an institution is condemned by the Religion. That stops no one from doing it.

"And this letter by these scholars suddenly made the TENS OF THOUSANDS of ISIL **pe slaves no longer a thing?"

No. Of course not, but they wanted to show, rightfully so, that a vast majority of modern Muslims do not support Slavery in any shape or form

"Isn't it the Islamic excuse that their religion is 600 years behind Christianity, so that's why they are lagging behind the entire planet in the modern civilization department?"

No its not

"Although in all fairness, keeping slaves requires having money and need. Not much money and need to have slaves to herd goats in dry hills stripped bare thousands of years ago."

True

Where does Islam condemn slavery? The koran says it's ok as long as they're 'infidels'

" "And this letter by these scholars suddenly made the TENS OF THOUSANDS of ISIL **pe slaves no longer a thing?"

No. Of course not, but they wanted to show, rightfully so, that a vast majority of modern Muslims do not support Slavery in any shape or form"

That's like saying AOC yapping whatever about Trump somehow evaporated what he has said or done. Despite her fake tears for the empty parking lot on the other side of the fence, those kids are still caged up.

The "but Christianity is 600 years older, we're still in the Dark Ages, only with PCs and SUVs" isn't their go-to excuse?

🔘 Come on, face it, History 101:

💢 WWII ended.
💢 America started babysitting everyone
💢 Marshall Plan
💢 VOA
💢 Infrastructure building
💢 Green revolution
💢 Free or cheap food for all, especially our enemies
💢 Some American thing called "Constitutions" and "rule of law"
💢 Parliaments
💢 Kings & Queens became just cute faces on coins and stamps
💢 Modern technology
💢 Movies
💢 Le Roque and le Rolle
💢 The concept of 'Cool'
💢 Everyone learns American English

And voila! We have recreated the entire Planet on the image of

tada!

🎆 America! 🎆

Again, all fair points, but modern day intellectuals have found a way to justify Emancipation and most people agree that the interpretations where Islam allows Slavery is medieval at best. And yes, I also like to point out and criticizes Muhammad for owning slaves, on this point I have to agree. But then again, We (That is Christians) aren't any better when we look at our History, tho one has to admit we pulled our shit together before the Muslims did. I think the The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam in 1990 is the most recent.

Again, modern whatevers that no one else has heard of other than their own self adulating circle can not and have not changed Islamic slave practices from Muhammad, his koran, ISIL, Saudis, and all in between.

You know why throughout Asia and Africa Moslems are generally found along trade routes and ports of call? Arabic traders would kidnap some locals after the boat was loaded and they were about to leave. Word got around that being a Moslem was a way to avoid this, so people converted for their own protection.
Yes, fear of the actual practice of acquiring slaves helped spread Islam far beyond its immediate sphere of outright conquest.
Nice, huh?

"Where does Islam condemn slavery? The koran says it's ok as long as they're 'infidels'"

Where does the New or Old Testament forbid slavery? May I remind you that all major religions at one point or another condoned Slavery. It is also true, however, that the Quran established an entirely new ethic on the issue of slavery and ISIS’s selective use of certain Quranic texts to justify contemporary chattel slavery ignores this fact.

First, consistent with the new ethic, the emphasis in all of the revelations on slavery is on the emancipation of slaves, not on their capture or the continuation of the institution of slavery. (See, for example, verses 2:177, 4:25, 4:92, 5:89, 14:31, 24:33, 58:3, 90:1-12.)

There is not one single verse suggesting that the practice should continue. Further, the Quran makes no mention of slave-markets or slave-trading and it repeatedly exhorts believers to free their slaves as an exemplification of their piety and belief in God.

Perhaps the best example of this emancipatory ethic is chapter 90, which is explicitly addressed to the Prophet Muhammad. It posits that there are two roads one can take in life and that the “high road” is the one that leads the righteous human being to free slaves.

The Prophet followed this exhortation, exhibiting a great solicitude for the material and spiritual condition of the slaves in the society around him. His example inspired his companions to emancipate thousands of slaves and, in an oft-quoted statement, he remarked that he would meet the man who “sells a free man as a slave and devours his price” on Judgment Day.

This is an explicit condemnation of trafficking in free human beings.

It is true that there are reported examples from the Prophet’s life that describe him as giving and receiving slaves and he even used slavery as a tool of conquest in war.

He freed all of his individually owned slaves and the wartime circumstances in those reports were very unique, involving specific people who engaged in war or treachery against him.

There is only one Quranic verse, 47:4, that authorizes capture of prisoners of war and it does not permit slavery, ordering military commanders to either free the prisoners gratis or hold them for ransom.

Enslaving a prisoner of war is therefore arguably illegal and certainly enslaving a non-combatant is likewise an Islamic crime.

http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cnn.com/2014/11/05/isis-says-islam-justifies-slavery-what-does-islamic-law-say/

Part 1

Many forget that, for hundreds of years, Muslim imperialists and slave-traders illegally raided non-combatant villages in Eastern Europe, West Africa, East Africa, India and Southeast Asia, plundering, pillaging and capturing and raping women and children with impunity under pretextual jihads.

It seems that the ISIS ideologues want to revive this shameful legacy.

Traditionalist interpreters conclude that slavery is lawful in Islam simply because there is Quranic legislation regulating it, suggesting an implied permission.

Even the traditionalists must acknowledge, however, that all of the Quranic verses on slavery arise in contexts that overwhelmingly encourage emancipation.

Why is this? It is because the Quranic intendment contemplated a gradual disappearance of chattel slavery.

This is exactly what has happened in history. ISIS refers to the disappearance of chattel slavery in the Muslim world as an “abandonment” of the Shariah.

This is wrong. Rather, the verses contemplate the advent of a slavery-free society through the vehicle of emancipation.

There is another verse in the Quran, 3:64, that interpreters have argued may actually be explicit authority for abolition.

It condemns any “person of the book” who seeks lordship over another human being. Sayyid Qutb, the Sunni theologian and commentator on the Quran who is widely admired by literalists and traditionalists like the ISIS ideologues, offered extensive commentary on this verse in his masterful work, Fi Zilal al-Quran ("In the Shade of the Quran").

Commenting on the verse, he observed that enslaving human beings, like Pharaoh enslaved the Hebrews, is the “worst type of corruption.”

He argued that the verse aims to make sure that “none is elevated above another,” that “none enslaves another,” and that human beings “do not enslave one another.”

He posits that Islam is “total liberation of man from enslavement by others.” A number of other prominent jurists have agreed with this position.

Recently, a number of well-respected Muslim jurists and opinion-makers directed a letter to the leader of ISIS at the time covering a number of issues.

On the issue of slavery, they observed that “no scholar of Islam disputes that one of Islam’s aims is to abolish slavery” and that there has been a Muslim consensus on the prohibition of slavery for over a century.

"Who said slavery is widely practiced in Islamic countries? "

You? At least that's how it comes over

"And no, no one is reading stuff these self-absorbed whomevers write, from Arabia to Pakistan and beyond."

If I don't know about these Scholars! No one doses!

"For the nth time, the koran allows for 'infidels' to be enslaved, and yes, we know the Bible does say it and in fact that's why Muhammad said it too because he basically rewrote the Bible, minus the tales of Hebrew Kings and glorious battles."

And just like the bible, people have found justification to ban slavery, my whole point has been that Slavery, today, is denounced by a large majority of Muslims.

"He almost converted to Judaism then Chrisitianity. "

Intresting

"The KKK IS Christian."

In only an academic sense

"That does NOT excuse ISIL"

You can critizies /Terrorists/ all you want, and I will agree with you that ISIL is a horrific organisation, but my point has been the entire time, that they don't represent most Muslims, even tho you present it to be otherwise

"Arabia, Saudi Arabia, IS Islam."

Yes. And Palestinian/Israel is the birth place of Christianity. Point is? The KSA is still an absolute Monarchy. And they /will/ use any and all means to control the population

"Unless you're Iranian/Shiite, in which case reality sucks."

Yup. If I were an Iranian I would hightail my ass outta there before shit hits the fan.

Whataboutisms make for a poor argument, especially when you're trying to deny something but then go on to justify it via the comparison.

"I didn't do it but he did it first so it's his fault that I did it" is hardly a convincing point.

"That's like saying AOC yapping whatever about Trump somehow evaporated what he has said or done. Despite her fake tears for the empty parking lot on the other side of the fence, those kids are still caged up."

Again, what I am saying is that a lot of Muslim Intellectuals oppose Slavery. It doesn't make it go away, but it shows that a vast majority disagree with the practice

"The "but Christianity is 600 years older, we're still in the Dark Ages, only with PCs and SUVs" isn't their go-to excuse?"

No.

"And voila! We have recreated the entire Planet on the image of

tada!

🎆 America! 🎆"

Yeah. That seems about right, from what I have seen

"Again, modern whatevers that no one else has heard of other than their own self adulating circle can not and have not changed Islamic slave practices "

Ah, maybe in the west. But in the Islamic World and/or Islamic communities? Thats where it counts. And again, as I have been trying to tell you, I bring them up to show you that Islamic consensus is that slavery is bad and taking the actions of some tinpot dictatorships and Terror groups as the norm for all Muslims is intellectually dishonest at worst, and misguided at best.

"can not and have not changed Islamic slave practices from Muhammad, his koran, ISIL, Saudis, and all in between."

Yes, the Quran does indeed talk about slavery, just like the bible and Torah, but do Christians, Jews or Muslims condone Slavery? Of course not. And ISIL is Islamic in the same way that the KKK is Christian. And the Saudis... well Dictators will use every tool to justify their actions. Religion one of them.

"You know why throughout Asia and Africa Moslems are generally found along trade routes and ports of call? Arabic traders would kidnap some locals after the boat was loaded and they were about to leave. Word got around that being a Moslem was a way to avoid this, so people converted for their own protection.
Yes, fear of the actual practice of acquiring slaves helped spread Islam far beyond its immediate sphere of outright conquest.
Nice, huh?"

Indeed it is intresting

Who said slavery is widely practiced in Islamic countries?
And no, no one is reading stuff these self-absorbed whomevers write, from Arabia to Pakistan and beyond.

For the nth time, the koran allows for 'infidels' to be enslaved, and yes, we know the Bible does say it and in fact that's why Muhammad said it too because he basically rewrote the Bible, minus the tales of Hebrew Kings and glorious battles. He stripped away tha nice stories and had men write down the rules as he dictated them. He almost converted to Judaism then Chrisitianity.

The KKK IS Christian. What they did was pretty much LEGAL till 50 years ago. Even when busted on it, they were routinely acquitted in a court of THEIR peers.
That does NOT excuse ISIL. THAT attitude is what I am criticizing, not what someone wrote 2500 years ago about something nearly EVERY culture on Earth practiced.

Arabia, Saudi Arabia, IS Islam. That's the birthplace, the center, the heart.
Unless you're Iranian/Shiite, in which case reality sucks.

Huffington Post?...ah ha ha ha ha ...Colonel Clink you are a hoot....

Cool. Idc

You should learn how to comment on someone's reply before commenting.

always want to ask libtards..........

Thanks

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I think that orange he sprays on himself is toxic or something.

Why are you making all these replies to yourself?