When you can't win legit.

Wow.

Bad map match.

But the logic does ring high on the No Shit, Sherlock Scale: It's not like the majority of illegals are all squashed in Ted Kaczynski's cabin in Montana counting tumbleweeds tumbling by.

Conservatives from 2008 to 2016- We have to follow the Constitution to the letter! No interpreting. No living document. TO! THE! LETTER!

Conservatives from 2016- Look, we need to apply some common sense here. Yeah, sure, the Constitution says we need to count everyone living in the country and doesn't say anything at all about citizenship...but I mean, you know that's not what they really meant. If the founder's were alive today, they would totally have put in the world citizen. They would. And that's why we should only count US Citizens.

we are a nation of immigrants, the right wing broke that system and turned you xenophobes loose on us.

Care more about keeping kids in cages then you do on letting people be free

Actually the top pic is of citizens. Granted, we're not supposed to know that the US Flag looks like anymore so that Trump doesn't look so stupid (yet again), but those Stars n Stripes thingies they're holding isn't quite Honduran.

Also, from the perspective of people with roots going back to the last Ice Age, "criminal trespassers" is a tad ironic.

Plus, there are quite a few Middle Easterners in that top bunch. Tell me, what the hell are they even doing here? They are neither native nor conqueror. Even as flag wavers, they are as they wish to be: alien.

Americans have become parasites in their own land, dependent on foreigners to do everything for us because we're too busy looking for a cubicle job where you can get paid top dollar to fiddle on Facebook all day.

Cut the crap, cut the games, cut ALL immigration.
Let's get off our lazy asses and take care of ourselves, or maybe we SHOULD get the f**k out and back to Europe and let these dumbasses dying in the desert so they can go live in a slum have it back.

I mean technically they are, since they were just granted citizenship and I'm busting chops to make a point before some gimp tries to correct me on a picture of what they give away like confetti here everyday.

When they put the word citizens, women could not vote or hold office, black people were property and American Indians were sub-human to be hunted and their lands stripped from them. F**k your slave holders.

"black people were property and American Indians were sub-human to be hunted and their lands stripped from them. F**k your slave holders."

Including the black and American Indian slave-holders?

Rather than make it hard to become a citizen, make them citizens. why should they be second class and not get a vote for living here?

Because then there’d be too many brown people with rights.

Oh- and rich people couldn’t pay them slave wages.

If they get paid so poorly, why are they literally coming here in droves?

Because it’s more than they make in their home country

So, if their life is better working for “slave wages” by ignoring our immigration laws, they shouldn’t be demanding rights.

They want to be legal. Our system doesn't facilitate that very easily. It's worth the risk to them.

How about we go after the people giving them jobs? Or do they donate too much to the politicians?

While the plight of these people is terrible, immigrating to the US isn’t the answer. And awarding people who cut in line ahead of those who obey our laws is a slap in the face to every legal immigrant and all those who are going through proper channels.

This video helps explain why immigration isn’t the answer.

https://youtu.be/KCcFNL7EmwY

trump never was one for accuracy though

Very true.

How is a record "more accurate" when A) those would have been filled out anyway, and B) you now have 9m less points of data? good god... its not complicated..

What exactly seperates an undocumented individual from a Documented one or an illegal from a legal?

What exactly separates an bank account holder from a bank robber or a trespasser from a welcome guest in your home?

Ran out of arguments to support criminal behavior, I see.

But you haven't run out of food on your table quite yet, so the criminal behavior of farmers ILLEGALLY hiring ILLEGALS continues unabated for how much longer?

Robing a bank is criminal behavior, grabbing womens genitals is criminal behavior, cheating on taxes is criminal behavior, having scam universities' is criminal behavior, meeting with foreign spies during an election is criminal behavior, telling people to lie to congress is criminal behavior..... being born on on a piece of dirt somewhere instead of somewhere else is not criminal behavior.

Yes legally speaking. But other than that?

But what seperates an Ilegal from a legal Citizen? Ignoring the fact that they are illegal of course. What seperates them other than that?

Other than “legally speaking”, what’s the difference between a paying customer and a shoplifter? So, are you saying there’s no difference so there should be no restrictions?

God. I am saying what is the difference between people who are seeking asylum and enter the country before they don't get it, or after they are denied or whatever and people who don't. What is the diffrence between people fleeing War and Poverty and those who don't

That argument is so bogus.

A small fraction of what, Illegal immigrants working in the US? If they’re working and getting paid, they’re either using fake/stolen identities or getting paid under the table and, thus, not paying taxes.

Not even close - start here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States

You should try reading your own sources.

The Congressional Budget Office reported in 2007 that "the tax revenues that unauthorized immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to them"

Which has more money and opportunity? A small town or a big city? More people or less? .. most these folks work, pay SS they will never get back, buy things, beer, groceries, rent, gas, restaurants, etc etc etc... why are the righties such scardy cats? oh youre not scared its the money? ahahaha... meanwhile trump pisses billions on rich folks tax breaks, 4th july parties, billions to farmers for his stupid trade war, 100's of billions to defense etc etc etc..... hey if you want to have a poor country of fat white people knock yourself out... the rest of us want to live in the real world and a vibrant welcoming country.

A sure sign that you have no argument is when you start spouting off bogus claims about the right being meanies to the poor lefties.