Change My Mind

What in the world?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

A pedophile doesn't care about the kids. He only cares about his own desires and how to fulfill them.

Narcissism can be defined as "extreme self-love."

If you stick your *** into a child, it's obvious you don't really care about the kid. You only care about fulfilling your own desires. Isn't that narcissism?

I know many parents (including my own) who would give anything to help their kids. Is giving anything to help someone else really extreme self-love?

Your whole statement can be summed up in this: "those kids can stick it on their own. Meanwhile, I have my **** to attend to." How's that for narcissism?

Also, you didn't even address two claims from the above comment: "feeling secure in the world," and "focussing on their education and graduation." Tell me that taking "special orders" from adults will really help them in those two areas.

I don't know why I even have to defend against pedophilia. It's not even natural.

By the way, that dairy products thing? It's a red herring and has no import on this discussion.

I motherf**king told you so!

Bruh. I just started.

Don't bother, he's just an attention w**re.

The mouth on this one.

So why are you arguing for pedo and against parenting?

Red herring: something designed to distract from the argument at hand. Clearly, I was making an argument against pedo, which means I'm not distracting from the argument about pedo.

If it's a false argument, show me that it's false instead of repeating what you've already said.

So you think parenting is narcissistic because ALL parents want to live forever? Like you think EVERY parent has a desire for immortality? That's called a hasty generalization. Counter-example: My parents don't want to live forever. They don't even care about their genes. They didn't have me at my expense.

You just repeated your claim that it's not at the kid's expense, but you didn't address any argument that it is. Your logic overwhelms me.

"Caring for people who are already living" How? By getting close with their kids? I really doubt a pedophile cares for kids.

You calling me a pedo on your meme is a strawman argument. If people don't have kids, we would no longer have to worry about pedophiles!

I did not make a hasty generalization when I said that all parents are narcissists. It is simply a fact, as there cannot possibly be any other reason for why one would want to have children. When a pedophile f**ks children, it may be at the expense of the child (which I already addressed the insignificance of), but it doesn't damage the child nearly as badly as most believe, and having children damages starving children by wasting hand & jobs (LEL, I had to include that typo). The children didn't ask to be born, either. All of the joys of having a child (besides egotistical satisfaction) can be accomplished at a much cheaper price in various activities, such as adopting nonhuman companions, or even by adopting children instead of recycling the same genes to give birth to a new human.

What I meant by "Caring for people who are already living" is that people can easily spend their money not only on adoption, but simply not having kids abstains from the draining of resources from the poor. What makes this better than charity is that is encourages the poor to get jobs, instead of volunteering (which occupies a would-be job) or donating to charity (which gives money to people who didn't earn it). It's funny because, not to make an ad-hominem, but parents are often the people who waste their time and their money on volunteer work and charity, respectively, likely because procreation, volunteer work, and charity are all communist morals preached by the Catholic Church, which is no surprise to me because Catholicism was invented by Pope Constantine, who used to be the emperor of the socialist Roman Empire. Later on, these morals lead to feudalism.