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The reason the President had to sign an executive order to protect free speech on college campuses

The reason the President had to sign an executive order to protect free speech on college campuses | THE LEFT TRIES TO SUPPRESS CONSERVATIVE ARGUMENTS; BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COMPETE WITH CONSERVATIVE ARGUMENTS. | image tagged in free speech | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,978 views 69 upvotes Made by Perspicacity 6 years ago in politics
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11 ups, 6y
YES! He finally did it!!
4 ups, 6y
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4 ups, 6y,
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You are lumping all liberals into one group. I believe you mean the Far-Left. Allow me to do a little comparison.

Liberal: "I believe in non-traditional values."

Far-Left: "YOU STUPID, BIGOTED MAN PIG!!!!!! IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME, YOU'RE A BIGOT!!!! WHITE MEN ARE GENERALLY EVIL!!!!!"

You see what I'm saying? Your meme is a strawman.

Sure, I did strawmen of conservatives before. But that's because you guys kept making strawmen of liberals in general. So it seemed only fair.
0 ups, 6y,
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In the meme, I did not say liberals. I specifically said the left. I agree with your definitions and find most liberals to be moderate and willing to discuss issues. Leftists, however, are afraid of open discussion of alternative ideas.
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1 up, 6y,
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When you say the left, I thought you meant by the whole left side of the political spectrum.

Liberals are part of the left. And the left consists of various beliefs and ideologies.

What you said sounds like saying "I don't hate this employee. I hate the entire staff".

You know what I'm saying?
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1 up, 6y
*Liberals are the left.

If only Imgflip allowed you to edit comments...
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3 ups, 6y
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The freedom of speech is a fundamental human right. Even though America has it set in stone, other western countries still have a sort of freedom of speech.
But... when extremists are now burning freedom of speech signs, I seriously question whether they have any rationality at all.
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6 ups, 6y,
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8 ups, 6y,
3 replies
If they are not trying to stifle opposing arguments, then why are they stopping speakers on campus?
4 ups, 6y
protesting is fine.
I went and saw noam Chomsky lecture at brown university years ago,and there were hundreds of protesters.

went and saw ben shapiro,because I was invited,and had a ton protesting there as well.

but it is all about platform.
and pushback.

but do we give Richard spencer a platform?
well,we do!
and he gets protested,and he SHOULD be protested!

what I disagree with is violence,or shitty tactics i.e:air horns,pulling fire alarms etc etc.

that is simply childish,and should be condemned for the childishness it is.
let the speaker speak.
you can always line up for the Q-n-A,or make pamphlets stating why you object to that speaker.
the engagement needs to be productive.
3 ups, 6y
3 ups, 6y
4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Then why do they do it?
4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Hate speech
4 ups, 6y,
2 replies
Conservative arguments are hate speech? Are you kidding?
9 ups, 6y,
2 replies
What?! I didn't mean that. What I meant was that this silencing of Free speech is a gross overstating of what the left wants. They want to establish Hate speech laws, but the Right wing media jumped on that and said, they want to completely take away your free speech. I do apologies for the misunderstanding.
4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
The OP wasn't talking about "hate speech" laws, he was talking about the trend where colleges cave to pressure from special interest groups and deny certain conservatives the right to come speak on campus.
6 ups, 6y
Thats nice. But I was talking about hate speech laws.
2 ups, 6y,
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"Hate speech" is covered under US free speech laws. It may suck, depending on where you stand, but it's fact. And the left is vastly overreaching with their claims.
3 ups, 6y
Well, honestly is it such an overreaction to want to stop people from spreading a message of Hate? I imagine that is one of the thoughts behind hate speech laws
4 ups, 6y,
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1 up, 6y,
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4 ups, 6y
3 ups, 6y,
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Octavia, you have a great mind, but there are no "buts" in this argument —except for the butt heads who would try to stifle, maim or kill another because of a different point of view.
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3 ups, 6y,
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0 ups, 6y,
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You're so full of shit.
0 ups, 6y
Oh shut up, you raging bacillus.
2 ups, 6y,
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You do realize that isn’t supressing freedom of speech, right? Let us define freedom of speech. https://billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/bill-of-rights/
Freedom of speech states that CONGRESS shall pass no law restricting it. This includes the rights to protest against anything one does not disagree with. If an ordinary citizen suppresses someone speaking, it is totally legal. It is only the GOVERNMENT that can not. And don’t you dare calling the bill of rights fake news
0 ups, 6y
You are absolutely correct. However, it even extends to the States. Since the Bill of Rights supersedes even state law. The states and their agencies must also protect freedom of speech.

Which means as taxpayer-funded governmental agencies, public universities, like UC Berkeley or Univ. of Wisconson, their administrators, and their faculty, must also protect freedom of speech on their campuses.

See where I am going with this?

Now private universities are different. As a private entity, they are not bound by the Bill of Rights. However, the federal government, as a condition of providing research funding to a private entity, can put requirements on that funding. Such as they do with other vendors.
7 ups, 6y,
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and you all cheer when the president signs an order forcing the point,and call it "freedom of speech"?

the bias and prejudice is strong in you.

curious if you all would feel the same way if it were a "leftie" coming to speak,and the conservatives exercised their right to protest that speaker.would you feel the same?

because that has happened as well.

now I realize it has more moving parts than that,and some of the tactics of the more...rabid..protesters ,was pretty disruptive.

but that wind has blown in both directions.
nobody wants to talk about that though,do they?
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6 ups, 6y,
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The meme just points our the reality of the liberal position. The president's order protects the students depicted in the meme AS WELL AS conservative voices that are being muzzled.
6 ups, 6y
I will state this:
righties tend to honor freedom of speech on a more elementary level than the lefties.

some on this site have let me bash their skulls relentlessly,they may have gotten angry,butthurt and probably offended,but no one suggested I be banned for my speech.

*hat tip you glorious bastards
2 ups, 6y,
3 replies
From tv reality show to alternate reality dimension.

I love this site.
2 ups, 6y,
1 reply
You truly are an idiot, silly neo-Nazi wannabe.
2 ups, 6y,
2 replies
Maybe they'll get Trump on me? He'll Tweeter about pulling muh license?

You're not pretending to be stupid, are you?
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2 ups, 6y,
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1 up, 6y
I initially thought my meme reply too harsh, but then I looked at his comment history, and they all involved calling someone else "stupid." A couple were him and OhWell calling each other that.

Since becoming more liberal is a function of the evolution of society and the individual, obviously that assestment is false. Otherwise our ancestors would have retreated back into the trees upon reaching puberty.
3 ups, 6y,
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I really don't think you know the reality on campuses these days. All due respect, which I owe to you, but there really is a problem these days.
3 ups, 6y,
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I am aware of some universities having issues,and the criticisms.
from what I have seen,not exactly unwarranted either.

truth be told.i think classes such as "gender studies" is a joke.
some of these smaller,and ultra liberal colleges are killing the humanities.
and I am not being hyperbolic.

there has begin a pretty strong pushback from the academic crowd.
took a bit,because who woulda thought a bunch of no-name hacks could wreak so much havoc to academics.

those professors are being shamed into silence,because they should be ashamed.
you don't take impressionable,basically kids,and stuff your own biases into their heads and call it education.

the times,they be a-changing.
2 ups, 6y
Reading this and other posts, i underestimated your knowledge on this. I hope there is pushback. I know some people aren't donating to their alma mater anymore.
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2 ups, 6y,
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"curious if you all would feel the same way if it were a "leftie" coming to speak,and the conservatives exercised their right to protest that speaker.would you feel the same?"

Curious because that doesn't happen?
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
seriously? this is a serious statement that I am meant to take seriously?
naaaaw..you wouldn't be that daft to openly and brazenly post a comment with the factual integrity of CNN..

oh you rascal...that's a good one!
you funny!
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2 ups, 6y,
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I am.

Name a few instances where actual Trump supporters have prevented liberals from speaking at events.

Please don't give instances of crowdsondemand.com employees doing it if you can.
3 ups, 6y,
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1 up, 6y,
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Trump's throwing out of someone interrupting his event does not qualify. I'm pretty sure that's actually an example of the left interfering with free speech.
3 ups, 6y
Trump calling to revoke FCC licenses?

Trump barring journalists from the White House?
3 ups, 6y,
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You are an idiot google search "trump supporter violence"... that will keep you busy the next few days
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1 up, 6y,
1 reply
I bet it will. All that msm debunking would be time consuming.
3 ups, 6y,
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3 ups, 6y
That's Grind's latest reply, too busy slandering people to be able to back his inane party hacking.
4 ups, 6y,
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if you think rightwing people don't protest a "lefty" speaker,you are beyond help.
enjoy your delusions.
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2 ups, 6y,
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You came up with the hypothetical. I just thought you'd be willing to back it up. Protesting is not the same as preventing.

The research I've done shows that Trump supporters are very peaceful people. Enochthewatcher wasn't around for the memes about the outrage of conservatives after we lost the house. You should look them up.
4 ups, 6y
I was talking about protesting.
and I have also stated publicly that I find the more right leaning folk to be much more accommodating when it comes to free speech.

both the right and the left have their problems.
the extreme left is authoritarian when it comes to words,and how we express ourselves.

the extreme right tends to attempt to legislate morality.

notice:extremes.

and they BOTH lead to fascism.

protesting and expressing your grievances is a right.
and I address that in the comment below.
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
you are an idiot. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/310862-trump-my-supporters-were-vicious-violent-during-campaign

http://time.com/4722209/judge-president-trump-rally-violence/
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2 ups, 6y,
2 replies
Lol to both.

Liberals showing up to Trump rallies, lying about their reasons for going, pissing off a crowd, and then complaining when they get punched. That's not free speech. That's inciting violence and bitching about the violence they create.

Reminds me of those antifa people in Charlottesville that bitched about the girl that got ran over and died when their organizers were telling them to go try and get hit by cars.

Great articles.
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4 ups, 6y,
2 replies
It must be very lonely in your mom's basement.
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4 ups, 6y,
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1 up, 6y
He should sue her family for damaging his car with the dent left from her not flying away in time.
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1 up, 6y
I blame the guy who pointed a gun at the driver and the second guy that hit the drivers bumper with a bat to make it sound like he was being shot at.

But yeh, that girl was part of a violent mob so... if you play with fire...
2 ups, 6y,
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Trailers don't have basements.
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2 ups, 6y
He either lives in a rundown trailer, a rundown studio apartment, or his mother's basement.
3 ups, 6y
we have already seen some of your "sources".
https://canadafreepress.com/

ya got no credibility here.
3 ups, 6y
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