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Part of the "Caravan" has already arrived at the border. There has already been violence, and illegal entries. | WHY DO PEOPLE THINK IT IS OK FOR OUR TROOPS TO DEFEND THE BORDERS IN EUROPE; BUT NOT DEFEND THE BORDERS OF OUR OWN COUNTRY? | image tagged in borders | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,278 views 49 upvotes Made by capt6550 5 years ago in politics
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7 ups, 5y,
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Funny thing: the military can't be used to stop a group of unarmed civilians from entering the country. The troops that have been deployed are just going to sit there and do nothing. Another winner initiative from the "fiscally responsible, rule of law" party!
6 ups, 5y,
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The troops that were sent to the border are not combat troops but engineers. There are some MP's but they are there only to provide protection for the troops.

The troops are installing Concertina wire, providing helicopter support to transport border agents, reinforcing the wall and adding extensions. They are providing logistical support and freeing up Border Patrol to do their job. They are also installing advanced monitoring equipment.

So they are far from sitting around doing nothing.
3 ups, 5y,
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The news now says they sent most of the troops to the Texas border. Which would make sense since all that caravan "news" was just for the easily influenced right before the midterms. A small group of troops, engineers like you said, went to San Diego. It baffles my mind that anyone still believes anything fox/trump has to say since it's been proven time and time again that they lie for profit.
3 ups, 5y
The deployment makes perfect sense. Most of the engineers went to Texas because there is less protection in Texas. There are already major barriers in California and the western part of Arizona. The troops in Calif. are reinforcing what is already in place.

The troops themselves are not allowed to perform any police duties they can only provide logistic support.
2 ups, 5y,
2 replies
Yeah, you're right. They're down there wasting money. Go Fiscal Conservatism!
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4 ups, 5y
^^And that's why you don't take financial advice from a liberal lol.

Illegal immigrants can become a financial burden for decades. They are a recurring cost that keeps growing. Securing the border is not a waste of money, it's a smart investment.
1 up, 5y
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3 ups, 5y
4 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
If by invading Germany you mean freeing France from German occupation than yes
0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
So you agree.
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0 ups, 5y,
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No not really they aren't Invaders they were Liberators and crossing the boarders of Germany was justified by the atrocities they committed
0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
The Germans saw them as invaders.
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0 ups, 5y
Some but not all, the general opinion back then from what I understand is they didn't hate the allies but then didn't love then either, they just wanted the war to be over and the carpet Bombings to stop, no idea about China being all we did during WW2 was help, like defending the general area and shit from Japan with the Flying Tigers
0 ups, 5y
AS DID THE CHINESE...

BOTTOM READS "AMERICAN INVADER WILL BE DEFEATED"
2 ups, 5y
Because this isn’t war and we I already have a department of the government who’s job is to protect the Border
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2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
It is not our purpose. We cannot detain people within the U.S. or the military could take over on its own. It could anyway but not legally.
3 ups, 5y
Until martial law is declared.
4 ups, 5y,
2 replies
9 ups, 5y,
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Except the caravan is primarily able-bodied young men. Besides, I don't want anybody entering the US illegally.
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Too bad you are part of America becoming the "Home of the weak, land of the afraid"
6 ups, 5y,
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Not afraid, just want to protect the greatest nation on earth.
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Protect it from a bunch of poor people... you are making America pathetic, not even close to great.
6 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Just asking them to follow our laws and enter the US legally.
2 ups, 5y,
2 replies
No, that is not what is happening - America since trump has become the land of the weak, the fearful, the selfish, the paranoid, and the dishonest.
5 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Nope, just want people to follow the rule of law. Nobody has a "right" to enter the US.
2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Redirection. This conversation is over.
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3 ups, 5y,
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4 ups, 5y,
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1 up, 5y
What part of they are the ones STAYING in Nicaragua does your simple ignorant mind not get?
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3 ups, 5y
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2 ups, 5y
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3 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y
You are afraid of the wrong things dopey. -

In June 2006 an incarcerated US Army soldier and active gang member identified 60 to 70 gang-affiliated military personnel in his unit allegedly involved in the theft and sale of military equipment and weapons. The soldier reported that many of the military personnel in charge of ammunition and grenade distribution are sergeants who are active gang members.
2 ups, 5y
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7 ups, 5y,
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A coward would let strangers in their house without permission. Are you a doormat?
3 ups, 5y,
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5 ups, 5y
1 up, 5y
0 ups, 5y
because one of thems hitler and the other are mino- oh i see B) epic roast thanks i get it B) B) B)
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5 ups, 5y,
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Because they were fighting the nazis you dumbf**k!
12 ups, 5y,
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Not fighting Nazis now, but still in Europe protecting the borders.

You are so predictable, no facts, uninformed, and just spues ad hominem. What a waste of good oxygen.
3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Protecting the borders from what?
6 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Good question. I don't really know what they are protecting against, but everybody thinks NATO is still necessary. We currently have over 81,000 troops in Europe.

We have over 71,000 in Asia, and 26,000 in the Middle East.
2 ups, 5y,
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81,000 troops in Europe is not needed. Both the UK and France have sufficient nukes to wipe Russia out ten times over if needed and both have capable militaries for most small scale engagements. I suspect the answer comes back to what Eisenhower warned of, there is money to be made in deploying and supporting such long term engagements.
2 ups, 5y,
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Why does the US import oil and other goods that it can produce itself? I suspect that it has to do, to a degree, with maintaining a level of interdependence. The wars of the 20th century demonstrated the dangers of both isolationism and interventionism, but finding the right balance in a changing context is more art than science. Whatever the reasons or reasons, I agree that it seems unlikely to be for pure defense.
1 up, 5y,
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I agree with everyone being good citizens of the world, isolationism hurts everyone. However the reason the US imports oil is that not all the oil it produces is the right type. Oil comes in different categories, depending on its use. For other goods, normally the reason it is, it's cheaper from abroad, especially things like clothes and electronics.
1 up, 5y,
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Hey, thanks. I didn't know that about oil.
2 ups, 5y
Yeah, there is like light and heavy crude to keep it simple. The Saudis produce mostly light crude which is useful for gas and fuelling planes, hence why you import it. The US produces a mix and heavy crude is much more expensive to refine. However, the US is becoming so sufficient in gas they will start exporting huge quantities from 2019 from the south coast. A big earner for the oil and gas companies.
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5 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Very true, unlike 200 years ago....
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1 up, 5y,
2 replies
So why compare it to 200 years ago?
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0 ups, 5y
I meant say "own"
3 ups, 5y
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