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9 ups, 6y,
8 replies
12 ups, 6y,
1 reply
You are somewhat incorrect.
In 1917-1920 the Soviets almost killed off the Cossacks. Stalin also carried out what some call ethnic cleansing of the Crimean Tatars.

The Russians were also very antisemitic. Research the progroms in the early 20th century right through the 1940's.

The Russians also killed many gypsies and millions of Polish during WWII. They also went after gays and many orthodox religious groups. It has been estimated that over 100,000 priests, monks, and nuns were executed

In 1932-1933 the Soviets starved almost 5 million Ukrainians and more than 1.3 million ethnic Kazakhs (38% of the indigenous population) died.

The Chinese Communists, even today are killing Muslims.
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0 ups, 6y,
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Ironically enough the Bolshevik’s and early communism had a Jewish majority in its government. kinda adds context later for in the war, https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/ tons of other sources much much older from the ppl themselves
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0 ups, 6y
Not they to weren’t free from the many many purges and the eventually pushed out through time
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9 ups, 6y,
1 reply
The communists horrible atrocities were committed against their own i.e anyone who disagreed with them or was alleged to have disagreed with them. does that policy sound familiar?
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4 ups, 6y
yes, my liberal assed crybaby neighbor
8 ups, 6y
Soviets actually did have Pogroms, which are government controlled riots against a certtain group. The pogroms were against the jews
3 ups, 6y
So what about them genociding the Volga Germans?
2 ups, 6y
Communists first targeted classes of people. First it was the former nobility and their service staff, then military officers, business owners, land owners. When they ran out of those people to kill, they started inventing new classes to target, like those that didn't agree with the party line, backers of one of the high ranking party members that fell out of favor, religious minorities, people who were taken prisoner during the war, and so on.

As for racism, there's was plenty of that too, only their slogans spoke otherwise.
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1 up, 6y
Not true. My paternal grandmother's people were specifically targeted because they were caucasian Pomors and their neighbors, Samir people, were also targeted. Most of them were brutally murdered or sent to Siberia where they were starved to death. It is called ethnic cleansing.
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
How is it that you always disappear after someone corrects your ignorance? can't handle the truth?
4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
"Octavia_Melody
That is true with one difference. The Nazis specifically targeted people of other ethnicities. The communists didn't. I'm not saying the communists didn't commit horrible atrocities, because they did. But their hatred wasn't fueled by racism like Nazism was."

"That is true with one difference.

The Nazis specifically targeted people of other ethnicities.

The communists didn't.

I'm not saying the communists didn't commit horrible atrocities, because they did.

But their hatred wasn't fueled by racism like Nazism was."

I separated the sentences so you can look at them individually in order to enhance your comprehension abilities.

Communist ideaology is based on uniting workers of the world.

In practice, however, atrocities have been committed, many listed in the response.

Nazi ideaology is based on uniting Germans by demonizing and exterminating others.

In practice, that is what they went about doing - locally, and globally.

Hope that helped.
2 ups, 6y,
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Actions are what matter, not slogans. The communists absolutely DID exterminate people based on ethnicity. They also exterminated people based on wealth(even wealth you were born into. Didn't matter you had no control over who your family is, you must DIE). They exterminated people who dared to speak out against them.. exterminated prisoners of war, occupied populaces, academics. Their hatred was fueled by racism, classism, unfettered idealism, and atheism. SO much better. Not. Sorry but you don't get to excuse millions of deaths caused by pure hate by just disregarding ethnic purges from the side you like more because of blind partisanship. JFC its disgusting.
2 ups, 6y,
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So we're all on the same page then?
Glad to be of help.

See, it wasn't that hard once you read read what he said for real real.

Perhaps next time he can itemize the atrocities to illustrate the point that atrocities are bad things that bad people do for reasons that are bad to further facilitate the understanding of the point he had made.
2 ups, 6y,
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"Their hatred wasn't fueled by racism like Nazism was." Did you fail to comprehend the points you yourself were trying to teach me? The above statement is FALSE. I am NOT on the same page with it, because it is a lie. There is no getting around the fact that the communists DID feel a LOT of race-based hatred. Or do you think modern Russians just became racists overnight after the fall of the Union? FFS, think, man.
0 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Need it drawn out in crayons for you to understand?
0 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Wow, you really are mentally handicapped, aren't you?
0 ups, 6y
Awesome
1 up, 6y
Wrong
8 ups, 6y,
3 replies
5 ups, 6y,
2 replies
That is the battle flag of an army. It does not represent a nation, state, government or ideology. I don't know how that is relevant.
6 ups, 6y,
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1 up, 6y
lol
2 ups, 6y
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0 ups, 6y
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Prepare to say good bye.
7 ups, 6y,
1 reply
If black people want to vote for a rich nationalist whose party wants to cut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and Welfare, meanwhile handing out corporate tax cuts like Halloween candy, they are free to do so.
3 ups, 6y,
2 replies
I know! It's almost like they're tired of being dependent on the government and wanna make their own way. Good for them.
4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Good luck paying for your grandparents retirement and medical costs $$$!
2 ups, 6y,
1 reply
The buck has to stop somewhere. The current system is not gonna work for us. Have to put ol gma down like ol yeller. ;)
3 ups, 6y,
2 replies
We actually won't need to put anyone down... That's the beauty of removing those benefits. The poor, uninsured, handicapped, and elderly will become homeless and simply die on their own. Automation and the death of various industries will put millions more on the chopping block. If they ever successfully abolish abortion it'll be icing on the cake.
2 ups, 6y
Replying to your comment below. What does that have to do with the government giving people who don't try for themselves money. It makes our country weaker and the government's influence stronger. When our Constitution was written im sure a higher percentage of people were dying and starving.
2 ups, 6y,
3 replies
Our government is built so families help each other. It is not the government's place to.
3 ups, 6y
Our government was built with less than 3 million people when everything (or virtually everything) was hand made.. a considerablely different situation.
1 up, 6y
She should have made better life choices instead of pissing away her money and asking me to pay for her mistakes. I've been homeless a few times. I talked with alot of other homeless folks. Homelessness is always a choice.
1 up, 6y
2 ups, 6y,
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I have to add my own position. I think as a group, black people have a negative attitude and a loser culture. Success is not really aspired for. My mom was a minority immigrant in the ghettos and worked her ass of in school so I live in the top 1%. I am a huge believer of social Darwinism and how it helps a society, who creates a ladder that only the best can climb and their families can stay. Our government can do a little, but if somebody is incapable of supporting themselves we shouldn't. I don't think social security cuts should be used for tax cuts or defense, but working at our yearly deficit. No matter hoe much money we through at them, poor blacks and other groups and also people specifically need to work for themselves.
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Agreed. And that's what the movement is about. The victimhood mentality and breaking up of the family has ultimately been the goal to keep blacks obedient to the democratic party. And boy has it worked.
1 up, 6y
Yes. Blacks shouldn't feel forced to vote for the "party of minorities"
0 ups, 6y
So was the Russian and Nazi flag....oh and yes it did represent an ideology
5 ups, 6y
2 ups, 6y,
1 reply
That flag makes a neat tramp stamp
4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
You gonna sit there talking about it or stand up and prove it? ;P
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Lol. No tramp stamp here, but it would be the greatest ever!!
4 ups, 6y
don't worry, I don't mind paying.. for a temporary tattoo.
:P
4 ups, 6y,
2 replies
In no way did 20th century Russia represent what Marx wanted in Communism, like the Nazi party represented its building blocks.
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3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
*Never* works
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Has a laissez-faire capitalism ever worked
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2 ups, 6y,
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if my History studies are right, it might have worked in France in the 19th century

does anyone use laissez-faire capitalism these days? in the true sense of Laissez-faire i.e. non -governmental interference?
2 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Does anybody use true communism these days? In Cold War Cuba, one could argue communism was pretty successful, not perfectly adherent to the fundaments but not so far either.
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2 ups, 6y,
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you could also argue that true communism/socialism hasn't really been given a chance, since any country that goes that way is invariably "democratised" by the west or sanctioned back to the stone-ages
2 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Yes, the Soviet Union was given a chance, but didn't use it for true communism. If it worked and produced power, it would have gotten a chance. I am not sure a real government has really tried.
1 up, 6y,
2 replies
Capitalism is the means of helping the disabled by selling them prosthetics. Communism is the means of helping the disabled by cutting off everyone's legs.
0 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Or maybe pooling all the money to buy prosthetics, instead of selling at a ridiculous price. Look I'm a fan of Americas socialistic capitalism, maybe with a bit less socialism. My point was that Nazis and communism are equal.
0 ups, 6y,
3 replies
I agree with capitalist organizations having a more socialist compensation program since the cashiers actually do more for the success of the company than the C suite ever has. However, taxing a successful company to pay for a failing company is nothing more than theft. That is why socialism will never work; it is taking from those who have personal responsibility and giving to those who choose to actively avoid responsibility.
0 ups, 6y
Socialism, atleast Democratic socialism works in Denmark, China, Finland, and Canada
0 ups, 6y
You mean the Denmark and Finland that is being propped up by The United States taxpayer, China that was working on depopulating the entire country through famine until it gave in and started capitalism again, and Canada that the only socialist program is healthcare and it takes 6 months to get pneumonia treated unless you go to a capitalist hospital?
0 ups, 6y
Also, China is nothing close to a democracy. Winnie the Pooh, I mean Leader Xi Jinping, has been appointed dictator for life, even after outlawing all references to Winnie the Pooh in China.
0 ups, 6y
Oh I'm dumb I meant not equal.
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
When the National Socialist German Workers' Party was founded it did not call for antisemitism. But, like all socialist governments, it needed a scapegoat to blame everything on. The first use of victimhood.
1 up, 6y
I understand, but the Nazi party was deeply rooted in the belief of the superiority of the Aryan race. The hammer and sickle represent mass genocide, I would not represent myself with it, but it can also represent the not inherently evil communism.
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