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Speaking of, just what the heck is this person? I think he/she here has perfected the "fluid gender" thing.

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Well, science does provide substantial evidence for the exsistance of more than 2 genders, and most people against there being more than 2 genders tend to not be able to provide any actual scientific data, and often end up quoting the Bible.

Evidence?

"most people against there being more than 2 genders tend to not be able to provide any actual scientific data"

Can't provide data for what isn't.

The Gay and Trans rights movements have existed since the Truman years, and only until Reagan have the first real protests for and against popped up, not to mention that Homosexuality was excepted in the vast majority of Ancient cultures before Christianity (hell, in Sparta it was practically mandatory!)

"Wake up and read your history book" is always there when you can't argue properly.

yes can we go back to that lifestyle

Boys have a p**is, girls have a va**na. That's all there is. Two. End of story.

Not end of story. Not all girls have v's and not all boys have p's. There are rare medical conditions that cause the development of genitalia and even gonads that do not match the person's sex chromosomes and can even cause both sex organs to develop. So there's at least 3 sexes (male, female, and intersex). Gender is another matter. Gender is determined by culture. Some cultures have more than 2 genders, most notably, the Native Americans.

Proper terminology:
Sex--male, female, intersex
Gender--boy, girl, man, woman

So exactly when did it change? Not so long ago the termswere interchangeable and if you were a boy were a boy. You could say you were a girl but you still didn't get to use the girls' restroom. I saw a guy trying that once and it didn't work. So when did our definition of gender change? And what's the deal with the 50-odd "genders" that container the term "sexual?" Don't those lean more toward orientation than identity?

It's been that way for decades (40s or 50s?), people have just been using them incorrectly. Now you know!

Well I at least I have your explanation of it. Still it doesn't explain why the word "sexual" is in the description of many of these genders. You didn't answer all of my questions.

You're referring to sex, not gender.
Sex refers to your physical state (of which there are only two, not counting disabilities (or 'biological accidents)
Gender is far more complicated, but effectively comes down to which gender you are, and which gender you are attracted to.

No, they are one and the same.

No, they are different.
Again, Sex is physical, Gender is mental.

But...if a man deciding that he is a woman does not make him a woman. Again, to each their own, just my observation.

That is a new defininition, but even if I accept that definition, there is no scientific evidence to support multiple genders. It is merely something we accept at a social level, as a form of political correctness.

Here people:
A study from 2017 on this subject: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/icd.2064

This study shows that boys typically choose boy toys and girls typically choose girls toys. Implicit in the study is the assumption of binary gender (i.e. that boys behave a certain way and girls another) and an acceptance that statistical correlation implies that certain behaviors are inherently masculine or feminine. There is no evidence or even implication of additional genders in this study.
All this study indicates is that certain behaviors often (but still not always) correlate with biological gender).

people force their children to play with trucks or dolls depending on their gender because of modern day gender assumptions

I won't say zero, but I think they are exceedingly rare.

That would be an exception. I've heard of it but that's all. Still, given the human population it seems that there would be several of them out there.

I am referring to the argument that there are multiple genders, many of which contain the word "sexual." I have no problem with those who identify as one of these genders, whatever makes them sleep at night. I guess I'm just old and wondering where all of these genders were back in the day. Some are real, but are more about orientation, such as bisexual. I know because I'm mkst definitely a male but happen to be bisexual. It isn't my gender, it's my orientation. So I wonder if many of these so-called genders are more of a social construct as a way of self-identification...or maybe justification for certain life choices. Dunno. I guess I'm rambling.

Science would say there are three.
Male (xy with a p**is), female (xx with a va**na and uterus), and biological accidents (anything else).

Plenty of men with xx though (100%serious)

so im an accident?, i dont think so

In Biology you can't lump multiple things in one name (in your case "biological accidents") in Biology. Also, "Biological Accidents" aren't a thing. Biology doesn't work like that.

Biological accidents are a thing. The biological purpose of gender is reproduction. Any presentation that is not going to be capable of reproduction, is an accident from a biological standpoint.
So I take it back. There are, biologically, only two genders. Male and female. Every thing else is no gender. From a scientific standpoint, the purpose of gender is reproduction.
Note that I am only referring to biology. I do not consider the social behaviors that are erroneously associated with gender to be valid. I do not consider gender to be a valid social designation, as males, females, and others are supposed to be treated equally and be free to behave and socialize however they see fit.

I stand by my statement. There are only two biological genders, unless you count biological accidents, in which case it is three. The biological purpose of gender is reproduction.
Gender as a social designation has no basis in science. Even more So since we are supposed to treat everyone equally and allow everyone to behave and socialize as they see fit. (I am against using gender to control behavior in any way, including which bathroom one uses).
If one choses to identify as a female socially, I will respect that, but I don't consider it any more meaningful than respecting someone identifying as goth or valley or submissive or dominant. It has no basis in science and no relevance in a modern society in which we are not supposed to practice sexism.

Yes I believe public bathrooms should be open to people of either gender. Because we need to ask why they are separate in the first place. There are privacy stalls, so I don't see the issue, unless one is exposing thier genitals to others, in which case biological gender would be far more important than how one identifies.
If one goes to a doctor, biological make up is more important than how one identifies.
If I'm hanging out with someone, thier gender is (or at least should be) irrelevant. If I'm hanging out with biological females, we might be more likely to commiserate over periods and cramps (Biological issues that have nothing to do with how one identifies).
I was mainly adressing the idea that there is no scientific/biological basis for more than 2 (or three, if you count "other") genders.
I think inventing new labels (particularly ones with no basis in science) to make it easier to categorize people who do not accept traditional social roles (social roles have no basis in science, it is something we have merely accepted as a culture, like religion) is more sexist than not using them at all. The reason we keep coming up with "new genders" is when someone doesn't fit neatly in the social boxes we've already invented, we invent a new box. I say we get rid of the boxes altogether.

thank you

omg thank you, thank you, this is so true

https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders#:~:text=What%20is%20gender%3F,female%20at%20birth%20are%20women.

Meanwhile, the people who say there are only two genders and humanity is confined in little boxes also believe that the world is protected by a guy who dangled to death on a pair of sticks and that Obama started the transgender movement.

Technically your right, but there is a third, these people have fully working male and female genitalia. I guess you could call them real bisexuals.

More like "Still believes that fetuses are not really humans"

Yeah, math is hard. It's way easier to believe in that stupid ass pumper Jesus. He didn't use no fancy wurds!! Duuuhhh!!! I like da Trump Duuhhh!!! F**king retards lol

you made me laugh

Also, unborn children aren't people. But muh science.

Gender and sex are two different concepts. Basic science!

Sex is determined by your genes. The two most common are male (xy) and female (xx). However, there are also intersex persons. There are a variety of conditions that cause the genitalia, gonads, and/or genes to not match. It would be nice if society caught up with medicine and included intersex as a third sex.

Gender is a societal construct. Gender had nothing to do with science, except anthropology. Most cultures today only have 2 genders. There have been cultures with more before. All pre-European contact Native American tribes had 3-5 genders. In fact, those that we would can non-binary today were highly respected! As cultures change and evolve, so did gender constructs. You don't have to like how it's evolving, but you must accept that that is how the world works and always has.

Please, educate yourself before speaking. Or making memes.

"All pre-European contact Native American tribes had 3-5 genders."

Do you have any evidence to support that assertion?

do you have any evidence to prove it wrong tho?