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Gay married man defends baker, as does the Supreme Court

Gay married man defends baker, as does the Supreme Court  | "If a baker won't bake you a cake, FIND ANOTHER BAKER. DON'T DEMAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT TELL HIM WHAT TO DO; with his private business."; ~ DAVE RUBIN | image tagged in baker,gay marriage,supreme court,wedding cake,dave rubin,memes | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
24,497 views 197 upvotes Made by james3v6 7 years ago in fun
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28 ups, 7y,
4 replies
Roll Safe Think About It Meme | IF A CHRISTIAN BAKER WON'T BAKE YOU A CAKE FOR A GAY, FIND A MUSLIM IT'S THE RELIGION OF PEACE | image tagged in memes,roll safe think about it | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
13 ups, 7y
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! You should submit that.
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11 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Bad Luck Brian Meme | FINDS A MUSLIM BAKER HEY BRO | image tagged in memes,bad luck brian | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
13 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Bad Luck Brian Meme | BAKER THINKS HE'S GAY BRINGS HIM UP TO THE ROOF FOR BETTER LOOK AT A NEIGHBORHOOD | image tagged in memes,bad luck brian | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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6 ups, 7y
11 ups, 7y
10 ups, 7y,
2 replies
True story. Hidden cam.
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5 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Isn't that Steven Crowder? He did this a few years back.
6 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Yup. The “average (slightly outspoken) guy”. ; D
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2 ups, 7y,
1 reply
He can be funny at time, regardless of his political views.
3 ups, 7y
Yes, he can be funny sometimes, but he can also be a bit annoying... ; )
3 ups, 7y
I remember this.
13 ups, 7y
Support from another planet
9 ups, 7y

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8 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Kind of oversimplifying his position, isn't it? He also had a super long discussion on how these kinds of decisions may snowball in a direction the original participants would find disturbing.
14 ups, 7y,
2 replies
Definitely.
Can't fit a position as deep as Rubin's into a meme!
Start getting the government to encroach upon the liberties of others who you disagree with and it could very well be turned back on you eventually. Especially when "your political or cultural opponents" are in power. But people who react on their feelings only care about what makes them feel better now. Sad.
7 ups, 7y
Very well put.
3 ups, 7y,
2 replies
True, and the repercussions of "Religious Liberty" laws that impose the will of any religious group on others has blown back pretty hard, too. Groups suing schools to allow religious clubs to form on public school property ended up opening the door to atheist and satanist groups. And now there's a case before a court about a church suing for government funds to be allotted to fix up their church's playground, which could be used later to rescind tax exempt status and closed book policies for churches. Bet they didn't think about that when they complained. :D
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4 ups, 7y,
1 reply
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4 ups, 7y,
1 reply
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1 up, 7y
0 ups, 7y,
1 reply
The upside to a church losing 501(c)3 status would be the freedom of speech on the pulpit. I think they would be better off if that happened.
0 ups, 6y,
2 replies
I've always felt that a pastor's place within the church itself is preaching the Word of God, not stumping for a particular Party or candidate. At least from the pulpit. What he does privately is his own affair, but when he is at the altar he is there to preach the Word. He can preach on the morality and Biblical or non-Biblical nature of our laws, and that's already legal, but to use his place at the altar to tell his congregation who to vote for, which is not legal, is an abuse of the trust given him. The church is the House of God, not a place to try and associate God's authority with a particular political candidate or Party.

Can you imagine if the Israelite priests had used the Holy of Holies to hang banners for Pilate or Caesar? They'd have been stoned for blasphemy.
0 ups, 6y
I disagree. If a particular candidate is a nasty, vile, criminal pedophile, shouldn't the pastor alert the congregation to this? If the candidate is actually a God-fearing person who is being shut out of the media, shouldn't the pastor alert the congregation to this? Our government became incredibly corrupted after churches were forced into 501(c)3 status. It's not the only factor (operation mockingbird), but it is a big one.
0 ups, 6y,
1 reply
I forgot to mention that in the Old Testament, God was very strict about what could be placed in the tabernacle and Holy of Holies. After Jesus fulfilled the Law, we don't have that issue anymore. No more stonings (unless you're into Sharia law).
0 ups, 6y
Even Jesus said the Temple was for GOD. For PRAYER. For taking care of the spiritual needs of the people and for worshiping the Lord. He also indicated that the earthly glories of this world are in no way comparable to the eternal glory of God.

If a politician is doing something despicable and sinful the pastor can use his pulpit to talk about the sin, not about the politics. Once he's out of that building his responsibilities change. He is still a pastor, he still carries weight with his congregation, and he can support or denounce a politician like any other private citizen, but that altar is for GOD, not for his personal stance on who should vote for who.

Using his God given authority as the Shepherd of the Church body to push a particular candidate's earthy political message from the pulpit is borderline blasphemous. In using that pulpit to stump for a human political candidate you are presuming to speak FOR God and claim that God, in His infinite wisdom, totally agrees with YOUR political ideology. You're saying, "Hey, I know I'm here to feed you spiritually and lead you to the Lord, but let's talk about why you should vote for Bob Gunderson and his taxation plans."

In using the Altar of God, which is for God ALONE, to promote a politician you metaphorically make that politician and his agenda equal to God and God's agenda. You indicate that your earthly political preferences are equal to God's eternal plan. Because if the Altar of God is for GOD ALONE, and you use it to promote a temporal politician, you either bring God down to the level of the politician or you have raised that politician up to share God's spotlight.
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7 ups, 7y
7 ups, 7y,
2 replies
I think the two cancel eachother
7 ups, 7y,
1 reply
My attitude about people is, if they don't want my money, they don't have to have it.

Hey, what's your fave cake?
4 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Although birthday cake is purty good.
Yours?
Lemme guess.
Redvelvet
6 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Choco with choc icing, yaya!

There's this Valencia Bakery on Jerome Ave in the Bronx where we used to get our birffday cakes when we were kids. Yellow cake with layers of pineapple, white icing on top, served with vanilla ice cream on the side that came packed with a chunk of dry ice we'd put in a bucket of water and run around outside as fog rose...

That cake was friggin awesome, and we had fun with the ice....
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3 ups, 7y,
1 reply
2 ups, 7y,
1 reply
Oh my, how did you manage that? I remember the slightest touch, yeeouch!!!

We just ran around the yard with the bucket like it was the greatest thing ever...
OH! And I'd even toss in random stuff from my chemistry set hoping to blow it up! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I've always been an idiot, haha
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1 up, 7y,
1 reply
2 ups, 7y,
1 reply
That sounds awesome! Wish I thought of it back then, haha

One 4th of July, my friend down the block, his uncle was a cop. He got a ton of fireworks from a bust, and gave a load to his family. Since we had so much, we'd light packs of firecrackers, toss them in a garbage can (metal back then), quickly put on the lid and sit on it just to feel them muffled pings. I think he did a few M80s that way too. Good times.
2 ups, 7y,
2 replies
Be honest you sat on it to stimulate your anus.
2 ups, 7y
"Natalie_vance
F**k yea.
Merica.
Bottle rockets
All that shiz.
I drop like 300 a year on the 4th."

"Natalie_vance
When did the make them illegal there?
That sucks!"

Dunno, I was surprised when we took a trip to Fla way back they were legal, then I found out in PA and wherever else they're legal too.

People still got em, just had to know where.

That Giuliani asswipe tried stopping them, and finally he did one year. I was living in a apt in a crowded neighborhood (Arthur Ave/Belmont, the one in a Bronx Tale) and took the longest walk. The only thing burning was BBQ grills on the sidewalks. Quiet as hell. He even got the Mafia one they had in out neighborhood. They had block parties on the 4th with pro quality shit. Someone ratted out where they were stored days before. Assholes.

Did you call them "Jap Rockets"? Cuz that's how we called them.
1 up, 7y,
2 replies
We were kids, you zagnut...

When we were teens tho, he had a bunch of his friends from school come over on the 4th. The whole bunch bought only M80s and Bottle Rockets that year. They went to this parkway down the block and threw the M80s. I stayed away for most of that because I have sensitive hearing and them things are just way loud and they did this for hours plus I had a friend over from hs and we went home for BBQ. Whatever.

Anyways, when those ran out, we divided into two sides, and had a war with the bottle rockets, using used Roman Candle sticks left over from other people to shoot at each other. At one point my side made a charge, screaming and shooting away, but then they blasted the f**k out of us as we were out in the open, so our leader screamed, "RETREAT! RETREAT!" so we ran back.

Good times.

Are fireworks legal where you're at? Because they're not here.
2 ups, 7y
F**k yea.
Merica.
Bottle rockets
All that shiz.
I drop like 300 a year on the 4th.
2 ups, 7y
When did the make them illegal there?
That sucks!
4 ups, 7y,
1 reply
1 up, 7y,
1 reply
1 up, 7y,
2 replies
Technically, it's a narrow decision because what the decision effects is "narrow". In their decision, they even said that this can't be seen as setting a legal precedent in this case, so that's why it's "narrow".
2 ups, 7y
0 ups, 7y
I'm not with you.
When You look up "narrow ruling definition" google only relates to the 'Jack Phillips Supreme Cort'-case.
pretty much a neologism - not a code term.
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6 ups, 7y
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4 ups, 7y,
1 reply
If a Nazi in full regalia goes into a Jewish bakery asking for a cake to be made with a big spastically on it, should the Jewish baker be forced to make it?
If a KKK member in full dress goes into an African American bakery, should the black baker be forced to serve him?
If a total jerk comes into my bakery, insulting my staff, should I be compelled to serve him?
0 ups, 7y,
1 reply
What's a "spastically?"
1 up, 7y
Swastica autocorrected.
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3 ups, 7y,
1 reply
4 ups, 7y
No problem. I'll find another shop.
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