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See n say | What does the sheep say? "No one needs to own an AR-15." | image tagged in see n say,sheep,ar-15,gun control,march for our lives,memes | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Ban AR15s | DK | image tagged in gun control,gun ban,ar15,david hogg,nra | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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THIS IS WHY YOU NEED AN AR-15 | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Morgan Freeman | YOU SHOULD SUBMIT THAT YOU KNOW | image tagged in morgan freeman | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Go mash that UpVote button....
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You know that works both ways, right?
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You're right! It does work both ways!
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The whole "no one needs such and such" argument needs to stop. I get it that some people don't like those types of guns. But that argument needs to end because it's a slippery slope of an argument and a dangerous one at that which can be applied to damn near everything.
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Right on.
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Why aren’t they trying to protest mental health support? If they cared about gun deaths they would go after the suicides. Which account for like 60 percent of all gun deaths.
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They don't care about gun deaths. What they really want is complete disarmament of the American Populace
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The mentally ill being supported? WHY BOTHER, THEY'RE ALL DEFECTS ANYWAYS DUHHH! In honesty though after 14+ years in the "mental health" system, they don't care. They would rather you commit suicide I'd even go so far to say.
They say pills are a tool not the cure but here have some adderal, Vicodin, Ritalin and oh look oxy!
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lol I respect police officers, but that one just seemed to flow from james3v6's meme!
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6 ups
priceless sir, one upvote for you!
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I'm not saying they were very reasonable before but when people start calling for bans demand goes up and prices go up. That is called "economics" which is something else liberals and leftists don't understand.
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You are so right, these marchers don't mean what they put on their signs: i.imgflip.com/27bsuk.jpg (click to show)

And no media outlets ever discuss banning certain firearms or repealing the 2nd Amendment: i.imgflip.com/2777x0.jpg (click to show)
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You mean more constructive than putting your ignorance and stupidity on display for all of IMGFLIP to see?

Wow. That's setting the bar flush with the floor.
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It's called the "Trump slump". Basically, the NRA can't scare it's members into thinking an Evil Black Librul® is coming to take their guns, and not enough firearms are being sold.
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we f**ked ours up so bad it said "what does the cow say? BAA!" so remember you could very possible tinker with one so it'd say that, we made sure ours went insane.
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I feel dirty for making that comment.
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You don’t beat around the bush!
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Why does not being a sheep matter? Even if it did, you are in a primarily conservative controlled site, so are you a sheep?
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I'm a Christian and that might set off all kinds of red flags for you.
My worldview tells me that all people are sheep and we all have need of a Shepherd to lead us in the right way.
The biblical Christian worldview does not tell me to blindly follow my Shepherd unquestioningly. Jesus Christ himself tells us to "count the cost" of being a disciple. The ignorant and dumb sheep that does not do that will not last as a disciple. They may appear to be a disciple for a little while but they are not really.

The ignorant and dumb sheep of the rest of the world are grouping around for a shepherd to lead them. They are told to "think for themselves" but still end up repeating the what they hear from their "shepherds" or leaders. They don't give much thought to the consequences of their actions. They only consider what they want right now and what they think is right.

You could make the same "see n say" meme quoting a bible verse and I'd probably say "amen" and give you upvotes because there is nothing wrong with being a sheep if you have the right shepherd/leader that tells you to consider the consequences of your actions and words.
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Would you do literally anything Jesus tells you to? This is a serious question, by the way, not a joke.
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If you are trying to bait me into saying "yes" then come back with "would pluck out your eye or cut off your hand or 'make yourself a eunuch,' or hate your family?" that's not going to work because I understand proper methodology of interpretation. I know that "a text without context is a pretext for a proof-text" and if we take a text at "face value" and ignore context and the rest of Jesus' own teachings we could make a text mean almost anything (including a command to self mutilate and hate your family.)

I could into the proper interpretations and exegesis of each of those passages but I won't unless you ask.

With that in mind, my answer is: There is nothing that Jesus commands his followers to do that I find fault in. However, there are commands that Jesus gives that I struggle with almost to the point of rejection. For example:
"Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away."
That is hard because there is no modifier and it means "anyone who asks."
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It's not a bait question unless you are admitting that the words of Jesus are sometimes so vague they can be used to trap you.

I wasn't referring specifically to the self-mutilation verses, but they are a good example of my point. I understand that context matters, but I also believe there are places where the context is clear, yet people will still dance around it because it makes them uncomfortable, and they don't want to accept what the Bible clearly says.

The reason I asked the question is because there are things commanded by Jesus which are very difficult to reconcile with normal, rational, even decent behavior. And if you believe Jesus is your shepherd and you are supposed to follow him and do what he commands, it becomes clear to me that that can cause problems, when his commands clash with societal and personal standards of moral behavior.

I have talked to two different Christians who have told me that if they felt God was telling them to kill a person, they would do it, because they have to do what God says. These were not online discussions. They told this face to face. That is a very scary thought. If a Muslim told you that they would kill someone if Allah told them to, would that worry you? Would you think they aren't right in the head? Probably. I know I would. And it's no different when a Christian says it.

To put it bluntly, there is literally no act so horrendous, no atrocity so vile, and no behavior so reprehensible that somebody won't do it if they feel their god is commanding them to.

I respect that you acknowledge your hesitancy to obey some of his commands, like the one about giving to anyone who asks of you.
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The trap is in misunderstanding. The ambiguity and uncertainty is in the understandings of people. It is not in the words of Jesus unless you are specifically talking about his parables. He said that he taught in parables so that some would not be able to understand. Only those to whom it was given to understand those mysteries would be able to understand his parables.

I don't agree with you when you say, "there are places where the context is clear, yet people will still dance around it because it makes them uncomfortable, and they don't want to accept what the Bible clearly says." Because context starts at the level of the grammar of the words and sentence structure of a verse and goes through the passage - the chapter - the book - the Testament (Old or New) - up to the over arching narrative of the entire bible. Behind all of that is historical and literary context.

It more intricate than saying, "that is what it clearly says." That statement is the fallacy that I am often accused of called "cherry picking" because it leaves out such vital information. Doing that is one way people fall into misunderstanding, confusion, and false teaching. When a person says, "that is what it clearly says," that is how they can read in the Old Testament that homosexuals and rebellious children were to be stoned therefore somehow that is supposed to have bearing on the way I live my life today. That ignores multiple levels of context.

Christians are not supposed to act on our feelings: "if they felt God was telling them to kill a person." Many religious people use that as an excuse to fulfill their sinful desires: "it felt right" or "I felt God wanted me to do X." Christians are supposed to act on what is written and not "go beyond what is written." When it is properly understood in context of course. The difference between the Christian and the Muslim is that our Scriptures no where command us to murder anyone. So whoever told you that they would murder someone because of their feelings is wrong. That doesn't come from the bible and wouldn't come from God. God tells us to "leave room for his wrath" not to take matters into our own hands.

"...somebody won't do it if they feel their god is commanding them to," are you making a hasty generalization that because of a those two instances or even many instances of that behavior therefore all religious people are capable of that?
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"He said that he taught in parables so that some would not be able to understand. Only those to whom it was given to understand those mysteries would be able to understand his parables."

That makes him sound like a complete jerk. If you had lifesaving information, would you keep it from some people? Also, that sounds like the kind of esoteric babble that New Age people engage in.

"I don't agree with you when you say, "there are places where the context is clear, yet people will still dance around it because it makes them uncomfortable, and they don't want to accept what the Bible clearly says." "

An example would be slavery. Both the OT and NT clearly allow for owning slaves. That is unacceptable in modern society, so many Christians try to downplay, rationalize or outright deny the Bible's approval of it.

You are right when you say that context is very important. I don't deny that.

You can say that stoning rebellious children and gays is something you don't think we should do today, but you cannot deny that those laws were given by God. As easily as you feel justified in not obeying them, someone else could just as easily feel justified in obeying them for that very reason: God said it, that settles it.

"Christians are not supposed to act on our feelings: "if they felt God was telling them to kill a person." "

Abraham almost did. And Christians and Jews alike (and Muslims) regard him as a wonderful, faithful man...a guy who came close to murdering his child because he felt his god was telling him to.

Also, since you aren't God, you can't truly speak about what he tells other people to do. If I told you "God told a guy to kill someone", you might say "God would never do that". Then I say I was talking about Abraham, and I assume you would agree that God did in fact say that to him (as a test, I know, as if that makes it okay).

"The difference between the Christian and the Muslim is that our Scriptures no where command us to murder anyone."

Technically that's false. Deuteronomy 13 (which is OT, but still part of your scriptures) commands people to kill anyone who tries to lead them away to worship other gods.

"That doesn't come from the bible and wouldn't come from God."

And yet throughout the Bible, God did, on numerous occasions, command that people be killed.

Was I implying that all religious people are like the two I mentioned? Certainly not. But some of them are.
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"If a Muslim told you that they would kill someone if Allah told them to, would that worry you?"

What do you mean "if"? It's right there in the Koran, and has been for hundreds of years. The commandment on the treatment of the kafir (you and me) is exactly as follows :

1. Enslave and tax them.
2. Murder them.

It's all there in black and white. You can literally read it for yourself if you want to. Not that you will, because that might destroy the comfortable delusion you have so painstakingly crafted.

Can't have that, can we?
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What comfortable delusion? I've never once denied what the Koran says.

I was simply pointing out that the Bible also commands followers of god to kill anyone who tries to lead them away to worship other gods (Deuteronomy 13)

Thankfully, the vast majority of Muslims and Christians don't do what their book commands.
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"What comfortable delusion? I've never once denied what the Koran says."

You did with the inclusion of the word "if". That is denying the reality. Hence, the delusion - you want to pretend it's open to interpretation or doesn't exist. It does. In black and white. No room for interpretation.

You also have no clue between the old and new covenants in Christianity. Truly, you are arguing from a position of ignorance. Then again, that has never, ever stopped you before.

Carry on.
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When I said "if" I was referring to a hypothetical situation where a Muslim actually came up to you and said that to your face, not what the Koran says

So Christians can just ignore and disregard what is in the Old Testament? Good to know.
If not, then you tell me the difference.
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Quote : "If a Muslim told you that they would kill someone ***IF***Allah told them to, would that worry you?"

Good God. You don't even pay attention to what you write. There is no if, it was and is a commandment in no uncertain terms. If you seriously didn't know that, then you need to sit down and STFU. If you did know that and misrepresented it, then you need to sit down and STFU.

If you cannot comment from a position of knowledge, simply quit commenting. Period. End of Story. Full stop.
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You're right, I forgot about the second "if". My mistake.

Now back to my question: can Christians ignore what is in the OT?
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That link is dead my friend. Maybe these will help:
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I know I deleted it.
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You actually don't need an AR-15...

...When you have an AK-47!
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Yes! And bayonets make every gun (and crossbow, for that matter) even better!
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Well it's true. That gun is far too powerful for one person to have.
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Well, there are already millions of AR's in the hands of US citizens, so what do you propose should be done about them?
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Literaly every american has the weakest gun in Fortnite Battle Royale XD
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Because if someone saw an AR-15 in action killing his/her friends, they're obviously parroting what the Leftist Media told them to parrot.
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But... why DOES someone need to own an AR-15?
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Re-post from further up the thread:
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It is not about "needs" plus there are other reasons.
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you again! not only you downvoted my meme (shown by SlimPickens) you are also doing it to other ppl. If you have nothing nice to say/write. Keep it in ur brainless mind! How old are you, 2? I'm not even teen and I already learned my manners.
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He has been trolling me for a while. I don't even reply to him. He probably opened this account to give upvotes to his main account and when I would not reply to his main account due to his obnoxious behavior he started trolling me with his "alt account."
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How does he/she even do it? If I were him, I'd be so ashamed I'd crawl into a hole and die. ?wonder what his real account name is... (the main one) Hes also cheating, then. And cyberbullying
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They probably have to separate tabs open for imgflip: one with their main account the other for their troll account. They are what are known as "alt using trolls." They use their alt account to give their own memes more upvotes and give other memes more downvotes. If a meme gets too many downvotes it goes from 'featured' back to 'submitted' so it is no longer visible to everyone.

I don't know for sure what the main account is. But I have an idea because there are at least two people I have told that I would never reply to them again because of their abusive language and trolling: jackhenoff or laonsite

This ribeyeluvr troll "talks" just like jackhenoff.
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yikes tho you don't lose points when ur meme gets downvoted, right?
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I don't think you lose points as in they are taken away. But you do lose out on more points for that image because no one can see it and upvote it. They got two of my popular memes in one night last week. I don't think my points went down at all though.
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That is SO ANNOYING! Tho I believe there is more good than bad. We'll just have to support each other and ignore the bad guys... They are jealous of you, so thats why they are being mean.
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Can you report ppl or anything? Cuz that guy deserves to be kicked out/not allowed to use IMGFlip anymore.
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At the left side of the screen, if you are on a computer (I don't know about a mobile device) there is a "feedback" button. Here is a link:
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I have tried this feature a couple of times to report abusive users but nothing has happened. I don't know if the admins have it for that purpose. I have heard of other trolls being banned or shutting down their accounts but I don't know how it happens.
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Nevermind this guy, just another troll...
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I bet if you made a meme it would suck.... a lot. trust me=D
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no, I'm having sweet dreams
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