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15 ups, 1 reply
Going to the front page.
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10 ups, 1 reply
we shall see!
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15 ups, 3 replies
This is the dumbest debate I've seen in my entire lifetime on this planet. The idea that this is even up for debate is very telling. Flat earthers are cavemen dragging their knuckles on the ground looking in the sky and believing they can almost touch it. Idiots.

All these tide pod eating, snowflakes who ignore actual science and believe the earth is flat.
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10 ups, 3 replies
I know that at least some flat-earthers are biblical literalist Christians who point to Bible verses to support their flat Earth belief. Why would you assume they are liberals/millennials?

Also, your whole first paragraph can also apply to people who don't accept common descent and evolution, or believe that Earth is 6,000-10,000 years old.
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11 ups, 1 reply
I didn't mention anything about liberals or millennials. I said tide pod eating snowflakes.

Also, there is actual evidence that the earth is not much older than 7,000 years old. Again, evolution is nothing but a theory. In order for evolution to be fact, it would have to be proven to be true. However, it has not been proven that evolution is real, so comparing the belief that the earth is 7,000 years old to the belief the earth is flat, isn't even close to the same thing. There is plenty of proof that the earth isn't flat.
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8 ups, 2 replies
True, you didn't specify liberals or millennials, by those are usually the groups that people are talking about when they mention eating tide pods or call them snowflakes.

I highly suggest you read this article:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation

The evidence for Earth being only 6,000-10,000 years old is nonexistent.

Continental drift disproves it
Lunar recession disproves it
Anthropology and archaeology disprove it
Ice cores disprove it
Dendrochronology disproves it
Geologic strata disprove it
DNA and genetics disprove it

To be blunt, the claim that Earth is only about 7,000 years old is as absurd as saying the Earth is flat. Can you (or anybody) go through every item in the above article and make them fit with a 7,000-year-old Earth, using scientifically tested and verifiable methods?

Saying that evolution isn't proven to be true because it's a theory is like saying that heliocentricity hasn't been proven because it's a theory, germ theory hasn't been proven because it's a theory, cell theory hasn't been proven because it's a theory, atomic theory hasn't been proven because it's a theory, the theory of relativity hasn't been proven because it's a theory, and plate tectonics hasn't been proven because it's a theory. A theory in science is a model which explains a whole bunch of observed phenomena. It isn't just a guess or speculation. It has mountains and mountains of evidence to support it. In fact, if there were no evidence to support it, it would never have attained the level of theory in the first place.
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5 ups, 1 reply
But unlike those theories you mention, the earth being a sphere is not a theory. It’s a proven fact. Just like the fact that the earth revolves around the sun instead of the other way around — which flat earthers believe is the case to explain how there is night and day.
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2 ups, 1 reply
The Earth going around the sun is both a theory and a fact. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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3 ups, 1 reply
I believe since it’s proven, it’s not a theory, or maybe hypothesis is the better term.
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I think something in science can only reach the level of theory or law. For the most part, science almost never deals with 100% certainty, since ideas can always be overturned in light of new evidence.
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I was going to read this comment and the reply line but I remembered I can't read 9123904871984732149803721 words in a day
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1 up, 3 replies
Well, then enjoy knowing that smelly apes are related to you. Science is just another testament to God.
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Good point, because fact is humans are naturally far smellier. More sweat glands, with the greatest concentration in areas with the longest body hair designed to capture said sweat so it can ferment nicely as it dries, concentrating it so it can waft nicely through the air to attract potential mates.

This was an adaptation to the amphibious life lead by the aquatic ape, which, as you already pointed out, bears a striking resemblance to you.

Wonder which Gods they were made in the image of?
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What an absurd thing to say. Darn it, you're right. I don't want to be related to smelly apes, therefore evolution isn't true. So something being unpleasant means it isn't true?

Science cannot prove or disprove God, so you're wrong there as well.
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So if science can't disprove nor prove there is a God. He doesn't exist? I for one have seen and heard miracles that come from prayer. I have Faith that he does exist.
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I feel an argument about to begin...
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I said that science cannot prove or disprove God. I didn't say that that means he doesn't exist.

Countless other people from other religions would say that they've seen miracles as well. Do you believe that their religions are also correct?

Also, someone can have faith in anything. That doesn't mean it's true. I can have faith that I'll win the lottery. That doesn't mean I will. I can have faith that unicorns exist. That doesn't mean they do.
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4 ups, 2 replies
I like flat earth Christians. Heaven is above us and hell below us. At least they're consistent.
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That's literally what ancient people believed :)
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Since Earth is round, the heavens are all around us. It's just perspective that heaven is "above" us, because we are all on the surface of the world (except those in deep space).

As for evolution, I got funny memes(copy and paste into your address bar):
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/73/ee/af73ee866706a3987c3a934c873bed9c.jpg

https://forthesakeofscience.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/billo-meme-2.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/HEoEpg0.jpg
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:)
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Actually, most of them are milennials. They're jus stealth parodists who only claim to believe that stuff because they think it's funny.
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I'm sure that is true for some of them, but I know they can't all be saying it as a joke. Some actually do believe it. How many actually believe it versus don't? Who can say.
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I actually feel that the human race is devolving. It’s been too long without Darwinism
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U go to front, now!
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9 ups
Ill just leave this here for flat earthers so they can stop just stop
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Lol, I could make these all day... X D
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7 ups, 1 reply
Education has been compromised to be all inclusive.
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WARNING:

This meme contains the one crucial point that shall mark the end of Flat Earthers.
Congratulations, NickHanauer.
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6 ups
jokes on you flat earthers
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This meme has a great point and it made me grin!
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5 ups, 1 reply
I don’t get it ._.
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If the Earth were actually flat (which it isn't), it would be daytime everywhere simultaneously
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1 up, 2 replies
I thought the flat earth model looks like this: https://i1.wp.com/www.dailygrail.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/flat-earth.jpg?resize=759%2C500&ssl=1

So in that model, it only revolves above Earth, so if flat Earth was true, you'd still be able to see the sun at night, just like you can see a light bulb far away even when it's not illuminating where you are. http://i.imgur.com/CHSpwlC.png

Since the moon according to flat earth model, is in the same orbital path, there would be no lunar eclipses because nothing on the flat earth model is between the sun and moon. https://i0.wp.com/flatearthdeception.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/sun-moon-lunar-eclipse.gif?resize=600%2C600
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You do understand that I’m not a flat earth believer. No need to convince me :)
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"Modda
To claim what you posted are "facts" IS contradictory to logic."

CLtheman1, nice to see you deleted and reposted minus the pretentious:

"TRIGGER WARNING: Facts and logic ahead"

For a newb who out of the blue thought they can harrass me on some 8 month old meme and continue eleswhere and get away with, you sure are a little on the 'sensitive side'
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2 ups, 1 reply
"For a newb who out of the blue thought they can harrass me on some 8 month old meme and continue eleswhere and get away with, you sure are a little on the 'sensitive side'"
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READ IT, you rude little emo boy. YOU started up with me AGAIN, days later for no reason yet again, did you not?
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1 up, 1 reply
Face it, you wanna troll me. But really you're wasting your precious time on little old me.
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You wanted me to troll you. Sought me out, called me stupid for calling a REAL troll with multiple alts which he uses to harrass newbs stupid after he called another stupid.
You didn't even read the entire exchange between me and him.

DO IT.

Then check his profile.

Then check mine.

I've been mellow for near a year here, getting a bit slack even.

Now you brought me back,
Even starting up again AFTER I let you alone that night.
And you're telling me NOW you don't want to play?
That's Ok, guy, you don't have to.

But as for me?

We've

only

just

begun.
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While you were sending me your little rage fits, I was too busy making this long post, WITH EVIDENCE! I just like screenshotting it when it first happened.

"You wanted me to troll you. Sought me out, called me stupid for calling a REAL troll with multiple alts which he uses to harrass newbs stupid after he called another stupid.
You didn't even read the entire exchange between me and him."
LOL... Wat? Okay...

1. I didn't want you to troll me. What kind of person likes to be trolled??

2. I wasn't looking for you, but I saw you were calling a nerd stupid. I assumed it was because they wrote you a whole "essay" length post. In my post I said I didn't mean to insult you, and that's that. If you can't take my sincerity, I just don't know.

3. Nothing justifies attacking me by following my comments and dragging the issue into other pages, such as this one. Oh, I checked the other person's profile and didn't see anything because I checked it the lazy way. Congratulations on trying to blame AnotherWorldView, me, and not taking any responsibility for your own actions!
Here's a quote regarding revenge: "Weak people revenge, strong people forgive, intelligent people ignore."

4. Let's face it, I disagreed with you, and you got all upset and started harassing me on different pages such as this one. Do you know what an intolerant liberal is? How old are you, exactly?(Don't have to answer that.) I used to be just like you, not wanting people to have opposing opinions. I was an intolerant liberal, too! But I've gone through some things and I've deleted some negative, self-limiting beliefs. I'm no longer an intolerant liberal. What about you?
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1 up, 1 reply
Yeah, just like I said.

Now scroll above and read, you silly child.
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0 ups, 1 reply
You calling me names and following my comments to have the conversation...is understandable (it took a while then I got an impression that the guy who started it was the guy who started it). Desperate times call for desperate measures. But, you calling me names and all that was exactly why I was very reluctant and resentful towards you... Don't do that again.

But I went back and saw a trigger warning(or a few) in his post that is really provocative. Go back to the origin point and and see.
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Your father, your fellow gamers - they were wrong. You just plain ol'tarded, ain'tcha, son?

Got an idea. Since you and the that ultra-lefto muja lover feel so threatened by my harmful words, why don't you accompany him here to kill me like he threatened to do on that meme (and others. That's not the one where he used the pic of some Habib MMA fighter pretending to be him, is it?)? Society must be protected.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Okay so what if I make a mistake? So what if I'm a noob? So what if I'm sensitive?
A quote I like: "To keep silent when we should protest makes cowards of men."
There's no edit button. I was about to thank you for pointing it out but I don't know. You really do like to waste your life on another's to point out their mistakes, don't you?
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Did it not ever occur to that pretentious wannabe psuedo-intellectual little speshul snowflake noggin of yours that maybe, just maybe, you were right?

I AM an idiot.

I AM a troll.

I AM going to waste MY time proving YOU right,,,,
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To claim what you posted are "facts" IS contradictory to logic.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Thats exactly the same thing I thought. Until I saw the moon during the day...Im still trying to figure out why it wasnt a full moon when the sun was shining directly on it's whole full entire side
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https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/moon/full-moon-daytime.html
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https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/moon/full-moon-daytime.html
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0 ups, 1 reply
Ummm....bra....this says it shoukd appear full looking. Thats what im saying. Why isnt it appearing full looking during the day?
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It does.
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0 ups, 1 reply
No. Pay attention next time you see the moon during the day, when the sun is up. Then look at the shape of the moon.
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It can look full...or not. Not sure why you're perplexed. Same rules apply to lights and shadows during day or night.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/54049/why-can-we-sometimes-see-moon-during-day
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0 ups, 1 reply
Here's a video of a partially lit moon during the day. It is not a full moon. Most people never even stop to notice and think about it. https://youtu.be/uiboaMUdmo4
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http://mentalfloss.com/article/54049/why-can-we-sometimes-see-moon-during-day

Because light and science and stuff.
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nice
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I honestly believe that. If I'm really drunk or stoned, I can get down with down flat earth nonsense, but it's mostly just a "what if" fantasy.
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I am sure that some are but I have encountered those who have an almost religious zeal about how they present it. Those are the ones who use misinterpreted and misapplied biblical texts to "prove" FET.
Those are the ones I really dislike, as I am a Christian and take very serious proper interpretation and application of Scripture.
Sine I know a lot about other "theories" I know that I can whip people into a frenzy (troll hard) with some of the stuff I know about, so yes there are some trolls in the FET camp. But too many of them are like hard core zealots.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Most are, but many aren't. I myself am undecided on the matter, but I'm looking into ways that the shape of the earth can be proven from ground level by the average person. Many flat-earthers hold to zetitic philosophy (characterized by an extreme emphasis on that which can be personally verified, as opposed to blindly trusting scientific authorities), and thus many will continue to be unconvinced until they can prove it round for themselves.
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what about the computational device (computer, tablet, phone) you are using to reply to me? do you believe there are microscopic elves working magic inside, or do you have engineering knowledge enough that you know that computers are not magic? What if it is magic, and the computational power is tapping into the energy source of the souls of dead people?

The problem with knowledge, is that it limits imagination. If you yourself could prove (for yourself) that the earth was flat, to what end? Power, fame, sense of worth?

If you own a car, do you need to understand how the engine works in order to drive it? My lack of belief that a car runs on gas does not eliminate it's need for gas, nor does ones lack of belief in thousands of years of scientific study eliminate the workings of the universe.
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I honestly don't know exactly how a computer works. I know how to work with basic electric circuits, and I know some of the theory behind code. As to how electronic circuits translate into worlds of information and audio-visual output, I am genuinely amazed. I do not, however, think that computers run on magic.

I do not see knowledge as a limit to imagination, but as a resource for it (although I'm not sure what that has to do with the shape of the earth). If I prove for myself the shape of the earth (whether it is flat or round), it will be for my own interest and for peace of mind.

I agree that beliefs and opinions do not change reality. That is a prerequisite for any serious discussion on what is true and what isn't. People who hold to the flat earth theory do not think that believing it is flat makes it so (at least I hope they don't), but rather are of the opinion that the majority of scientific research on the matter has simply been wrong.

If you don't mind, I would like to clarify my position. I do not know what shape the earth is. I have found respectable claims of evidence on both sides of the debate, and I intend to find out for myself what is true. I am not entirely a zeticist, but I do lean somewhat in that direction. I respect the research of others and the work they do, but I like to double-check things for myself, too.

If you think listening to flat-earthers being stupid is frustrating from where you are right now, try standing in the middle some time and hearing the fallacies from both ends.
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I am 18 years young, and you are proving nothing by insulting me. For all we know, the flat earthers may be as wrong as it gets, but I myself have not conclusively proven them to be so. I don't want to claim to know something when I do not in-fact know it. That would be overconfidence and foolishness at best, and outright dishonesty at worst
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https://www.space.com/38931-kids-can-prove-earth-round.html
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0 ups, 3 replies
Eratosthenes's stick and shadow experiment has been accounted for in the modern flat-earth model (by claiming a nearby small sun).

The differences in the night sky between the northern and southern hemispheres can be explained by the laws of perspective.

The spherical planets prove nothing. All the baseballs in a baseball field are spherical, but the field is not.

I did not know about the light-refraction explanation for the Bedford Level Experiment. That is interesting and deserves some study. I might look further into it when I have the time.

The high-altitude balloon one is actually very funny, because it's the test that I see most often being done by flat-earthers. They post pics and videos showing a perfectly flat horizon that is always at camera-level, and then say that the videos with curved horizons are taken with fish-eye lenses. Ultimately, the ease of Photoshop and other editing programs makes second-hand photographic evidence useless for either side. I might consider doing this test for myself one day, though.
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https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round
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The thing to remember about science is that scientific authorities don't ask you to just blindly trust them. They ask you to look at the evidence and data that is available. It's not like scientists come to conclusions, then just hide all the evidence and research and say "okay, we did the research, now just take our word for it". Anyone with the proper equipment can duplicate their experiments for themselves whenever they want, as often as they want.
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2 ups, 1 reply
This is too much fun reading comments with people yelling at each other.
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Yep.
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While this is indeed funny, it's based on a strawman argument. Most modern flat-earth theories propose a much closer and smaller sun with limited range.

I myself am not entirely sure of the flat earth theory, but I do not enjoy seeing logical fallacies on either side of any debate
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6 ups, 1 reply
Wouldn't a smaller and closer sun grow dimmer as you move away from it? No matter how far you move on the Earth, the sun (in a clear sky) never grows any brighter or dimmer.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Unless I'm mistaken, it is dimmer at sunset and sunrise (which is consistent with both flat and round theories). That said, this would be a genuinely interesting thing to look into.
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I think it only appears dimmer closer to the horizon because there's more dust in the air to block the sun out, just a tiny bit. That's just my guess.
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You know, it's this sort of assumption that something is already proven that gets in the way of real truth. There are enough valid arguments on both sides for me to say that the shape of the earth is up for legitimate debate. I intend to preform a couple tests for myself eventually to verify the matter one way or the other.
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Here's the only valid argument you need.
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Lol. Elitist propaganda
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5 ups, 2 replies
No, there really aren't " enough valid arguments on both sides"

We have been to space. We have seen the earth from space. EVERY other body (planet, moon and sun) in our solar system is spherical.

Go due east (or west) and you end up where you started while never turning.

There is no reason to even entertain (outside of a huge joke, which I am leaning towards the whole flat earther movement is....some sort of Andy Kaufman level joke) the notion of a "flat earth"
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For the whole "been to space" thing, the number of people involved is actually very small, and the vast majority of them are connected to government agencies and/or secret societies. Even if it is true, it will never be effective in convincing true flat-earthers (who usually distrust governments)

The "every body in our solar system is spherical" argument holds no water in any way. It starts with the assumption of the very point it is trying to prove (by stating that we live in a "solar system"), thus making it a circular argument.

Circumnavigation is still possible on a flat earth if one proposes that the north pole is the middle of the earth, and that Antarctica is a ring around the edge. In such a scenario, east & west are the equivalents of clockwise and counterclockwise.

I agree that many within the flat-earth community are most-likely joking, but there are also a great deal many who are serious. If nothing else, proving the flat-earth theory will allow our government to save a lot of the money that is being wasted on NASA.

I understand that the mere idea that people could be serious about such a thing can be rather frustrating. I myself was massively confused when I heard about it. However, if you really want to disprove it, then I would recommend looking into ways that the curvature of the earth (or lack thereof) can be proven by an average person. One popular test is the Bedford Level Experiment, which many people on both sides claim as a proof. Obviously, the people on one side or the other either miscalculated or lied about their results, but a simple recreation of the test can prove whether or not the earth is flat. I intend to preform the test for myself one day.
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If someone doesn't want to believe what astronauts say because they have ties to the government, that's not the astronauts' problem, it's the problem of the person refusing to listen to them. Nor does it in any way, shape or form disprove that the Earth is round. The ancient Greeks discovered that Earth was round. Were they part of a top secret US government conspiracy funded by NASA and controlled by the Illuminati?

That planets are round is not an assumption, it is a proven fact. Also, that planets orbit the sun is also a fact, not an assumption.

If Antarctica is a ring around the edge, where is the photographic proof? Whenever I ask this, people always resort back to insane conspiracy theories about secret armies or government agents that prevent people from getting too close. What absolute nonsense.
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I am going to guess based on the structure of your post that you are very frustrated by flat-earthers. I myself was very frustrated too when I first learned that people try to debate something so basic. However, the claim that something is already a proven fact does not in fact prove anything. If you are truly so dead-set on arguing against flat-earthers, please refine your approach. If you would simply show some respect and treat the matter like the legitimate intellectual debate that it is, I feel that you would encounter far better results.

Also, the ancient Greeks never proved the earth was round. A handful of them theorized it was, but never proved it. If you are referring to the shadow-measuring experiment devised by Eratosthenes, then the phenomenon he based his experiment on can be alternatively explained by the flat-earth theory as shown in this video (read the description, too) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DdlhJJRw9c
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I'm frustrated by people who talk about a proven fact as if it's still up for debate. They create this phony claim that it's still up for discussion and we don't really know for sure whether the Earth is flat or not.

"However, the claim that something is already a proven fact does not in fact prove anything."

The claim does not prove anything, but the overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence does.

"If you would simply show some respect and treat the matter like the legitimate intellectual debate that it is, I feel that you would encounter far better results."

I try to refrain from insults, but when dealing with an issue like this, sometimes keeping a cool head is difficult. But it's not a "legitimate intellectual debate". That implies that we don't know yet.

I watched the video you linked me to, but I'm not sure what it was supposed to show. It was just an animation of two short sticks and some moving shadows.

But I'm upvoting your comment for reminding me to be respectful. Thank you.
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Thank you for being respectful and explaining your position. I really do sympathize with you on how keeping a cool head can be difficult, as it is a challenge I often face myself.
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That's actually something I meant to tell you as well: thank you for always being polite and respectful in your comments.
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Remember, the ball earth and entire solar system models are like flat earth: they are both theories. No one that believes the ball earth theory can explain the lack of curve over water. Like the Bedford canal experiment or the ability to see oil rigs in the ocean 20 miles away when according to the official size and curve of the earth, they should be well beneath the horizon. Bear in mind the same people that told us the federal reserve is good also write the text books.
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The federal reserve has absolutely nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.

There is a curve to the oceans' waters, by from our perspective on land, at sea level, we can't see it. Look at a photo of the Earth from space and look at the Pacific Ocean. There is clearly a curve visible when viewed from that far above the Earth.

Also, light bends, so things which actually are over the horizon can sometimes be visible.
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No sh!t sherlock. I said, "The same people that told us the federal reserve is good also write the text books." I didn't say the fed had anything to do with the shape of the earth. Looking at photos of the earth from space...they all appear different. One shows the north american continent much bigger in scale compared to the relative size of the earth. The next photo the size is different. More proof that these images are made up. It still doesn't explain how you can see an oil rig 50 miles out or Chicago from across the lake when both should be well below the horizon according to the earth curve per mile equation. Nir does it explain the Bedford level experiment. Dont you think it's peculiar why we need over 250 transatlantic undersea cables and how much a threat it is considered to be if an enemy cuts one of them? Check out some of the laser experiments shot over water that show a lack of curve. Do you know what a plumb bob is? Builders use it for verticle level. Its a pointed weight hung by a string. Once still the center point below the weight is exactly level below the poibt from which its hung, and so is the entire string. So your telling me that if I hang 2 of these side by side that the distance between them is greater at the top than at the bottom? No. My point about the federal reserve is about how easily the manipulate society. Before the fed existed, our money had value because it was backed by sonething of value: gold. Not any more. Do some resesrch on that, you may learn something and expand your manipulated mind. Peace
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Continents may appear different sizes in photographs if those photographs are taken from different angles or perspectives. If I stand a 6' y'all person next to a 5' 10" y'all person and take one photo facing them straight on and another at a low angle next to the 5' 10" person, the shorter person can easily appear taller in the photo because of the perspective.

As far as the plumb bob thing, if both plump bobs are hung from a level beam, the strings holding them up would be perfectly parallel, because what they are hanging from is level and even.
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12:00PM is the midpoint of the day. It's literally impossible for it to be 12:00PM in a location and have the sun be on the other side of the planet.
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Your correct. Your failing to understand because your close minded and already determined the shape of the earth. That meme is saying this: take a tennis ball or other ball and hold it next to a lamp. The lamp represents the sun and the ball represents the earth. Now mark the side of the ball thats lit as 12 noon. We know the ball turns a complete 360 degrees in 24 hours to complete a day. And every day that goes by the ball moves just a little bit around the lamp. In 6 months the ball will have moved 180 degrees. But the side that is marked noon will now be in the dark. Impossible. This is just one example of how difficult the simple truth is to see and understand when you've been taught a lie your entire life. Cognitive dissonance is a b!tch ;)
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Read the meme. Read the words and think
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Space: a hollywood set, deep in a pool. Filmed in front of a green screen. Maybe one day we will figure out how to safely pass through the high radiation Van Allen Belt. When that happens, then we will be able to go to the moon.
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I used to believe what I was told about the Van Allen radiation belt making travel to the moon too dangerous to attempt, until I heard Van Allen himself debunk that idea.

To add to my comment above: the idea that the Earth is flat and the idea that the Earth is a globe are not on equal scientific footing. They don't have equal amounts of evidence in support of them. The evidence, overwhelmingly, without a doubt, points inescapably to a globe Earth.
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here. read this: https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round
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Here's the thing: a ball of light with limited range is physically impossible. It would need to either have a lampshade or bend all known rules of how light works.
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Most flat earthers do in-fact think it is a more directed light source (i.e. "lampshaded").
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That we can't see or have any evidence of?
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Not unless we get above it
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So because we can't prove that the sun doesn't have a lampshade, people think it does. Got it.
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Some people in the flat earth community really are that stupid, but not all make such logical fallacies.
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Others completely ignore thousands of years of scientific discovery.
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That my friend is merely an appeal to authority fallacy. You obviously disagree with the flat-earth theory, so I would challenge you to rationalize your disagreement and actually prove it wrong. If it is so clear as you believe, then this will be incredibly easy.

For me, I've looked at all the lists of "ways to prove the earth is round", and found most of them lacking. Look up the Bedford Level Experiment. It is claimed as proof by both sides, making it a form of disputed evidence, but it is easy to replicate with the right location and a few calculations. I will do it for myself when I get the chance, and then I'll finally know for certain the shape of earth.

Whether it is flat or round doesn't much matter to me, but there is so much blatant stupidity and overconfidence on both sides. On a theoretical level, both models are possible. Both models can explain natural phenomenon such as falling, day-night cycles, seasons, etc.. I want to see people debating the matter properly, and more often than not, that means correcting the strawman arguments people make against the flat-earth theory. When I see flat-earthers commit to fallacies, make no mistake that I am just as willing to call them out. (there just aren't as many flat-earthers as there are round-earthers, so I encounter arguments for a round earth more often)
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"That my friend is merely an appeal to authority fallacy. You obviously disagree with the flat-earth theory, so I would challenge you to rationalize your disagreement and actually prove it wrong. If it is so clear as you believe, then this will be incredibly easy."

That's not an appeal to authority fallacy. It would have been an appeal to authority fallacy if they said "Earth is round because Neil deGrasse Tyson says it's round." They simply pointed out that hundreds of years of scientific research, data and evidence points inescapably to the Earth being round.

Also, I don't think both models are possible. The flat earth idea seems to violate known physics.

You say you want to see people debate the matter properly, yet there is no debate. It's a settled issue. The earth is not flat. Period.
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I accept your correction that me claiming an appeal to authority fallacy was inaccurate. In fact, I must thank you for giving me the refined definition of that fallacy.

As for the matter being settled, I must respectfully disagree. Even if it is settled, the fact remains that many still disagree, and your method of simply dismissing the matter is very ineffective. Saying you are right does not prove that you're right, even if you're right.

I enjoy debates and discussions. I will gladly continue this dialogue if you want to do so, but I would like to politely ask you to take this seriously and bring some real evidence and reasoning. I would genuinely appreciate being able to settle this matter and finally make up my mind on what I think is true about the shape of the earth, but I cannot do so when all I have to go on is some supposedly great wealth of evidence that is claimed but never presented. It would save me the trouble of finding a long stretch of water to measure and test for curvature.
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Ok. For me to prove it would involve a lot of ranting about zeniths, curvature tests, and other common sphere proving methods, so I won't put you through that. Instead, I will give you one point. In the flat earth model, the sun rotates in a perfect circle at the same elevation around the north pole. However, that is simply not true. A time lapse of the sun in the north pole would show that it goes up and down in a sinusoidal wave almost. If this was taken into a flat earth model, then the sun would literally burn some people alive. I don't know about any proof that it's not the center of the universe that isn't literally going up into space, though. I do remember a video, though, that showed the absurd movements of planets in a geocentric geocentric model if it were to line up with what we actually see, but I don't remember where I found it.
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"I accept your correction that me claiming an appeal to authority fallacy was inaccurate. In fact, I must thank you for giving me the refined definition of that fallacy."

You're welcome. I respect when someone acknowledges when they made a mistake.

"Even if it is settled, the fact remains that many still disagree..."

Just because some people may disagree, that doesn't mean a settled issue is not a settled issue. Some people disagree with the fact that the Holocaust heppened. That doesn't change the fact that it did happen.

"...and your method of simply dismissing the matter is very ineffective. Saying you are right does not prove that you're right, even if you're right."

That's true.

"I enjoy debates and discussions. I will gladly continue this dialogue if you want to do so, but I would like to politely ask you to take this seriously and bring some real evidence and reasoning. I would genuinely appreciate being able to settle this matter and finally make up my mind on what I think is true about the shape of the earth, but I cannot do so when all I have to go on is some supposedly great wealth of evidence that is claimed but never presented. It would save me the trouble of finding a long stretch of water to measure and test for curvature."

Unfortunately I'm not a scientist, so I don't have the data personally to give you. But many, many scientists who study these things for a living, would be happy to provide all the evidence you ask for. If you do some research online you will find authors and researchers who can answer your questions better than I can. Or go to a good university in your area and talk to someone in the astronomy or geology department. I think they would be delighted to explain these things to you.

From reading your comments, I truly believe you care about what's true. I hope you investigate further and find out what is true regarding this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhp-FTYSGe8

Video that explains how the moon landing couldn't have been faked and thus is the ten millionth (and counting) bit of evidence that the Earth is not flat.
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I thought there would be a comment war going on here... and I was more or less correct.
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The Nuremberigans don't hang anyone, unless they would've had him before" (old German saying).
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Um, the flat earth still rotates? =P
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The nightmares, man. The nightmares!
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https://www.facebook.com/CymaticUniverse/videos/1975203072768470/
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I made this a few months ago: imgflip.com/i/1xvgp5 Note, in particular, the fourth comment down.
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Yikes, it's sad and scary to see how quickly that devolved.
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:)
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Meanwhile in Florida...
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The sun is a star, not a planet, Pluto is no longer a planet and the earth is round.

That's my valid argument. Refrain from denying it.
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Ugh. Flat earthers are so dumb!
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