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Controversial food for thought | I don't get it. A few guns were used to kill a few people, so we have to get rid of them ALL. A few illegal aliens kill people and we have t | image tagged in angry toddler | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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6 ups, 1 reply
The answer to BOTH issues is to enforce the laws we already have. When genuine attempts are being made to enforce those (neither can be enforced 100%), then we can talk about changing laws. But why should we make new laws when current ones are being ignored.
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2 ups, 1 reply
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3 ups, 1 reply
An AR is literally just a regular rifle with some scary-looking paint.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Ok. Fluffy bunnies are the most common gun for self defense.
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0 ups, 1 reply
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No, seriously. Look it up. They've surpassed shotguns.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Actually, not just a few illegal aliens kill people, A LOT DO. Hundreds of gangs, thousands of druggies and criminals, and other such people sneak over the border every year. And the ones that don't do stuff like that just steal peoples identities and bring down America's economy.
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3 ups, 1 reply
So literally 100% of illegal aliens are either gang members or identity thieves?
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0 ups, 1 reply
I never said, that, you are putting words in my mouth. I said A LOT DO! They are bringing down our economy and should go back to their country! GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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0 ups, 1 reply
You said a lot of them are gang members, druggies and criminals, and the ones that aren't "just steal peoples identities". That sounds like you're saying 100% of them are either one or the other.
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0 ups, 1 reply
About 99% of them bring down our economy, and the ones that don't are cutting in front of people that actually want to come in legally, making the hard working ones that want to come legally wait up to twenty years to come in. So yes, 100% of them are doing something bad one way or the other.
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0 ups, 1 reply
I sure you have actual numbers and statistics to back up that absurd claim of 99%?
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According to a government website named FAIR.com, "At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million illegal aliens, and about 4.2 million citizen children of illegal aliens. That amounts to a tax burden of approximately $8,075 per illegal alien family member and a total of $115,894,597,664. The total cost of illegal immigration to U.S. taxpayers is both staggering and crippling. In 2013, FAIR estimated the total cost to be approximately $113 billion. So, in under four years, the cost has risen nearly $3 billion. This is a disturbing and unsustainable trend. The sections below will break down and further explain these numbers at the federal, state, and local levels." Do some research.
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1. fair.com is a car sales website. Try again. Did you mean fair.org? Because that isn't a government website. It belongs to a right-wing group that claims to expose media bias.

2. None of those numbers you provided back your claim that 99% of illegal immigrants are dragging down the US economy. Do illegal immigrants have a negative impact on the economy? Yes, in some areas. But you claimed that 99% of them are doing that, which you never proved to be the case.
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A very tiny, extremely slim minority of society is insane, all the warning signs there and the government that is supposed to be there to protect us fails at every level. But the killer used guns, so all guns are the problem.

Meanwhile, we have muslims for instance running over people with trucks and going on other killing sprees. Still a small percentage sure, but not only do people do the exact opposite of "BAN ALL MUSLIMS", there is a significant amount of polled muslims that are neutral or supportive of such attacks. So wtf.
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2 ups
Just counting the 7 mass shootings since October 2017.
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1 up, 1 reply
This isn't food for thought this is a giant leap. Both are issues, we can't just pick and choose what issues we solve in this country. The only reasons why guns are top priority is because they have a higher death count, and I'm sure you know this but conveniently left it out.
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4 ups, 3 replies
Abortion kills more every year than guns, and I'm sure you know this but conveniently left it out.
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2 ups, 1 reply
At what point did I mention abortion?
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4 ups, 1 reply
At what point did I say you mentioned abortion?
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0 ups, 3 replies
"Abortion kills more every year than guns, and I'm sure you know this but conveniently left it out." your words in response to mine.
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2 ups, 1 reply
He just said you left it out. He didn't say you brought it up.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Yeah and at what point was it relevant to the discussion? Abortion is not an issue, for all you know all the parties involved consent to the ordeal, and nobody sentient dies. It is in no way comparable to gun violence and illegal immigration. A complete non-sequitur.
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0 ups, 1 reply
What makes you you? Your soul? That's what I believe.
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0 ups, 5 replies
You can't prove that you and you can't determine what is sentient and what isn't, your opinion has no weight in an argument.
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0 ups, 1 reply
You can't prove it either, so your opinion has no weight in an argument.
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Exactly! ABORTION IS INCONSEQUENTIAL so why the f**k are we talking about it? Go***mn, you give me aneurysms. The discussion is about gun control, why are you comparing gun violence to abortion, you baboon!
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0 ups, 1 reply
Do unborn babies have minds? Science points toward that fact.
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Just because you have a mind doesn't mean you are sentient, science is certain that fetuses can't feel stimuli. A fetus is just like a corpse, it may have a brain, but it isn't sentient.
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You didn't answer my question still. What makes you you, if not your soul?
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I would say your cognitive function like science points to, the problem is that scientists still don't know what consciousness is, and do you know why? Because scientists don't pull shit out of their asses and present it as fact.
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0 ups, 1 reply
So your body and mind? Physical things like that?
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Your mind, specifically, is what science points to.
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0 ups
So you believe in magic?
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2 ups, 2 replies
Dude you got p0wn3d hard by JohnDynamo, at your own game too. Just admit it and stop being a dushbag.
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0 ups
Douchebag, not "dushbag". Besides, I don't give a shit about your opinion seeing as how you can't spell.
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0 ups
no he didn't. You actually think that point is relevant and important to the conversation? It's just distracting from the argument and makes no effort beside to muddy the waters. But you seem perfectly satisfied with that. Bias much?
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0 ups
At what point did I say YOU mentioned abortion?
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0 ups, 2 replies
Abortion is legal. Shooting people with guns isn't.
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"if a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, but obligated to do so."
~Benjamin Franklin.
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0 ups
Really? So why are the police allowed to get away with it?
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0 ups
that is whataboutism. It's a non sequitar that makes no relevant point.
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1 up, 1 reply
yeah because comparing an inanimate object created to kill to an individual with rights is soooooo smart. You are obviously very intelligent and understand the world perfectly.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Not to kill a person, if you look at a old Ar-15 advertisment it says it's for sport, and I know a ton of people who either have one for hunting or just to look cool to their friends. Most people for self defense have either a shot gun or pistol. And a illigal really doesn't have any rights, at least not in the country they snuck into being they are here ILLEGALLY they shouldn't be treated like an honored guest, they should be sent back where they came from
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you don't really need one for hunting. plenty of other rifles that work just as well. I'm sure they would sell it as a sports weapon as it has no other reliable purpose, and they still want to sell them. Like the word Illegal removes the rights they should have as individuals. If Illegal meant they have no rights, why don't we just lock them all up and shove them into gas chambers? That will solve the problem of having to worry about them coming back over! SO sensible.
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Those aliens got their gun in the US, get it?
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They’re gonna ban guns in Florida by the time 2018-19 year rolls around
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That is because it's no longer "a few guns" or "a few people". Shooting happen 3 times in a given week nationwide, but they are becoming so common, they don't make the news anymore. Plus, Mexicans alone, are not lethal, guns are.
There's some good for thought.
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0 ups, 2 replies
Three times a week? Source or bullsh*t.

Every time I shoot my gun(s), no one dies (although some Homer Buckets get rendered useless for their intended purpose). So much for your "guns are lethal" theory.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Cut the sh*t, or course guns are lethal. They're WEAPONS. That's no "theory".
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Ok you're right, the average wasn't 3 a week. I re-checked my source, in a study over a period of 238 days, 247 shootings occurred, which goes into a weekly average of 7.26 shootings a week.
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And I never said that every time a shot is fired, someone dies, you just use all the shootings as a pathetic excuse to keep your gun(s) for "protection".
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Because one of those things is an object designed specifically for the purpose of killing things, while most of the people in the latter category are human beings struggling to make ends meet for their families. Who hurt you, and why are you devoid of basic human empathy?
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It just works-Todd howard
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3 ups, 3 replies
No one wants to get rid of guns ya fookin nob. They want to add hurtles tp acquisition fpr the last fookin time
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4 ups
The hurdles are already supposed to be there. There are supposed to be background checks and waiting periods. Fully automatic weapons are already illegal. Yet nobody is talking about better enforcement, they want NEW laws. And it gets frustrating when people who aren't knowledgeable of current laws are insisting on new ones.
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2 ups, 1 reply
They already added hurtles tp acquisition ya fookin nob. Hte probelm is nubode wanna enfource htem.
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3 ups
He was making fun of, and exaggerating the errors and slang of the comment he was responding to. Given that the original comment was barely comprehensible, exaggerating the errors made it worse.
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It's all those damn millennials have been protesting.
Nothing gives some people a bigger hard on than telling the government to take away our freedoms and place shackles on us!
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I don't get it. A few guns were used to kill a few people, so we have to get rid of them ALL. A few illegal aliens kill people and we have to make sure most get to stay with food stamps.
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