Third World Skeptical Kid

Very true!

Who needs intelligence agencies and security when you got a brain safe in Moscow?

*grabs shotgun* I am ready

Yep. And when you look at those who pay income taxes, there are far more people riding in the wagon, than there are of people pulling the wagon.

I was watching the news yesterday and a congresswoman was bashing Trump's new tax plan. By what she was saying I think she comes from a state that considers anyone not on some kind of state or federal program "rich."

In my country, everyone is on a program because George Osborne is taking all da jerbs

Redecks: dey terk our jerbs
Mexican: finders keepers

Not just Mexico... People from all over the world are taking jobs from Americans...

Especially illegal immigrants and weeaboos

She must be from Utah....everybody there is wealthy....or a self sufficient survivalist! :D

Then why hasn't the system collapsed?

Didn't he stabalize the dollar and strengthen it? Or was that his evil twin?

stabilize*

You mean by doubling the national debt?

Via TARP or 2 still continuing unpaid for wars? Ya betcha.
Although, as you know, under Obama such expenditures went down, as did the RATE of goverment spending - the most rapid decline since the end of WWII.

The rate huh? That sounds like someone was reaching for a way to make it sound like Obama was doing something right. The national debt doubled. Sounds to me like he just wasn't using government funds to do good for the country. I guess that counts as spending less.

You really don't know about who is responsible for ToxicAssetsReliefProgram and the 2 wars we've been fighting for closing in on 2 decades now?

CONGRESS sets the budget and decides on the hows and whats of spending. Not the President, which includes the current freak show in Office.

Ever hear of the Great Recession? Who prevented it from becoming the next, and Greatest, Depression?

Maybe look things up before babbling about what you don't know, which obviously you still haven't?

You realize preventing the Great Recession started with the Bush administration don’t you? The Obama administration policies slowed down the recovery by making more people dependent on government welfare instead of incentivizing businesses to hire more people.

How could that be true if our nation debt doubled?

And WWII was still a'happenin when Truman became President.

Great Recession. HIT THE GOOGLE SWITCH!

Does anyone in America have a memory not dictated to them by some loudmouthed, sweaty, metabolically challenged, pain meds addicted, 'non'-kkk *wink* imbecile screaming "FAKE MSM! FAKE MSM!" on YouTube?

It's called a brain. Use YOUR own, folks. The Good God of Light, Satan, gave us some pomegranate ta do so. He sacrificed his limbs for it even.

"Hey, so how's the weather over there today?"

"I dunno, lemme see what Alex Jones told me it is"

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It's to bad we didn't have 4 more years of your Muslim homie. Maybe then we could have seen an actual depression.

No. I addressed that already. He chaired the fastest growth since the end of WWII. Of course, recovering from the brink of a depression and from a war with our economy the only one in the world intact will yield 2 diff results.

AGAIN, Afgan, Iraq, and TARP. Those were at 1 trillion apiece when he entered office, and those wars continue to this day. The Stimulus, which added another trillion, was his baby, Saved yer job and all the cops, firemen, teachers, etc, where you live.

He never engaged us in the Syrian civil war at all. Not even drones.

Yes, by decimating Al Queda, he left a vacuum filled by former Iraqi generals and soldiers Bush abandoned after dismantling their army who then proceeded to start ISIL.

Carter froze all Iranian assets held in American banks in response to the Hostage Crisis, including that of private citizens (which was illegal for him to do so of the latter, btw). THAT was the money RETURNED to them, NOT US Gov't aid, THEIR pivate mullah.

He wired no such money. Pakistan has been a recipient of American aid since it's inception. Bush increased it under the guise of helpng us combat the Taliban, which is actually HQ'd in Pakistan and is a proxy army of them. Trump was suposed to cut this off, yes?

Ronald Reagan essentially created Al Queda by giving Bin Laden 1.5 billion $$ to do so as a proxy army against the Soviet invasion of Af*ganistan. The funding continued AFTER they left.

"A Mosque in Munich" - buy it, read it. The Nazis started the ball rolling as a tool to use against the USSR in WWII by destabalizing it's Central Asian Muslim satellites by stirring up nationalism and an Islamic fundamentalist identity/resurgence. They started the Islamic Brotherhood. Later, the US and the UK continued this as a bullwark against the spread of Socialism and Nasserism (Half of Yemen was Commie Republic, and Pres Nasser wanted to estbalish a pan-Arab state, which Egypt and Syria joined. We didn't want this).

WE started this. WE made them into terrorists for OUR purposes. Now WE reap what WE had sown. Ever wonder why there was no such terrorism prior? Yup.

(I wonder if those Muja defenders here might dare look it up, at least they'll learn the basis of what they pretend to claim. Funny, I argue with them, but I can make em dizzy with facts proving THEM right.)

Please check the NYSE growth over the last decade. To claim it made a huge jump just because someone was elected and before entering office is nonsense.

The largest economic growth since ww2. Jack that's just a lie. I won't blame you though fake news is everywhere. ;)
Once again, Bush was not a good president. Neither was Obama, so this blame Bush trip you're on has no bearing on the fact that Obama was just as bad, imo, worse.
Excuse me he gave Palestine a Farwell gift on his way out.
https://nypost.com/2017/01/24/obama-sent-palestine-221m-hours-before-leaving-office/
I was wrong, it wasn't Pakistan, it was much worse. :/
WE started this?! See this is where you and I have differing philosophies. I DIDN'T START ANYTHING. You can blame yourself if you choose, but I had nothing to do with supporting terrorism.
Shit. Hitler had it right, he wanted the jews extinct, Islam is the perfect philosophy to achieve this. Not to mention what plans he had for the Muslims after his final solution was achieved. :D
But you're beginning to get off topic, so if you could just sit still i can teach you something about basic economics.

Dont allow yourself to believe that obummers great economic know how finally caused a staggering bump IN NOVEMBER. The same month trump was inaugurated.
After every recession/depression the economy ALWAYS gets a little better. The slow economic growth we experienced during the Obama administration makes it seem like he had his foot on the break the entire time.
Try again Jack. <3

"No. I addressed that already. He chaired the fastest growth since the end of WWII. Of course, recovering from the brink of a depression and from a war with our economy the only one in the world intact will yield 2 diff results."

What part of, "recovering from the brink of a depression and from a war with our economy the only one in the world intact will yield 2 diff results." did you not understand?

Because of WWII, The industrialized world (and some not so industrialized) was decimated. Ours was untouched and booming.

Digging out from what almost the biggest depression ever is an entirely different thing.
Young Arnold Pumping Iron is a helluva a lot different from old fat Arnold trying to get in competition shape. Comprende?

Dismissing partisan politics only to continue by endorsing one and maligning the other is illogical.
Revisioning historical occurences along such party lines may suit a particular narrative with a vested interest, but it doesn't alter facts.

Me? I can argue against me better than anyone can. Being versed in multiple sides of an argument and being aware of its nuances and the reality that nothing is a lopsided chunk of chisled granite (except statues and masonry) is the only way to truly understand of things.

Obama didn't fire and rehire CIA and FBI agents.

Congress has been looking the other way on Trump's Executive Order popcorn machine fest, but since those have tended to gotten nixed by the courts, do you need me to explain how much the darkie ya loath could have gotten away with? Although he finally had to resort to threatening to do so just to get those useless farts to actually do their jobs.

The stock market dipped just last week.

Incentives to send jobs oversees has been a hallmark of Republican legistlation. Tax cuts, even grants to build factories and infrastructure to help out corporate bigwigs, you know, the benficiaries of the new tax bill.

I just calls em like I sees em jack.
He absolutely fired many intelligence officials and retrained them on how to not offend Islam. This is common knowledge.
Lol.
That's the deal. Establishment republicans are basically democrats.
Bill Clinton Nafta. Nuf said.
http://rense.com/general76/cclle.htm
I'll keep giving you charts and sources. You keep giving me CNN.:)

I'm going to get some sleep. I will concede that I'm happy we can have a conversation without to much animosity.
So thank you.

I don't know if you meant to reply to yourself but I just say this. Was wondering where you went.

I don't know what you're smoking, but Obama's economy was really really bad.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/02/obamas_economy_is_bad_clintons_would_be_worse_130445.html?_escaped_fragment_=

Afgan War - Bush
Iraq War - Bush
TARP - Bush
+ Propaganda aside, spending SKYROCKETS under Republican Presidents way higher than Democrats allegedly do (Look it up).
+ Bush Great Recession where the resulting failing economy meant less Gov't revenue

ALL that still has to be paid for, because to date, it STILL hasn't been in full.

+ Stimulus - Obama
+ Congressional spending budget

= Debt

Again, spending is determined by Congress, not the President, and to think that that n*BLEEP* hating do-nothing Congress that whose sole purpose over 2 terms was to say nay to everything Obama wanted sure as heckfire didn't let him spend any extra.

AKA: "Because maff is a thang"

First off Obama had the slowest economic rate of any president ever. And I do loove when people say, hey it's Obama's policies that allowed the stock market to skyrocket. It's laughable, because THEE day that trump was elected is when it went up up up and has not come down.
So don't try to pretend that Osama, I mean Obama's policies, all of a sudden, on the day trump is elected decided to work.
OBAMA'S ADMINISTRATION DOUBLED THE NATION DEBT IN EIGHT YEARS. That's not good. The debt under Obama grew 87%. He may have cut backed in some areas but he defiantly over spent in others.
The Syrian war. The one where he dropped a bomb every 20 minutes of his presidency. Do you still not understand hes a muslim and helped create isis.
Is that commonsense to you. Obama care is the main culprit though. His greatest accomplishment (besides letting men into womans bathrooms). You know the one where he lied through his teeth.
Increasing welfare payments to soften the blow of a GDP that was drained so dramatically, because of sending jobs overseas is minuscule compared to what Barack "Hussain" Osama has done.
How many times did Bush just hand over OUR gold and billions of dollars to Iran? That's a really good "cuttback." Or how about wiring Pakistan 250 million dollars right as he left office. Obama really knows how to work that budget. So let's not get started on hand out mm'kay.
Cutting federal employees. Ah yes. Like how Obama came in and fired pretty.much every fbi cia agent and replaced them. Also having them retrained by the Muslim brotherhood, teaching to be extra nice to dem muslims. I know more about Isis and terrorism then they do lol.

Don't make it seem like Congress was so mean to poor Obama. All he needed was a phone and a pen :).

And last thing about "parties." Starting this Republican this democrat that to try and prove points isn't going to work with me, I'm more conservative, because liberalism, today is a mental disorder. I'll vote Republican over democrat because the Democratic party seeks to replace Americans with foreigners. These are the people that force American citizens out of there apartment buildings to make room for illegal immigrants.
But I'm antiestablishment. I'm maga party.

So if the rate of government spending decreased, how does an administration, in only eight years out spend every single previous president combined, with out he rate of spending being increased. Or did that administration just buy bigger things?
Blaming Bush syndrome. It's a thing. With this logic we could just blame Clinton for Bush to the same degree.
Also Obama started his own wars.
If all this is true how do you explain the stock market jumping to record highs under trump?

A decrease in the rate doesn't mean spending stopped. Please refer to my previous statement.
There were cutbacks, some across the board. The Sequester ring any bells?
Federal employees were layed off by the tens of thousands. Expenditures in general were cut back. Because of the recession, there were more people on the welfare and foodstamps rolls. But remember how Bush increased how much in Foodstamps a person can receive in order to keep the suddenly poor middle classers fat who weren't used to be being poor like the trailer & ghetto trash that don't count? When that expired, it stayed expired.

The debt has gone up under every Administration since these United States became independent of the British Crown. Debt was briefly eliminated under Andrew Jackson (because of the mass sell-off of Native lands), but the spending that followed crashed our economy nice n good.
Reagan's was the first to hit a trillion. Compare his Admin's debt to Carter's.

Obama started what war? A surgical strike to KILL them damn Muslim Islamical Al Queda ISIL terrorists we complain about, ya now, Bush's deck of cards, ain't starting a war, it's preventing one. Or would you rather that he let Bin Laden live too the way Bush did even though he knew exactly where he was in the beginning? Does pretending someone is a bad bad president mean we let our enemies live? Not on my dime. Trump has my permission to kill terrorists too (I mean, other than 2 planes on a Syrian airstrip), improve our economy, and whatever else for OUR benefit. I don't want shit to go to hell just so I can point and sneer that Repubs are boobooheads.

The Stock MArket didn't jump, it's been on this path for 6 years now, and hit record highs under guess who? Also, it was WHOSE policies that allowed for this? Sorry, stocks didn't get branded TRUMP in 2017 and suddenly zoom because of it. It don't work like that.