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2 ups, 1 reply
Pat Tillman was killed by U.S. soldiers--they call it "friendly fire".
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3 ups, 1 reply
I am very aware of that, which is why I didn't embellish and say he was KIA. The point I was making was that he walked away from a high profile, successful NFL career to do what he felt was right under the circumstances and what was good for the country. Kaepernick essentially disassociated himself from it, which whether he likes it or not those he is protesting for are a part of. I did find the kneeling last night a MUCH more positive way to express his feelings.
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But. . . the Iraq war was not good for the country. It was an illegal war of aggression and the politicians had to lie to the People to get permission to go for it. Hussein had nothing to do with 9-11, did not have WMD, and had broken no international laws. Tillman died so that the oil companies and war industry could make a profit. Surely he would support Kaepernick's peaceful protest now that he knows the whose truth of the situation.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Dude, I said nothing about it being good OR bad and I do not with to argue about the war. That is way out of the context of the original meme as well as my response.
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But, in a way, it is in the original meme. You compared Tillman to Kaepernick. The former was lied into a war he should never have been in--let alone died in. The latter is protesting according to his conscience. Tillman was a "sheep" being led to slaughter. Kaepernick is a patriot standing up for freedom. I respect Tillman for doing what he thought was right but I'm sorry no one taught him to think for himself. Kaepernick doesn't buy the lies, does the research, and stands up for himself. By comparing the two you opened the proverbial "can of worms". Do we stand up out of blindness? Or do we see this country for what it truly is? Only when we see the U.S. honestly can we ever hope to fix what's wrong with it. Kaepernick is doing his small part by starting this debate--blind loyalty or honest criticism--we can't change what we don't acknowledge.
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I said I would not argue the war. I was drawing a comparison of action vs whatever Kaepernick though he was doing. Nothing more. You have a great Monday morning quarterback way of looking at things. It leads me to wonder if you just started paying attention to things around you in 2006-2008. Because you don't seem to have a firm grasp of the pre-war and post 9/11 timeframe. You call others sheep, but yet you keep repeating the talking points of the anti-war crowd. I have seen nothing original, or at least to lead, me to believe that you were forming an opinion prior to the anti-war crowd taking the stage. I'm guessing you're 18-30, and didn't watch every day as Hussein ran semis from palace to palace in order to make it appear he had weapons he did not. While there was a lot of bad intel at that point, a lot of it was strategically leaked by Hussein in order to make himself look stronger than he was to the rest of the east. You ignore the atrocities his army performed in Kuwait until we drove him out, which led to his repeated violations of the UN agreements the left him in power after the first gulf war. The Kurds would be happy to explain to you why he should not have been allowed to have chemical weapons and why it was necessary for the sanctions to be in place. When 9-11 happened there were many people who joined the Army to protect your know-it-all rear, now you call them sheep. One day when you really need one, one of those sheep may just look at you and say baaaaaah.
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9 ups, 3 replies
You should be more angry about the BS war that was started by and for the profit of the conservative coorporate elites that Pat Tillman died for.
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8 ups, 1 reply
I upvoted only because you were aware of who Pat Tillman was. I should change it for the classic deflection away from the issue.
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8 ups, 1 reply
This whole anthem sitting is a deflection from the issue.
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6 ups, 2 replies
I thought it was a protest of an important issue for libs. Are you reeeeeeally a lib?
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#VeteransForKaepernick
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6 ups, 1 reply
::A liberal used DEFLECT::
It was very effective!
::reallyitsjohn used LOGIC::
It had no effect!
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6 ups, 2 replies
Damn why do I play this game. Its just like "Foreverwinter Nights", there is no end. :)
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5 ups, 3 replies
Lol, I just like to mess with the libs their reactions are priceless
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5 ups, 1 reply
I know the feels bro! :)
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5 ups, 1 reply
:)
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No offense to you bro, you're just a liberal, not a lib :P I respect anyone who can take a little heat as well as guve it. Since u do that, I respect you even though I disagree with a lot of ur opinions xD
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;)
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1 up, 2 replies
Oh wow! I just saw that movie right after you posted that comment! ;D
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Cheesy by today's standards, but still a favorite.
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Cheesy by today's standards, but still a favorite.
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4 ups, 1 reply
What profit? The only people who got any profit out of that war, was ISIS.
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Lol...you're so naive. Uninformed. Brainwashed. Whatever.
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5 ups, 1 reply
You can't fix stupid :)
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Actually I watch fox news more than anything, then check other sources to verify that they are indeed full of shite. BBC, CNN, Huff Post, NYTimes...whereever I can...I just don't bother with Breitbart, Alex Jones and that whole group of imbeciles, they are constantly and consistently flat out lies.
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NYTimes is a CIA mouthpiece. So is the BBC and probably CNN. Huffington Post has its own (Arianna's) agenda. I hava broad-range internet sources: Information Clearinghouse, Global Reasearch, and a few others. If you want my list just ask and I'll give you links.
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You should submit that
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I wrote this as a reply to a different comment, but it sums up my thoughts on the subject:

This country WAS founded on something. We call it blood, sweat and tears. We salute the flag to honor those who died creating a country in which we have free speech. It's about respect for your country, something which most people seem to trample under the feet of "social justice". Don't like the country? Cool. But if it doesn't represent your values then what the hell are you doing raking in millions of American dollars playing an American game protected by the American military and, ironically enough, protected by the bloodthirsty police he seems to hate?
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4 ups, 1 reply
And since football was a sport created by a white guy, isn't he attempting to culturally appropriate a white person's sport? HOW DARE HE!
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4 ups
He's attacking my culture! I'm officially offended- I'll need a safe space and 250k worth of therapy ASAP
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9 ups, 2 replies
If you see a problem, do something constructive about it. If you don't have any constructive ideas and your credibility in life and your profession are in doubt, work on yourself first. There have been moments in history where a peaceful protest was appropriate as the only option for someone to draw attention to their plight. This is not the case now. Regardless of what is in his heart, this comes off looking like the adult version of pouting from a man-child who doesn't grasp the reality of positive vs negative attention.
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5 ups
Someone gets it!
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2 ups
...what?
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7 ups, 1 reply
and he sucks as a QB too !
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Ha !
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Read the original Meme in Mr. Mackey's voice LOL :)
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????
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War is hell. Even in imgflip comment sections.
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Because I'm bringing attention something that actually matters.
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Me! Me! My life is forever changed!
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5 ups, 1 reply
:)
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7 ups, 1 reply
But you SURE live up to your name.
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3 ups, 2 replies
I was hoping you'd be a BLUE ninja.... I guess you don't live up to your name.
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6 ups, 2 replies
Whatever THAT means. Must be nice to be in your own little world where the federal, state and local government spends TRILLIONS on poverty and you want even more government to solve the government's FAILURE to feed 15 million children.
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HOW BOUT U BE QUITE ALL OF U!!! IT'S SOME GUY NOT WANTING TO STAND K?! PPL R SO DENSE THESE DAYS
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I know right? Especially people who don't pay attention in school, so they don't know how to spell simple things like "people", "you", "about", "quiet", "okay/ok", or "are".
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8 ups, 5 replies
And I don't even care what is at issue. How much has this individual spent ending poverty?
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5 ups, 1 reply
Excellent point, regularfeller :)
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6 ups, 2 replies
Liberals dont get it.
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating
the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another
person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that
the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not
have to work because the other half is going to take
care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that
it does no good to work because somebody else is
going to get what they work for, that is the beginning
of the end of any nation.
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Don't get confused. . . they're not "Liberals" but "Neocons": imgflip.com/i/17ubqm
and Neoliberals: imgflip.com/i/17ucac
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1 up, 1 reply
I don't get confused, I know who is what very well by their positions and ideology. I do not dislike liberals unless they are of the moron variety, from which I will take issue just as I take departure from conservatives of the moron variety. Please do not insult me by assuming to educate me as I have not sought to insult you.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I'm sorry that you find education insulting. But, you do know that Thomas Jefferson was a Liberal, don't you?
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I have never found education insulting, in fact I seek education on different topics for at least a few hours of every day. I do find someone assuming what I know and do not know insulting. Lets assume however I am in need....what are your qualifications?
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I'm college educated--I have my degrees in ancient (dead) languages, literature, mythology, and ancient history. I've spent the last 15 years researching politics, the U.S. Constitution, and current events. If there was a degree in declassified government information I would probably have one. And, I'm getting quite old. Being a nerd, an activist, an ordained minister, and a traveler I've accumulated a vast amount of life experience. I often answer enough questions on Jeopardy to win the game (but I don't do well with cameras so I've never applied for the game). I have opinions but all my opinions are based on well-documented information. And, I usually remember where those documents are. How's that? Am I qualified?
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For a conversation, sure. To assume I am unaware, no. I do remember an earlier conversation along similar lines however my time away the last few months caused me to forget who that was with. I do have respect for your education and pursuits even if I don't go along with all your beliefs or opinions. Ditto on Jeopardy, been playing along since I was 6. My mother still has a letter somewhere that was a response from the show when I was 8 or so. She had me write to them over an error I caught.
My least favorite high school teacher did instill in me 2 rules that I live by. Question everything and seek your answer from multiple sources. I will say as far as our presence in the middle east, it is easy to Monday morning quarterback as to whether our presence was the correct thing to do or not. I don't generally get into that argument with someone with your strong feeling because we accomplish nothing. Which is why I told you I was not getting into that.
As for Pat Tillman, calling him a sheep is an insult plain and simple. An insult to anyone in the military now and in the past and I will never let that lie. If you want to insult the political leaders from where the orders originate, fine, but not the ones who do for their country what is asked and risk all whether by enemy or friendly fire.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on joining the military during war time. Since Vietnam, the information is easily available that the U.S. doesn't "defend" the country anymore. It defends "corporate interests". Anyone who joins up to kill others for a corporation is a "sheep".
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3% of my income monthly
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thanked you, saved me from making this meme buddy. :)
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Kaepernick and Nessa donated $60,000 dollars worth of backpacks to students in Harlem and South Bronx. Kaepernick has donated to children with heart disease since 2013. And, he has offered $1,000,000 to additional community activities.
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Backpacks end poverty and racism? "Offering" money to community activities ends poverty and racism? Please explain how that works.
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Spending money on those who need money helps those in poverty (especially those with health problems since U.S. healthcare is the most expensive in the world). Ending racism will not take money. . . just education.
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How do backpacks end poverty and racism? What do people not know that will make them not racist? The only thing that would end racism is the abolishment of adjectives.
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0 ups, 1 reply
It's deeper than that. For over a hundred years, the elite "Darwinists" told the public that the black man was an inferior race and that they were stupid. These things don't go away easily. The anti-Communist/Socialist propaganda is still alive and well even though there's no reason to hang on to it anymore. Shoot. . . the elitist "Darwinists" still want all "lesser" humans to think they're just hairless apes. Many kids graduate from high school thinking humans are descended from apes and that's just not true.
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I'm bored...anything new or just the same ol, same ol rehash of the "poor me" routine?
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After pointing that out, he said that the government spent trillions on poverty and everything was better than it used to be. Which is it Holmes?
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3 ups, 2 replies
Why do you need to stand for it anyway?
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I up voted your comment because I am assuming you are fairly young and it's not your fault that you haven't been taught these really basic values that us older Americans grew up with such as standing for the National Anthem, for our flag when it is paraded in front of us, men removing their hats for the flag, National Anthem, etc. All this is done to show respect for these and what they represent to Americans. The biggest example being the men and women who fought and died for this country. Hope this answers your question.
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4 ups, 4 replies
I'm almost 18..., but it doesn't answer my question, I know all of these, but I'm wondering why those things started, and it just seems pointless anyway because if we sit and listen to the national anthem or if we stand and listen to the national anthem, it shouldn't matter because we're all Americans and we know each and every one of us is proud to be an american, no matter the state of the country at the time.
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Simply, standing is a sign of respect.
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1 up, 2 replies
But that's my question, why is it a sign of respect.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Is spitting on your mother considered a sign of respect? Why not? What next, why is the sky blue?
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2 ups, 1 reply
Answer my specific question, don't be that one sarcastic guy everybody hates.
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3 ups, 2 replies
My question wasn't sarcasm and your "answer" is an evasion. Quit deflecting and start learning. Now, how about answering my specific question referencing spitting on your mother.
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No, you completely turned my question into something else, you make it seem like it's common sense to do these things, but it's not. Why can't you be a normal human and answer a question? Oh wait, that would be respectful and you obviously don't know what that is, so you didn't answer my question.
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You are being disingenuous and have nothing to add. Shoo.
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It's my question that you decide to attack me about, why don't you learn common sense and just go away and let me search for an answer without you nagging me.
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Spitting on your mother is a sign of "disrespect". Not standing for the National Anthem is the absence of respect. They're not the same thing. If he doesn't respect the way the U.S. is behaving then it's his right not to respect it. He isn't spitting on the U.S. or showing "disrespect" in any way. He's just not "praying to the U.S. government" and that's perfectly patriotic--we're a country of rebels afterall.
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Semantic dribble.
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Not "semantics" at all. Spitting on you is "disrespect". Not saluting you when you walk into a room is just "not respect". That's an important difference.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I guess you never heard ..."United WE Stand" !
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But. . . if standing for a government that doesn't serve "We, the People"--ALL of the People--then he should sit. Today, since the U.S. Constitution is nearly null and void, I'd rather see more people sit in defiance of how the politicians have screwed up this country. If you don't like the spying. . . sit. If you don't like the wars. . . sit. If you don't like that the elite are immune from the law. . . sit. Just don't blindly obey your masters. Be an American and demand to be heard!
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If you believe that then you are saying we all need to sit out the elections in protest...let me know how that works out for you ! You aren't standing for the Government , you stand for the country...even the terrorists do that in their country!
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Some have suggested that by not voting at all We the People are showing that we know our elections are illegitimate. But getting everybody to not vote has proven difficult. Studies suggest that about 35% of Americans no longer vote because they know their vote doesn't count. And, as for the "terrorists"--read the news--the U.S. supports those terrorists (they call them "moderate rebels"). They are actually paid mercenaries working for the elite's agenda and the U.S. created them in the late 1980s: imgflip.com/i/19v428
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5 ups, 1 reply
Young person: If standing DOESN'T matter, than this guy's "sitting in protest" likewise DOESN'T matter.
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0 ups, 2 replies
What if he's tired and just doesn't want to stand?
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Regardless, the point here is that he SHOULD for same reason that men who are tired, who are scared, who are wounded by gunfire and just want to be in the comfort of their own homes, stand up at great peril to their lives and charge enemy positions.
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I'm tired and don't feel like working for a living. But I have to anyway.
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I'm not sure where you grew up, but in the south we said things like sir and ma'am to show respect. Most of us were also taught to say things like please and thank you, to hold a door for others and simple everyday signs of respect. These aren't things that have to be done, but when they are it does make life a little better for all. Remember its not always how YOU feel about these things.
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2 ups, 1 reply
It should be about how you feel, I don't do anything to be respectful because different cultures have different customs, I just do what I think makes me seem like a nice person.
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3 ups, 1 reply
See, that's where you miss the point. Life, society, civilization does not revolve around us as individuals. If you only show respect in hopes of getting something in return other than feeling good about yourself, you are in for a long unhappy life. Respect given for personal gain is called sucking up.
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Since I usually don't know what is respectful or not (depends on people receiving respect) I go with what makes me seem like a nice person, and most of the time I get a compliment, and then I know what to do in the future for that person or group.
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I'm pretty sure you have a baseline of what is respectful and are not just winging it the whole way, especially if you get compliments on manners. I know you like to tweak the noses of those on the right which is fine, sometimes I enjoy a good tweaking on the left :)
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Yes, I do get what is respectful, but my question basically was asking specifically about the history of standing for the national anthem. I mean why standing? You could have your hand on your heart or something like that instead.
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There are many things that COULD be done. To partially go along with your point the gesture is not the important part. HOWEVER, the interpretation of the gesture is everything. That's why there are certain "standards" or traditional ways of showing respect. Standing at attention I am sure even predates the Romans and most likely goes back to when man first started to work together in groups to achieve common goals. The adaptation of the tradition towards the national anthem would have been a very natural progression.
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Ok that's what I was looking for, and I assumed that someone had a story about it or something, but your answer is good enough.
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Dafuq you need to bring the South into this? I'm not from the North, or the South. I'm from the whole motherf**king thing!
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I am too, there do happen to be mannerisms and traditions in different parts of the country, but I know you know that and were looking for an opening to make your point :)
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Nah, it just irritates me when people paint the South as the half that has manners. Anyways, if we continue this conversation, we're just gonna end up agreeing anyways, so let's just cut to the chase.... here's an upvote.
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LOL!!! Back at ya "SIR"!!! :)
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Sure. . . but is the U.S. behaving in a way that deserves respect these days? The Constitution is "only a piece of paper" and the "elite" are never held accountable for their illegal actions. In fact, We the People have to bail them out when they gamble our money away. Do you RESPECT all that? This is not holding a door. . . this is making people wake up and smell the coffee. There's something wrong in the good ol' US of A.
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Have you actually read the lyrics to the Star Spangle Banner? They're not pretty. We might actually think of changing our National Anthem in the future.
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They were never meant to be pretty, it's not a modern song, it's about our victory. (at least that's what I thought)
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There's actually a verse that celebrates the killing of slaves. I'm surprised any Irish or African Americans stand up for it at all. (The Irish were the first slaves in America).
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What verse says that?
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The 3rd: "Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave "
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But is it "blind respect"? This country is behaving badly. Most countries in the world see the U.S. as the biggest threat to world peace. Should we, as Americans, still respect a country that is behaving badly? And, think about it, how many wars has this country been in that actually were for "We, the People"? Since Hawaii wasn't a state at the time we could say we didn't need to get into WWII--especially since it was Russia who won the war for us. Just a thought. . . .
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I read your posts all the way to the bottom, and all I can say is: "Are you f**kin' kidding me?"
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Why?
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I can't help you. I'm not a special ed teacher.
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Right, you're a special ed student, sorry I asked.
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