Simple Solution To Transgender Confusion

how could a child identify as anything they had never heard of?

I've know I am a heterosexual male since childhood. What makes a child who wants to be trans feel any different in how they perceive themselves as?

you said "wants to be trans". are you implying it is a choice or am I drawing a conclusion?

if it is a choice, is it possible it is a fad that is being joined by unwitting children due to exposure from outside influences?

I didn't need outside influences to convince me I am a heterosexual who is attracted to women.
Why would any other person be any different?
Would you change your sexual identity because its a fad?

you had outside influence - whoever raised you, and women to be attracted to.

other people may not be as strong minded as you. they may be mentally ill.

as a heterosexual male can you be attracted to a "trans" woman since it is asserted they are "real" women?

Its sexual preference that determines human sexuality. That's the bottom line.

I think the problem most people have with the scenario you outlined is that telling the kid they're trans seems to be the first thing that is done as far as dealing with the issue. Combine that with the times the parent isn't even told their child is having this (let's call it agenda) presented to their kids, and that's when you've got the real problem.

Kids go through phases and if a kid goes would pass out of that phase naturally, then that's what should happen as opposed to drugs and operations to artificially make then another sex. There's a reason kids don't get to vote or drink, etc. It's to protect them. They should be receiving the same protection when it comes to this issue.

Adults? Do whatever you want. That's up to you and is none of my business, and I will support you 100%. (well, not financially because that's not my responsibility) And as far as I'm concerned you should have the same rights, freedom, and opportunities that every citizen of this great country has. And I will not support, in any way whatsoever, anyone who discriminates against you.

I think I was pretty clear that if a guy wants to wear a skirt, nobody should stop them. At least I wouldn't stop them. And I would not support discriminating against that guy either.

I bet you will find that most who the libs here on imgflip would think of as being on the right, believe in freedom, period. And if a guy wants to use his freedom to wear a skirt, when push comes to shove, none of them would care.

It's all the other elements of this issue that get people all riled up, particularly when the left tries to introduce this to children who aren't at an age sufficient to understand it, nor make decisions about it when it applies to them. Or when the left wants to ruin one aspect of the equality that women have fought so hard for, by letting biological males who only identify as females, but have not gone through HRT, compete against them in athletics.

Yeah, people not only get riled up about that stuff, they're not going to change their mind about it, no matter what. We're talking kids here. Parents and adults in general believe in protecting kids. So let them wait until they're no longer minors before they do something as incredibly life altering as changing their sex.

I 100% agree with you. I wasn’t saying you said it, I was saying that was my point of view.

I’m glad you are reasonable, I definitely think any life altering surgery you should have to be 25. That’s when the brain stops developing.

BS, groomers are everywhere, there is zero reason to push sex on kids, zero. Any parent buying into this mess is a child abuser and should have their children removed for the safety of the children. Once you started with the there is no agenda, I knew exactly what I was dealing with. BTW before you get all butt hurt, I have do not believe that all trans are groomers but the ones parading it in front of children and pushing it on children are, 100% of them, no lie you can say will ever change my mind.

Chic fil a supports charities that want to take away gay rights. Does that mean by eating there you want to take away gay rights? I personally choose to spend my money elsewhere, but still

You either didn't understand a word I said, or you are a groomer yourself. Thank you for proving my point.

Let's be clear, if you support the trans agenda in any form you are a groomer. It would be no difference if you told a man to get a girl drunk to get laid, you would be guilty of helping a rapist. Passive support is still support. No matter what you say, you are a groomer and that is how many people see you. If you are ok with that, you do you, just don't be shocked when people start keeping their children away from you.

Here’s the thing. You continue to use buzzwords to make people think you know what you are talking about. Other people don’t see trans people as groomers. I think you might be mistaken about how many people don’t like lgbtq people

Here is the thing, I learned the trick from the left, your side has been wrapping everyone into a single group for years "deplorables", "MAGA Republicans" etc, it is a very long list. One of the mods reminded me that I can't make this personal, so I am trying to explain why I use an umbrella term and hold the group responsible for the actions of its worse members, also a trick I learned from the left. The defund the police crowd do not see themselves as pro criminal; but that is what they are. The same parent that demands their trans child share a shower and restroom with actual females think they are right, but I doubt the same parents would share a shower at a gym. Hypocrisy is a left tactic. While I will never see your social circle as anything but a threat, I am not your enemy. We could find common ground on other issues but not on trans. BTW, I do not see most members of the larger homosexual community the same as the people pushing the trans agenda. I have zero problem with adults sharing their lives. I draw the line at allowing trans to cheat in sports, shower with the opposite sex, get medically altered while a minor and activists pretending all of that and more is normal and demanding the world accept it.

Okay, I can understand your point of view. I mean, politics should never be about enemies, after all we are all living in the same country. Having opposing views is natural and I’m glad there is some common ground. Have a good day!

You do realize the suicide rate among trans people being high is due to not being accepted by people like you?

It’s literally caused by the non acceptance. There is no “agenda”

You are deflecting that I am telling you that you, by your logic, are a groomer.

Dislike the person, not the group.

Hence the problem between us, there is zero reason that anyone outside of the trans community should accept anyone, trans or not just because they exist. If acceptance will save a trans child's life teach them to avoid outsiders, problem solved. There are dozens of groups children should avoid, gangs, criminals, grifters, it is a long list. Teaching children to avoid people that threaten them is a parent's job, in my house that includes trans because I do not have the ability to determine the good from the bad. I know that bothers you and I don't really care. Teach your children to avoid me, problem solved. Now we can both live in peace. As much as I enjoyed your attempt to enlighten me about your world we are finished for today, I have work to do, and this has become a circular argument and neither of us will change the mind of the other. I will leave you with this-we both want to protect children, that tells me that you're a good person, we are not enemies, just different.

Yes, but there’s a difference between drag and wearing clothes that make you feel confident about who you are.

Depends on the drag. If it’s dressing up in a skirt and putting on makeup and wigs, that’s fine. But there are some drag shows that are innapropriate and strictly meant for adults.

So we partly agree, I disagree with anything that sexualizes children. There are plenty of ways that a child can express themselves without drag.

I do not support having women in men’s competitions or vice versa. You are religious, so should I automatically lump you in with all the religious nuts and mega preachers that only care about money? There are preists that groom children, does that mean you are supporting them?

Doesn’t feel good to be called a groomer for other peoples actions, does it.

More deflection, I would call out the priests too. What you refuse to see is the network that pushes the trans agenda on children, they do not care who they harm as long as the movement grows. The number of suicides among trans children alone should cause them concern. Adults targeting children, sexualizing children or harming children most people would agree is wrong. My problem with the left is many gladly refuse to see the harm they cause on others just to control the narrative; personal responsibility is not a strong point with the left.

I personally don’t think that sharing a shower with people of your gender is good, you should use the bathroom of their biological sex.

Now, does this still mean that you are also helping groomers, considering there are straight groomers? Using your logic that is correct

You are deflecting. There are groomers that are straight, but they are not part of an agenda that demands mixing genders in sports and in the locker rooms. There is no logical reason to support groomers.

I do not want to mix genders, I’ve already said that. In schools, you have to do Physical education tests based on your biological sex already, so we should have things like that separated.

Grouping everyone into stereotypes is not good. There are some trans people who think there are 200 genders and there are some that thing there are only 5.

Deflecting again. What you think or support doesn't matter. There are organization's pushing trans sports, the demand that biological makes be allowed to join teams with biological females.

Also, again as I have said, I do not support groomers.

“the action of attempting to form a relationship with a child or young person, with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization.“

This is the definition of grooming. I am not doing nor supporting people who do this.

Do you support children preforming in drag?

It is grooming, passive support is still support. I have no reason to think that you would ever harm a child intentionally, but you are responsible for your own bad choices. If you gave a firearm to a child and it killed another child, you would be held responsible. If you teach a child that they were born a mistake and the only way that they will ever be true to themselves is through a medical procedure then you are a child molester (you didn't like groomer, so I used another term), just as much as the team that performs the procedure and everyone in that child's life that pretend the child has switched genders. There are enough videos online showing tranny's rubbing up against children both during story hours and pride parades to justify legal action. Trannies are groomers, not all but until they clean up their own ranks and expose the perverts hiding among them, they are also guilty of passive support to the groomers. Now, I know that you disagree, and I will not even attempt to change your mind, I am just letting you know how others will see you. Your own opinion on your life choices is yours to own.

The only person living a lie is the one who’s trying to dictate who other people are

That would be you. I have not tried to change your mind; I told you only to be true to yourself. My goal was to explain how others see your group, at no point did I try and change you. Buy a mirror and look into it.

https://newrepublic.com/article/165761/republican-governors-grooming-crt-trans-rights

Regardless of what you think I am, I am a person that advocates that everyone should have rights and be true to themselves.

the action of attempting to form a relationship with a child or young person, with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization.

That’s… literally not what any of us are doing.

I know you believe that you are somehow different a kinder, gentler person, maybe even a nice one. The problem you and others have is actions do not defend your words. Once you accept a man can use medical trickery to be a woman, you have picked the wrong side. Every trans person a danger to children or not is a mockery to females everywhere. Because you see a difference between some groups of insiders you see as better, not dangerous or predatory and not the threat that they all pose to the future of us all, you are not able to see how easily the most dangerous use you for cover and concealment, hiding in your ranks to attack children, woke and un woke alike, they do not care about the politics and causes the parents support. It would be no different if you lived in a gang neighborhood, watched criminals attack innocents every day and said nothing because you were not in the gang. The truth is harsh, doing nothing is passive support, the gang needs and expects the neighborhood to accept them and the way the choose to live without question or hindrance. I belong to the group of parents that resist all things woke, all, the trans movement is just one side of it but an important one. Some of the most dangerous predators live in that group and are open about who and what they are, groomers do not hide when they do not have to.

So again, you ignore the fact that I said that, by your logic, every human on this earth is a groomer. You just continue to call me a groomer, which is not true. Do you need the definition of groomer buddy?

You ignore the simple fact that only one political party supports, defends and funds groomers, stop lying and be true to your cause. Bottom line, I and millions like me see you only as a groomer, you're defending the agenda and using a stupid circle argument to distract convinces us we are right. Nothing you can say changes the truth; you are what you are.

This is the most idiotic argument I have ever heard dude. Trans people are not a mockery to other people. Think about it like this. A man wants to be a woman so badly that they change their gender to a woman.

You need to stop fear mongering people into being on your side by telling them “our kids are being groomed by the trans community!” Because it’s not true. Every single community on earth has bad apples.

Trans live a lie and you help, end of story

Thank you for proving my points, embrace yourself.

What child your child or somebody else’s? If a child says they are a dinosaur will You try to get them surgery to look more like a dinosaur? That’s Ridiculous, they’re children they say all kinds of things.