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2 ups, 3w,
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Uh oh! Islamophobia detected!

Where's my pakistani comrade moderators? C'mon quickly flag this meme. Delete it. This is hate speech against British Caliphate.
0 ups, 3w
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3 ups, 3w,
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As a Hindu immigrant from India who agrees with certain Christian and atheist values, please stop using Islamophobic rhetoric. Bush realized he was wrong about the Patriot Act, you can change too.

There are many Muslim countries where women's rights are improving, and even a few where LGBTQ+ rights are improving. It's wrong to collectively discriminate Muslims or any faith.
6 ups, 3w,
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It’s in the Koran….
1 up, 3w,
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Can you find me specific verses?
5 ups, 3w,
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(Surah An-Nur 24:31 and Surah Al-Ahzab 33:59
0 ups, 3w
Those verses just talk about women covering up. I'm no apologist for Islam btw.
2 ups, 3w,
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Agreed. Also the Islamic world is *extremely* culturally and ethnically diverse (there are Muslims of every race, age and social class) and covers a vast area of the globe where norms and laws differ considerably. The image of women in "burkas" or the stereotypical Arab man with a headdress is a huge oversimplification that is common online and in certain circles. It does not reflect reality.
2 ups, 3w,
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Iran is an authoritarian Islamic country, but that's largely in part to revolting against another authoritarian leader who served Western interests and suppressed working class Iranians.

Trump is considering to avoid stepping into the Iran-Israel conflict, and that's the route he should go because attacking Iran could damage our relations with China, making it a proxy war or worse, and it could also severely increase our debt the way the Iraq and Afghanistan wars did.

If Superman existed, the government should hire him to capture or eliminate terrorists. No civilian casualties, no unnecessary property destruction, just pay him a few million$ per mission, and he'll go in, get the guy, and get out. Then he can go back to his penthouse and be Clark Kent and get down with Lois.
3 ups, 3w,
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They have ways to do that, they don't because of political fallout. Like the Iranian government supporting terrorists and wanting to nuke the US.

As to the whole "some Muslim countries aren't that bad"
Yeah, read the Koran. They are being bad Muslims.
1 up, 3w,
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If Iran ever attempted to nuke the US, they know full well they'd be toast. I'm not sure even the Ayatollahs are that crazy.

Even North Korea has never risked it and that's run by a loon.

As for being "bad Muslims", it's often the opposite. Islamic terrorists go against mainstream Islamic jurisprudence and the rulings of top Islamic clerics who often condemn the actions of extremists.

The extremists interpret Islamic Scriptures according to their own political agenda but that runs counter to the rulings of top Islamic legal experts.

The Bible also has plenty of highly questionable content. By that logic, you could just as well argue that most Christians are "bad Christians" for not stoning people to death or engaging in slavery or sth. And we don't tend to do that.
0 ups, 3w,
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A plain reading of the quoran indicates to take countries by force, if that's not possible do it by infiltration.
Also deception, lies, manipulation, are all allowed in Islam as long as you are doing it for God.
That means the Ayatollahs can lie.

As to the bible: tell me you haven't read the new testament without telling me you haven't read it.
Biblical slavery was a servant class that could own their own property and buy themselves out. In most instances it had a cap on how long it lasted, and strict rules on treatment of slaves was enforced. The new testament was under roman rule where slavery was the norm and it entreated Christians to treat slaves equal to themselves.
Stoning people to death was Judaism. New testament Jesus said "you without sin cast the first stone" doing away with stonings.
0 ups, 3w,
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Unfortunately not true. The "quoran" [sic] does not say what you claim it does, and Islam does not teach that lying is good. Nor does mainstream Islam teach that murder of innocents is condoned. And you would know it doesn't if you had actually read it or listened to mainstream Islamic rulings on this, and could actually spell it.

And yes, I have read a lot of the NT but it's true that I don't know Koine Greek so if you are an expert on that then I can't comment on that and I defer to your superior knowledge.

But I know all about how Jesus did not approve of this kind of thing. I have also read some of the Bible in Hebrew and the Qur'an in Arabic. Have you?

If you actually were a true practising Christian and genuinely followed the New Testament/Gospel and the teachings of Jesus Christ, it is actually you who would realize that supporting Trump and his military aggression and ridiculous narcissism goes against what Jesus actually taught. Don't give me that, mate.

Try again.

You might think you're following Jesus. But you're not following what he actually taught.

In any case, if you're going to critique Islam, at least learn to spell their holy book.
0 ups, 2w,
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You need to reread it.
It clearly states that doing evil in Allah's name is ok, encouraged even.
Surah Al-Imran (3:28): "Believers should not take disbelievers as guardians instead of believers—and whoever does so will have nothing to hope for from Allah—unless it is a precaution against their tyranny."
Sahih Bukhari (59:369) narrates that Muhammad permitted Muhammad bin Maslama to lie to deceive and kill Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf, a poet who insulted Muslims. The Prophet reportedly said, "War is deceit" (Sahih Bukhari, Book 52, Hadith 269)
Surah Al-Tawbah (9:5) ("Kill the polytheists wherever you find them") or Surah Al-Baqarah (2:191) ("And kill them wherever you find them")
Surah Muhammad (47:4): "When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks..."
Sahih Bukhari (1:25)
Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:33) prescribes severe punishments (execution, crucifixion, or amputation)
Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Hadith 6303: The Prophet said, "Lying is not permissible except in three cases: a man speaking to his wife to please her, lying in war, and lying to reconcile between people."
It almost reads like a schizophrenia person wrote it. Backtracking and reversing what was said earlier
0 ups, 1w,
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You've referenced a lot of verses without context.

The Bible itself claims: "There is no god".

If you take it out of context.

https://biblehub.com/psalms/14-1.htm

Almost all the verses you cited refer to specific historical periods when the Muslims were at war.

They're not blanket verses telling Muslims to kill all non-Muslims. They relate to specific battles in Islamic history. And if you include the verse just after you will see it also says to show mercy and stuff. But this is in the context of war.

You're trying to cherry-pick verses from the Qur'an to argue that Islam teaches Muslims to slaughter non-Muslims. That is simply not true. And it's even more absurd coming from someone with a Christian or Jewish background, using a holy book that has the most outrageous immoral stuff that would make any civilized person flinch. Have you even read the Old Testament? The Qur'an is nothing compared to that.

As I pointed out, there is WAY more f**ked-up stuff in the Bible. So no offence but you don't even want to go there. The Qur'an talks about Hellfire a lot. It's a bit of a broken record. But compared to the Jewish Bible, it's child's play. So don't even try to start that argument because you'll lose before you get into the ring.

If you were an Atheist, then maybe. But if you're genuinely trying to argue the Bible is more moral than the Qur'an, the please spare me. It's too absurd for words. The Bible would be banned as hate speech if it was published now. So cut the crap.
0 ups, 1w
Sorry, the Quran has a rule that newer verses overrule older verses. The newer verses expouse conquest by war, and if you can't do that, infiltrate and take over. It also allows sinning in the name of Allah.

You'll need to back up your claims about the Bible with verses. You've already shown you aren't that familiar with it.
2 ups, 3w
Similarly, rabbis have spoken against intense Zionism because it violates principles of Judaism.
1 up, 3w,
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Trump is not considering avoiding stepping in the Iran-Israel conflict, he's playing good cop bad cop with good cop about to pull a howitzer out of his sleeve. This war is his baby, and simply would not have happened without him.
2 ups, 3w,
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Notice how this comment was before the US strikes.
1 up, 3w,
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Air strikes? I haven't watched the news since last night.
1 up, 3w,
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I meant my comment
1 up, 3w,
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My bad. I really didn't know that the US bombings happen before I've read your comment today.

I read an article the other day that there have been (3?) Chinese planes landing in Tajikistan that were supposed to be headed to Lithuania, something like that. After a couple hours, they did head to lift away yeah.. While it's not exactly known what they were doing, the speculation is that they're unloading weapons for Iranian use.
1 up, 3w,
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i'm not saying the war is good by any means, but most likely it could be confined to the middle east
1 up, 3w
It'll be confined to Iran, or rather, Israel and Iran.
5 ups, 3w,
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Huh…?
4 ups, 3w
https://youtu.be/xNOBlyvaPKo?si=tbayY6O3zuobWGhE
3 ups, 3w
Nah…
2 ups, 3w
Crazy people on both sides. Neither represents a majority of that side.
4 ups, 3w
hahahaha.... more proof... wow
2 ups, 3w
Bwahahahaaha 😂 you are kidding right? That a hilarious statement of extreme willful ignorance or a lack of exposure to the real world.
4 ups, 3w
Nah…
4 ups, 3w,
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One is fictional….
5 ups, 3w,
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The Handmaiden Tale basically tries to explain how the human race can repopulate itself after a devastating war….so it’s kinda a dystopian novel. Muslims women have no rights because a man decided that women are sinful 1500 years.
4 ups, 3w
To add more Handmaiden happens in the USA. Now here's the really stupid part. The government managed to get every husband, father of a daughter, brother with a sister, male cousin with female cousin, male pastor and so on to go along with it. Unlike an Islam country where females have no rights, females in the US have a lot of rights that can't be easily taken away and yet in this book it happened.

Another thing that makes Handmaiden weak is it's not like Atlas Shrugged, 1984, or some other well known dystopian story. In those stories the authors goes after corrupt government because there is basis in the current reality for it to happen.

Handmaiden on the other hand goes after males and Christianity. . .'cause the author is a feminazi who couldn't keep her biases in check while writing the story. As matter of fact professional reviewers, male and female, pretty much panned the book. The only reason why it got any traction at all in pop culture is because some feminist thought it was a good idea to make a TV show out it.
2 ups, 3w,
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Ah, so those are futuristic prog Hippies from the outer space?
2 ups, 3w,
1 reply
Huh…?
3 ups, 3w,
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They're free love Hippies from Planet Berkeley in the future, reich?
4 ups, 3w,
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I have no idea what you’re talking about, my dude. “Reich”?
2 ups, 3w,
2 replies
I never understood how anybody can repost a meme and not actually look at it. I mean, just for the sake of being prepared when somebody says something in regards to it?
4 ups, 3w,
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Again….huh…? What you talking about? You’re throwing a bunch of words at me. It’s really hard for me to understand
2 ups, 3w
Good grief, read your meme. Try to understand what your meme is about.
4 ups, 3w
2 ups, 3w,
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What is with you and reich?
2 ups, 3w
1 up, 3w,
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reich means realm stupid
0 ups, 3w,
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Actually it means kingdom. My question still stands as to the use of it in this sentance.
1 up, 3w,
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osterreich
"eastern realm"
Reich is analogous to realm
0 ups, 3w
It may mean that in old high german, but it hasnt meant that for a long time.
3 ups, 3w,
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Mohammad’s first wife wasn’t a Muslim when she met Mohammad.
4 ups, 3w,
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So you agree that she wasn’t a Muslim when she accumulated her wealth….
3 ups, 3w,
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There is no evidence of her working after marriage to Mohammad…I guess she retired or something. She was older after all
0 ups, 3w
Nothing to do with her age as far as I know. She was already much older than Muhammad when they married.

Look, I'm not an expert on Islamic history and I'm not a Muslim or an apologist for Islam anyway so I'm not particularly bothered. But I don't think you are, either tbf.

Take your upvotes from your fellow Trump voters who never left their Texas village and think all Muslims are suicide bombers and think they've scored points in their mom's basement. It doesn't change anything. Truth doesn't care about your feelings.
3 ups, 3w,
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And women can’t get divorce. Men can. It’s called talad
3 ups, 3w
There’s three types of divorces in Islam. All of them have to have the approval of a man….khul, fashak and tawfid al talaq
1 up, 3w,
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Oh, please. The author couldn't keep her personal biases about men and Christians in check. It's kind of a thing in order to be a good story teller. Sure Rand and Orwell went after communism hard but they held back on how they really felt for the sake of the story.
1 up, 3w
You probably don't know this about me, I don't discuss it much here, but my day job is a technical writer. Which means, I write white papers, blogs, training materials, and all sorts of really boring stuff.

A thing you definitely don't know about me is that I have a whole college degree in writing from a university here in Texas. Meaning, I've been academically trained on how to write. It means that I've been trained on the key elements of effective writing- both fiction and technical- and I have well over a decade of experience in effective writing.

So, "keeping a personal bias in check" is certainly a hallmark of effective writing. Effective technical writing. In elementary & high school, they usually call it non-fiction writing. You have to scrub any sense of your personal voice from the final product, and in the corporate world I often have to write 'in the voice' of a specific VP or whatever so the blog or paper will sound like them. So, the things I write don't sound like me at all, and they certainly don't espouse my progressive politics.

However, in fiction writing, it's the exact opposite. You have to have a point of view- a bias- to tell a compelling story. All the good stories have a very clear point of view. You may not like it, not every story is for every person, but it has to be there.

Otherwise, it's boring and everyone forgets about it.

So, claiming that a fiction writer needs to "keep their bias in check" is wrong. It goes against the fundamental basis for writing fiction- have something to say and say it loudly.

However, saying that writers need to keep their bias in checkt is you demanding that writers tell stories you approve of. That's why you want her to "keep it in check" like your example of Rand or Orwell.

It's okay to like some stories and be offended by others. You can like or not like things all you want, that's okay. But expecting writers to produce works that you approve of?

Well, I have some bad news for you.
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