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Yes. And I think it’s a cultural epidemic. We have Cardi B influence black girls and they end up like her. They have those idols and end up trying to be those people.

murder is murder , it doesn't matter if you are poor or not. Being poor doesn't make it impossible to tell right from wrong. Stop making excuses for their bad behavior.

But sometimes being poor makes it impossible to do the right thing to survive

Murder is wrong no matter how much money you have or don't have.. Stop making excuses for their bad behavior.

I'm not excusing it but you need to know that it is an issue of class, not race

If that was true than the issue would be the same across all races that are poor. They are not, murder, assault, rape, and robbery are all done overwhelmingly by one race.

Ok, so you are just being racist now

Or..or.. You can look up the stats yourself and see I am right and then you can apologize for calling me racist.

Fine, I apologize for calling you racist. But you are on a slippery slope to being that way

Listen if you are ever afraid to look at stats because they might seem racist..you gotta get over that. Truth is truth, and sometimes it makes a very racist conclusion, racism is a social constructed issue, it only exists because we acknowledge what it is - numbers are reality and exist whether we acknowledge them or not.

I'm not afraid to look at stats, I'm afraid those stats will be used against people for discrimination

You can not discriminate with facts, If I say fat people are a drain on our health care system , that is not a discriminatory remark, its factual. That is what I am talking about, if you are afraid to use facts and data to debate , you'll always lose. - data can be pretty mean, like the old saying "truth hurts".

Truth does hurt, like how trump is a convicted felon

Yup he was, and he is your President for the next 4 years because people overwhelmingly voted for him. Truth stings don't it.

Oh, yay! I can vote in 4 years so imma try and kick his cheeto a$$ outa office and his pope-cursing friend too

Well you can do what ever you want in 4 years , I hope what you do though is grow up a little. Just so you know this is Trump last term so your TDS will be for nothing. So sit back and reap the rewards of an adult in office instead of a bar w**re or a brain dead old cancer patient.

I swear if the democrats can't pull their sh*t together and produce a good candidate before then I might actually crash out

Well I can see why somebody would say that given what some people might say, but you can't simply dismiss when a large contingent of particularly the youth from a certain demographic quite literally celebrate murder and other crimes for street cred. When crime is valued over school and career and family and accomplishment - well, other than 'Gangsta Rapper' - it's bound to have something of an effect.

Poverty may increase the chances for a life of crime, but it's not an excuse and does not apply to everyone living in that sort of a community. In fact there's always the question of causation, do they have criminal tendencies because they're poor, or are they poor because of their tendencies?

That's right, there's other factors, seemingly linked to the worse that people have it, the worse they act.

Actually the race with the highest per capita murder, rape, and other violent crime rate is another race, the race that has had the worst of them all here in their own continent.

And then there's a certain subset of British-Americans with an exceedingly a high crime rate going back all the way to their penal colony roots and beyond back to England where they basically formed a criminal class which was then later deported here. There genealogy can be traced back to that, and their tendency towards violent crime is renowned, with an associated propensity for gun violence and whatnot, as well as low education and employment rates.

Ok, being brought here as a penal colonist convict isn't exactly optimal, but the fact is, the only difference between them and the majority that was not oppressed by race here is their class, and that's something not as pronounced here in America.
So what's their excuse?

This is my point, your background, your status in life, and your Financial situation is not an excuse to murder or rape or assault anyone else. Stealing food, or squatting in an abandoned house for shelter ( stealing to survive) is not the same as looting 20 bottles of booze and 30 pairs of Gym Shoes, or murdering someone , or punching an old lady in the face for her purse.

My family was dirt poor, I had 6 brothers and sister living in a 2 bedroom apartment , my dad loaded trailors at sears, not a single one of us became a criminal - I am not better than anyone else.. why didn't I punch an ol lady in the face for her purse? Why didn't I stick a pistol in a store clerks face and tell him to empty the register? I went to bed hungry , plenty of times , more than I would like to remember, so did my brothers and sisters.

Maybe the answer is - class and culture, and race all play a part in criminal behavior..

You bragged about punching 'Lefties' out during a BLM riot, said you're 6'5'' and yearn to attack em again, and even reveled in having stolen other kids' lunch money in grammar school. Just because you weren't busted for it doesn't negate it.

When looking at people according to race or ethnicity, a pattern emerges showing a correlation between how historically screwed over they've been and how they live now.

Native Americans have the highest violent crime rate of any demographic,
Followed by African-Americans descended from slaves (but not actual African Americans who are 100% African),
Followed by Hispanics.

Not exactly sure where Appalachians fit in as a subset apart from other 'Whites,' but their crime numbers are in the tops too.

I got the maps as is from Reddit (I posted something similar years ago with another account, but I came upon this one last night and as far easier than getting dizzy searching through years of memes for mine) as can be seen it isn't as simple as just race or just poverty. There are numerous factors.

There has been a longtime claim that 'Gangsta Rap' is a con by the powers that be to encourage criminality instead of progress and accomplishment. That sounds kinda eh-ish till you remember that Ronald Reagan as Governor had the FBI bring in heroin to 'Black' neighborhoods in California to quell civil rights movements and radicalism, and had the CIA do the same with Crack Cocaine in ghettos throughtout the US when he was President, which also coincides with Rap taking over and it's 'Gangtsa' offshoot. Before I get a sabbatical for abusing my hometown's lingo again, kindly look up "Gangster Rap," it's an actual music genre that's been around for four ferking decades. As seen on MTV!

That's still doesn't excuse people from their bad behavior and choices, but I assure you know I'm one of the exceptionally rare few that I've known in my life who doesn't go around lashing out their eternal conflicts sired by an unpleasant growing up experience on others. I either avoid situations where it could happen or simply internalize my animosity and attack myself rather than others. Not perfect, but I try. I have two siblings that didn't have it half as bad as me, yet they have no qualms about flinging their animosity out at others like it was confetti. One of them in particular is so extremely... well, I can't say more lest I get 48 for insulting that one as well. Let's just say that one is actually happiest when angry. A lot

I'm 6'3 , not 6'5. Yea, when lefties are rioting and looting and trying to destroy shit, sure I notched a few knock outs in my belt during the floyd riots, I can't recall stealing anyones lunch money when I was a kid, but if you say i said it, okay, does that make me a criminal? No, not even in the same galaxy.

Out side influences can only do so much, the individual has to make the decision to do the drugs or to commit the crime , it doesn't matter if it is encouraged by the government or by music or anything else, there is a voice in everyone, a voice that says , this is right and this is wrong.. at a certain point you either ignore it or you listen to it. Does life make it hard to listen to it, Sure.. does it make it impossible to,..no.

I just don't believe that historical injustices , crimes, or oppression from 100s of years ago should have any bearing on how someone acts today. If those things are not currently happening to someone right now, but to use that as an excuse to be a criminal ..is a piss poor reason.

Do you not remember talking about crime in South Africa just days ago? How do you account for that, and the fact that the rest of Africa, including South Africa's immediate neighbors, do not have nowhere near the murder and a crime rates that South Africa has?

So a brutal segregation that's like a Confedie's wet dream, in which people were arrested and literally torture to death because they wanted to be treated like human beings had no effect? Really?

How do you account for Appalachians, the the subset that I can't even refer to in a censored way (I got 48 once for no letters, just two sets of asterisks referring to it and that in terms of it being a racist term against those people. I wasn't saying anything negative about them, I was saying something negative about the term which I had completely censored every letter of. 48)? And not only them, but if you look at the cities you're talking about, life Chicago, like Detroit, the criminals you're complaining about just happened to live in the same area as those Appalachians. Various other people who lived in that area took their violent tendencies with them when they migrated West after the Civil War and then North during the Great Depression.

I said unless those things are going on right now , they should not be used as an excuse, those things are happening right now in South Africa. People that are experiencing oppression right now are not who I am talking about. I am refering to those Appilacians, and those inner city black folk , and anyone else that has near unlimited government assistance, paying for their food , gas , electric, housing, and schooling and anything else they need to live, that turn to crime and use some ancient crime against someone that looks like them, as a reason to do crime today. 100 black kids mobbed a walmart and looted everything they could get their hands on, the enablers of that kind of behavior excused it as reparation for slavery... There is no way you or anyone else can conflat what is happening in South Africa with our inner cities here in America, they are two completely different people.

You get the same behavior around the world, England , France, Germany, South America, Anywhere. Their behavior has nothing to do with slavery in America but it is identical, it is cultural - and it seems like the easier life gets for them.. the worst they act. So how do we explain that?

"When looking at people according to race or ethnicity, a pattern emerges showing a correlation between how historically screwed over they've been and how they live now"

What about the Asians? They were treated just as horribly if not worst.. yet they strive to be good and decent and have little crime and are cause for less than 1% of crime in America.

They completely are the opposite of what you are telling me in regards to historical oppression and behavior today.