Tipping the Scales?

Shes not terrified of Putin. Once he decides to even use one Nuclear weapon it's over. NATO and any other of Russia's enemies would on it like a HAWK. With XI thou that's different I wouldn't be to worried with NATO again. But I'm not sure she's afraid of them

In case anyone wants to read the actual story instead of this selective outrage: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-09-11/linsey-davis-abc-news-harris-trump-debate

And if you don't read the link, and you're wondering why would ABC prepare to fact check 1 person in real time over another person, you only have to look at the CNN debate between Biden & Trump.

Trump told over 30 lies in that debate. Not misstatements. Not miss representations. Straight up lies. Then look at his time in office where he told so many lies they can be sorted into categories. And let's not forget he ran a fraudulent university, a fraudulent charity, his business was found to have committed fraud, AND He was convicted of fraud.

You know, lying.

He lies about anything and everything. All the time.

So, yeah, you bet they prepared to deal with his constant lies.

It isn't the moderator's job to fact check a candidate's claims. It is the people's (you and I) job to do the research and determine for themselves which is truth and which is lies. And what about kamala's lies? She wasn't fact-checked at all. One lie she told was about Trump's comments about good people on both sides. She wasn't fact-checked and that was a bold-faced lie.

Trump mentioned that Democrats a support after-birth or third trimester abortions. That wasn't a lie. He didn't claim it was legal. He said they support it, which they do. Just because you choose to ignore this fact, doesn't make it disappear or not a fact.

What is the significant difference between "There were good people on both sides" and " There were very fine people on both sides"?

And, no, after-birth abortions are not a thing. No one supports that. That's a lie.

YOU don't support it. There are those who do. And all of them are Democrat.

I can't believe we're still arguing this, but there is a clip of his entire speech. If you watch it, it is very clear he isn't talking about neo Nazis. He SAYS SO right before he says "fine people on both sides." Conjecture isn't evidence of your argument and neither is bias opinion.

No. There are no Democrats who support this so-called 'after birth abortions'. It's a lie.

And he did say, and I quote, ""Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

Who shows up to a rally to march with nazis, white supremacists, neo-confederates, KKK, and fascists that isn't someone in that group?

Imagine that you show up to a rally, and you find out it's organized by nazis, there's a bunch of KKK people in it, and white supremacists. Do you stick around and march with them?

If you're okay with hanging out with Nazis, white supremacists, neo-confederates, KKK, and fascists, that means your one of them.

And not a very fine person.

Again, misquoting what he said. How convenient you left out where he mentioned the neo Nazis. He said it multiple times. Typical of a leftist.

Who shows up to a protest with violent thugs from antifa? You just let them Donald they please? You're there to counter protest. You just keep making shit up to make it sound disgusting. You misquote and make up lies about what he said and what he did.

Again, typical of a leftist.

That is a direct quote from the transcript. You can see it here: https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

If I misquoted him, it's easy to prove. Show me where I misquoted him.

The Unite The Right rally was organized by white supremacists to unite racists to defend the removal of the Robert E Lee statue. They wore their racisim on their sleeves, literally. They had their flags. They chanted things like "the jews will not replace us."

They advertised who they were. Loudly with shirts, hats, flags, weapons, and songs. Anyone who stuck around to continue to support them knew exactly who they were supporting.

So, there's your both sides.White supremacists that organized a rally for neo-nazis, neo-confederates, KKK, other white supremacists along with the people who showed up and decided that wasn't a deal breaker, and then everyone else.

The non-nazis in this situation were very okay with hanging out with actual nazis.

I guess you can call the non-nazis who stuck around to hang out with neo-nazis very fine people. But I won't.

Sometimes it's like talking to a wall...

It's hard to argue with facts, but y'all keep trying.

I gave you facts, so I'm arguing WITH facts. I think you mean arguing against facts. But that would be incorrect. You can't be bothered to look at the actual footage of everything he said during that speech, you just nit-pick certain parts of it and go with the lie.

That's a very leftist/Democrat thing to do, unfortunately.

I did go and look up what he said. I even provided you with a transcript of what he said so you could verify that I quoted him exactly.

The organizers of the Unite The Right rally were Richard Spencer, Jason Kessler and Christopher Cantwell. All of whom are very open about being Nazis and white supremacists.

They weren't shy about who they were and what they were doing- they were wearing shirts, had flags, sang songs. It was obvious they were nazis doing nazi stuff.

Trump complimented people who willingly hang out with nazis.

After birth abortions are called physical murder. Thats correct, the right likes to say that the Dems especially support it but I'm not sure I'm able to find anyone who supports murder

"Trump complimented people who willingly hang out with nazis."

Now you're moving the goal posts

https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs?si=eH_CHz-981IoZ1ys

Start it at 1:55 and listen to what he said about the neo Nazis. It's mind numbing how ignorant you choose to be

I appreciate everything you do. Everytime you go in and fact check there means and speak truth you half the time beat me to it good job man keep the good work up

You should really read the comment again, he is basically saying it is okay for one politician to lie but not the other. Camela didn't say a single truthful thing during the debate, not one, she even lied about growing up in America, she was raised in Canada. If mods are going to real time fact check, they should do both equally, wouldn't that have been a fair situation, instead of allowing one to lie and only fact check the other ?

She was born in Oakland California

I said she was raised in Canada, 12 -18 is the most influential time ina persons young life. That is the time you start making life decisions about yourself. Anyways, why is it okay for one perosn to lie but not the other? Is it okay for someone to lie if you agree with them? I am fine with live fact checks on Trump, but shouldn't Camela get the same treatment?

She did get fact checked tho. Maybe not as nearly as much as trump but she did get checked

Not once, she said lies after lies and was never fact checked or asked a follow up question. Case in point, she mentioned trump saying about a "bloodbath" if he wasn't elected, and we all know he was talking about the auto industry. She mentioned project 2025 like 12 times and trump has nothing to do with it , yet she was allowed to lie about it that many times. A debate should be equal, how can uninformed voters make a porper decision on who they would like to vote for , if the debates are weighted against one or the other ?

You can go straight to ABC or ANY fact check website and will show you its facts checks and how Kamala was checked. Trump does know about project 2025 many sources told the truth

She wasn't fact checked -live- like trump was during the debate. That is the issue here, people watching were led to believe Camela was telling the truth , which she wasn't, and only trump was lying. It was bias and ABC lost a ton of credit with people since then because it was so obvious. Can we have a fair and neutral debate? Or does she need the assist of moderators to make her look good? Because she is not going to get help on the world stage when Putin and Jinping are taking her apart.

Ok maybe not live, but even on their website it still shows the fact checks for both. Maybe not for her live because hmm idk some of the things trump said where outrageous.

We can have an open debate but Trump doesn't even want one on CNN probably cause he knew he lost pretty badly.

I'm well aware she isn't going to get help when on the stage with Putin but I doubt she's afraid of him. He's already losing a war. He's not that scary

She is terrified of Putin, She is terrified of Xi, She is even terrified of netanyahu who is an ally, but she didn't have the skill to navigate seeing him and keeping her leftist base happy, whom are pro Palestine. Does she think "Joy" is going to stop China from taking over the world, which they are in the process of doing ? Russia is not going to lose any wars, They are the world largest nuclear power, If putin wanted to end the war in Ukraine, a hand full of tactical nukes would do it. I don't understand the politics behind what is really going on over there, no one does.

Thank you, and keep up the good work!

No problem man

Where source

The L.A. Times. She just did an interview with them; and not just openly admitted this, but openly bragged about it.

Yup... I saw that... She admitted it during her interview.

The Mainstream Media is openly partisan; but this time it cost them about 26 million dollars because after that faux 'debate' five major advertisers cancelled their advertising contract with ABC; angry over the hyper-partisanship.

Wow, talk about getting their just desserts, Charles! I had not heard and glad there is some justice (although not nearly enough as you know). They generally operate without impunity...

Yes, ABC declared that it's the last debate they will ever host. Of course they also used to claim that they were non partisan; and so lying is what they do.

Really?

Of course the dem propaganda MSM won't report on that either...

Aye, and besides which ABC will probably get an under the table infusion of money from the DNC to offset the financial impact of this loss and obviously for being good party loyalists.