Yeah, right...

Hahahaha, it was hilarious watching him choke on that answer...

"I'M NOT THE PRESIDENT!"

Hahahahahah f**king idiot still has no plan.

Trump answered questions? He avoided almost every one (climate change, Ukraine, etc.).

Tell us again why Government is to provide "free" Healthcare,
...and how that improves the system that was in place?

*Please describe w/o Virtue Signaling.

At the core of the issue is the fact that providers will not deny you care because of the Hippocratic Oath. If you show up to an ER having a heart attack or with a compound fracture, they're going treat you regardless of your ability to pay for the services.

The costs of treating those who cannot pay must still be paid - doctors, nurses, orderlies, drugs, tools, and so on - and so those organizations increase the price of services to account for the deficit.

In the 1970s Nixon signed into existence HMOs which added yet another consideration for prices - one of the ways these entities profiteer on healthcare is by creating arbitrary redemption rates for providers that build in a guaranteed percentage into their bottom line for investors.

By the late 90s, that system had invented 'pre-existing conditions' and was driving profit by simply denying expensive procedures, and by the 2000s was increasing -their- price to consumers by 20% or more year over year - and that was all while receiving massive government subsidies.

Central payer systems eliminate the profiteering, cut out middlemen who pad their stock values with our tax dollars, reduce the percentage of GDP committed to healthcare (reducing total cost to we the people), and make healthcare services and necessary drugs far more accessible.

And if we follow the UK model of a two-tiered system, you don't even have to give up your overpriced for-profit healthcare if you truly prefer the immediacy it provides.

It is not due to any hippocratic oath.

It is due to basic human rights laws and to avoid litigation.

If that were true, society would be facing the same dilemma across sectors - housing, transportation, food, etc. - healthcare is a special case though because doctors swear an oath to uphold a set of ethical standards.

Incorrect.

The oaths are not the same at all schools.

The oaths are not legally binding.

The law states emergency medical services must be provided anyone experiencing a life threatening event.

Gone are the days of free Lortabs.

That is why you will not be treated for a toothache without some form of payment, for example.

Or an ear ache.

Or the sniffles.

Or a fear of porcupines.

Or the "I need a work excuse because I have a hangover" bottle flu.

All non life threatening.

You will be triaged and referred to a free or reduced fee clinic.

There is no housing and homeless crisis?

Everybody owns a car?

There are not Americans going hungry?

Yes, you will be cared for before they will ask you about payment.

The point is -even though we experience crises in each of those cases- we don't house, feed, or give people vehicles in this manner.

At what hospital do you work?

Currently, about a dozen across Texas in Dallas, Houston, El Paso, Midland, Brownsville, and Lubbock, including the state's largest provider of services for Medicaid and uninsured patients.

Not directly, of course - we're just hooked directly into their EMRs, facilitate billing, and monitor their patients post-discharge and between visits for affiliated doctor practices.

You remain incorrect.

In an emergency room setting, you will be triaged before you are are asked to provide insurance or pay.

If it is determined that you are NOT experiencing a medical emergency, you can be denied medical services if you have no ability to pay, if the physician believes you are drug seeking, or if you start acting a fool.

Non emergency visits to the ER take staff and resources away from those that are truly experiencing a medical emergency.

I'd ask where you believe I've said otherwise - the problem with not treating emergencies is they so often later become emergencies.

The untreated flu leads to pneumonia, the unset bone becomes a malunion leading to early onset arthritis, the laceration not sutured or treated with antibiotics becomes sepsis.

We ultimately pay the tab, and usually a far larger one because we refuse to pay less for a superior service everyone has access to.

You said otherwise several times in this stream/thread.

No, I absolutely did not - in fact, if you go back and read over it, you'll see I specifically led with this pertaining to emergency care.

You absolutely posed repeated arguments contrary to my repeated statement that if you have no insurance, no credit card, no cash, you will be refused service for medical treatment deemed to be non emergent.

You even went so far as to type that "not treating emergencies is that they so often later become emergencies" followed by histrionic laden verbage.

Perhaps you just realized your error..

Perhaps you misunderstood.

But you stated one cannot be asked to pay until they are provided care.

The law mandates that one only be provided an assessment.

That assessment is called triage.

Triage is when the nurse calls you in to the little room and talks to you, takes your bp and temp, etc., then sends you back to the waiting room.

Those deemed non emergency and lacking the ability to pay are bounced after the determination based on the triage assessment.

Quote them then.

SOURCE - Your several posts, written and submitted by you.

Surely you can read your own typing.

Besides, I did provided one direct quote that you published.

You do any additional research you need on yourself, well...yourself.

To quote your lord and saviour, Joey B., "C'mon they/them!"

Nonsense may work as a deflection to the people you spread dread to by mentioning "2025", but I see through it.

Stop playing. 😄

Don't forget the "hospital charge-master" and the intertwining of healthcare providers and insurance companies being significantly of root-responsibility for absurdly high medical bills.

And that's before you get into the damage done to workers by turning healthcare into an employment 'benefit' that effectively locks them into jobs.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/09/10/busted-kamala-harris-copied-her-long-awaited-policy-platform-from-another-website-n2179122
She has no original concepts.