I wonder if there is one

Ha. Name a country outside of America tgat allows free speech.

Not even America allows free speech anymore.

True

Savage

FACT

We still have it, but not for long.

The Democrats are busy day and night doing their dead-level best to muzzle dissent.

They don’t even claim to support it unless it is used to defend their kill the jew chants

Exactly precisely

You mean like unfeaturing memes on a stream you monitor?

Hahaha, one of your alts had an Unfeature? Bwahahaha.

Nope, I have nothing to do with that stream. Who does?
I do have something to do with the one that refeatured it:

imgflip.com/i/8npme5

8npme5.jpg (click to show)

Oh, the irony,,,

Yes the irony that a pee2 denizen is upset about being unfeatured. 😂

Is that your proof? Please post your proof I am interested to see it.

You don't remember unfeaturing it?
Look up your logs.

Show me yours

Nope, was from Real_Politics. Was.
Here, take a look at the memer's name: imgflip.com/i/8nsjdr

8nsjdr.jpg (click to show)

Well I guess it wasn’t what the moderator accepted for the site. As I was repeatedly told on another site. There is no requirement to post your meme. Try posting it to Politics maybe they will accept it.

Actually they did.
Hours after it was approved, YOU unfeatured it.

Beahahaha approved by who?

Go stand on the corner of main and 1st...nobody is stopping you from speaking.....rotflmao!

If I went outside and said that there's only two genders it would be the people that take me away. But the police will be doing that soon.

Always make sure you are armed, that way if people try to take you away for speaking facts , you can defend yourself. Those people will try to harm you because you are cracking their illusion with truth.

No. They will try to hurt me because it hurts the image of Satan. God bless anyone who has been a victim of such an incident, and may there be a gory agonizing death for those who do that shit.

Im glad you rewrote that last comment, you have to be careful what you say online .

Are you implying that you didn't like what I said? I rewrote it because I thought it was stupid and wanted to replace it with something better.

The new comment was much better, that is what I am saying .

Do you have an example? Post 1 news article, please.

Rotflmao!!! Good idea!

If anyone tries to hurt you over your opinions , make sure you defend yourself Paradise, no one should ever be assaulted over an opinion.

The left is always intentionally distorting language with wordsmith to suit their agenda. And the CIA agitprop commie media happily goes along with it because almost all of them are leftists themselves. This is their operandi modi, straight from Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals and the communist Manifestos of Marx, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Gramsci, et al.

Wrong. The standards of free speech haven’t changed, y’all are just denying that some of the things you say fall under unprotected speech

It's "unprotected speech"... not censorship

LMAO

Always has been. Hate speech, threats, and obscenity are not protected under the First Amendment. Always has been the case, always will be

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And yet the KKK was permitted to spread hate speech all over the US for well over 100+ years.

Hence the masks and late night hit and run activities in small towns in the South with a mainly sympathetic public?

Due to their involvement, as witnessed by said speech, the Southern Poverty Law Center and whatnot sued the KKK, thus breaking them financially, and thus effectively neutering them. That's why the KKK has been reduced to an outfit that sponsors the occasional summer parade and BBQ fest in obscure tiny towns in the South that let them. And that's it. They're done.

You realize that they were a recognized terrorist group before 2016, correct? Just because something is illegal doesn’t mean people don’t get away with it. Heck, insider trading is illegal yet congresspeople get away with it all the time

Bullcrap, there is no hate speech. Who defines it? You? bwahahaha. There are degrees of threat that are not actionable especially if there is no means to commit it. And you can yell f the police and not be arrested so how are you claiming there’s a law against obscene speech. You know nothing about free speech.

There is no hate speech? Sounds like you won’t listen to anything I say, then. I do hope you correct me on that thought

And obscene expression does not mean profanity is outlawed. It can be restricted, like how certain language won’t be aired on public broadcast until past certain times, if at all. Unprotected does not mean banned.

I know you don’t respect me enough to listen, but I hope you do give my argument a chance anyway

Sorry but the very term hate speech is anti-free speech and the difference between consequences and legal consequences are often great. If you want to go to Compton in a KKK robe and walk around screaming the N word there is no law to stop you, but there could be consequences including illegal infliction of harm.

As to obscenity, there is also no law against it, but you could be arrested for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace dependent on various factors. Free speech means the government not anyone else can muzzle you except in very few exceptions such as inciting a riot or yelling fire in a theatre as those are not protected

Hate speech in the United States cannot be directly regulated by the government due to the fundamental right to freedom of speech protected by the Constitution.[1] While "hate speech" is not a legal term in the United States, the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that most of what would qualify as hate speech in other western countries is legally protected speech under the First Amendment. In a Supreme Court case on the issue, Matal v. Tam. <- copy and pasted

Obscenity is also a form of expression which is protected , threats and calls to violence are the two that are not protected by the 1st.

Yup... limited speech promoters are always trying to move the goalpost on that all the time.

Obscenity is not protected by the first amendment, though I’ll concede that it’s definition is so vague that it’s barely enforced and mostly up to Supreme Court interpretation.

Though now I must ask you: if Hate Speech really is defended by the First Amendment, do you agree with that? For the sake of this argument, we’ll define Hate Speech as Slander or Libel towards a specific group of people, whether that be racial, ethnic, religious, or anything covered under Title XI

Yes 100%, hate speech is a slippery slope with a very steep slant downwards. When is something not hate speech, when you disagree? If you say anything against anyone they disagree with .. that can be "hate speech". Expression can not be made illegal or else we walk directly into an authoritarian world where we have no rights at all.

I completely agree with that sentiment. And I believe disagreement is 100% NOT hate speech, let me be clear. For example, if I said Biden was an alright president and you said he sucks, then you’d be in your right to say so. I wouldn’t appreciate it and would definitely debate you on that matter, but there’d be no legal action at all.

What happens is that people try to veil hate speech as mere disagreement, using the bare minimum to obtain plausible deniability and avoid consequences. I personally find that not only dishonest, but quite frankly cowardly too

See that is the problem, I truly believe the points I made during the debate were correct, and doing so, it is considered hate speech. You can burn the American flag, you can chant death to America, and no one can do anything about it, infact those pharses are particulary defended by your side of the aisle. But if I say that there are only two genders, that is considered hate speech.. when we regulate speech , the true ability to exchange ideas will be gone. I want you to be able to tell me I am full of shit , and give me your honest opinion about how you feel and think.. and I would like to think that you want me to be able to give me true feeling and opinions as well. That is the idea of freedom of speech. Becuase once we get through the disagreements, we can find common ground to build on. But if we can never reach that.. then the divide will only grow and animosity will breed.

I agree with your reasoning on freedom of speech. And I do agree that no one should be arrested for claiming there are only two genders all by itself. That’d be like arresting Flat-Earthers, or putting a kid under arrest for getting an answer wrong on a test. I’ll definitely say you’re wrong, and I have, but you have your right to defend your point, no matter what I think of it.

It’s when that rhetoric is used to fuel hate is where I draw the line. Heck, someone burning a Pride flag all by itself I think should be protected speech. I’m not endorsing that and think it’s horrible, just like burning an American flag, but that alone should not be a hate crime. It’s when a Pride Flag is burned and accompanied with rhetoric that can actively harm us or if done in a threatening manner (For example, burning said flag on a queer person’s front lawn) is where it can become a hate crime. And that’s what happens in just about every pride flag burning I’ve seen, so yeah, that’s hate speech. And once again so the mods don’t strike this down, I do not condone burning pride flags, or American flags, just trying to explain the legality of such.

And yes, those Death to America folk can definitely frick right off. I may be critical of many things in America’s system, but I still love America. I’d just like to see it improved because I know we can be better, kind of like how a mother can punish her child but still love them. That being said, definitely don’t agree with the common sentient here that President Biden wishes death to America, that’s just propaganda.

As for building on common ground, you are absolutely right. That is exactly what our democracy is supposed to be built on, and is pretty much how it worked until recently, and I’d argue that’s related to the Fairness Doctrine being revoked on news sites and paved the way for our partisan government today

100% ;D

I agree 100% on the fault of the media , I remember watching CNN and Fox and MSNBC late night, Bill O reily, BIll Maher, and many others.. and it was never like this constant push to divide us on base levels. But as long as we fight each other.. the powers that be will always be in charge. We disagree on things, but there is that common ground I spoke about, its there , we just gotta find it.

Amen. Heck, we’ve already found common ground here on free speech. It’s a start

Agreed , if someone uses slurs and insults instead of logical, fact based arguments to support their side of the debate , that is reprehensible. Unfortunately, it is still protected speech, even thought we both dislike it. Now my point of the slippery slope, the conversation we had earlier about gender, accodring to some hard core leftists , my entire side of the conversation was considered hate speech- or speaking facts that may seem insensitive, even on this site, I quoted murder rates in the black communites , and the fact sheet was taken down by a mod due to "racism". When we censor facts because they are deemed racist, that is the slope I am talking about. It is dangerous, and we have to protect speech, all speech, most of all, the speech we hate.

Well that conversation could definitely be argued as being hate speech, especially with a recent executive order that protects LGBTQ people’s under Title XI. That could be used to set precedent as being critical of said community based solely on how they identify as being Hate Speech. There’s nuance to that, of course, just, be careful that you aren’t spreading hate speech under the guise of disagreement. That being said, I believe that was not your intention

btw -> Obscenity refers to a narrow category of pornography that violates contemporary community standards and has no serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value. For adults at least, most pornography receives constitutional protection. copy and pasted

Yeah, that’s why I said it was vague, because arguments of these values can be quite subjective and tricky to rule on

Na its pretty clear actually, like pornography that is protrayed in a violently obscene way, like rape.. and of course child pornography are clear examples of not being protected by the 1st. Adult sex scenes, no matter how kinky, or hardcore, are protected examples. Also I believe I read something about how they are viewed, something about public and private viewing plays a big role in that as well.

Well yes, definitely those.

Sure... guess you ever heard of Lenny Bruce... or George Carlin

That doesn’t answer my question. And naming names of comedians who practiced dark humor isn’t a sufficient argument without providing more context. If you’re gonna comment something, you could at least pretend you care

Yes... I see you never heard of them... so you don't know their stories...thanks

Guess you didn't care enough...

It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that I’d rather hear your opinion instead of trying to distract from the question with your anecdotes.

I can safely say that People's Republic of China is the greatest country on earth with complete freedom of expression. It's the only thriving democracy on this planet. 🤡

North Korea is giving them a run for their money.

Nuke north korea.

Let's nuke China.

Nein. Who'll spread peace, and prosperity by removing earth's carbon footprint?

germany and all of western europe

Germany doesn't allow free speech, you can be arrested and prosecuted for critizing the government.

Or shouting nazi slogans, but apparently you can still spew hate on the Jews.

Seemslike the onyl thing you can't talk smack about is the poeple in charge, we can hate each other all day.. but God forbid you question or critique the Authority.

That’s because even they know how little real control they have if the people decide not to listen to their lies anymore.

100%

England doesn’t

Not Scotland or Ireland or Australia

I should probably have said “The U.K. doesn’t”.

I’m astonished by the persecution of speech crimes in the UK. I think they have outdone Russia with prosecutions.

Don’t leave out Canada, either.

Yes sadly the great white north has allowed their politeness to be utilized to enslave them linguistically as well.

Nuke the UK.

australia isnt in europe bro

Duh, the question was name a country outside the US. Australia is definitely outside the US. Nice but unsuccessful try at a gotcha.

dang so australia doesnt have free speech?

Nope, use the wrong pronoun or say unpopular things on the web and get arrested.

They will get what they deserve, everybody does. Some deserve slavery and others deserve freedom. The ones willing to fight for it deserve freedom.

bro the radiation of the nuke will turn the hostile wildlife into stranger things looking ahh creatures 💀

I'm blocking you.

Big whoop

what did i do to you

You disagreed with his/her opinion

bro did NOT have to block me for that 💀

I’m glad you defend America. It’s a great country but there is most definitely a push to limit free speech.

Are you saying we should get officialy rid of freedom of speech. The rest of the world is like that and look at the state of it.

Absolutely not, that doesn’t mean the left isn’t trying to limit it.

Yeah well, "Lead, follow or get out of the way." and we all know which the Left needs to pick.