Good Riddance!

You forget you would get rid of all that pesky oil and most of the refining capacity in the US, plus coal and food and all kinds of useless climate changing essentials.

Why don’t you also list the things the US would lose? Oil, oil refineries, cotton, 8.8% of the national GDP, and America’s Team

What's it going to do, keep the oil? Sell it to New Zealand to thumb the US in the eye?

Other than oil and real estate, how much more has it got to offer? Check out how housing dips once Texas steps into the loony unstable zone.

pfffft, they get 31 degrees for 3 days straight and them cowboys are hollerin' for FEMA to give them water while snow sits on the windowsill.

You obviously know nothing about the state

Miles and Miles of Nothing but Miles and Miles.

Driving across it doesn’t even begin to give you the complete story, but I know, you think you know it just because you stopped there for anothe cheeseburger and fries

2nd largest GDP in the country. You don’t get that by having just empty land

If they seceded, they would have more land, vacated by all of the US Defense Contractors located there since LBJ and Sam Rayburn started getting them put there when he was Senate President and Rayburn was Speaker of the House in the 1950's.

They may not vacate, as much as just build another plant to supply 2 different places. It’s not like reasonable people (which leaves libs out of the mix) would suddenly make them the enemy.

Federal Laws require that most Defense Contractors are US Owned and located.

Yep, but they won’t abandon what they have, just move and make a new division…

They will no longer be US located. National Security will be the first consideration. People who secede cannot get the necessary security clearance to work in a US Defense Factory. They are, by definition, adversaries. The laws are very clear on this.

Yes, they will move across the state line, but they will continue to sell to other countries. Look at Lockheed Martin or Raytheon…do you think they only serve the US?

My pos state commiefirnia

Or maybe it you that is confused…

From each ability
to each needs.

The U.S is one the few countries in the world that allows private ownership of oil, gas and other natural commodities. If the new country of Texas tried seizing this private property of United States citizens it would make them no different from Socialist Venezuela. Texas would need the taxes oil and gas could supply to offset the loss of industry from companies which would probably move all operations possible to less volatile localities. Texas grew when it had a stable, low-cost economy. It is developing into a politically unstable and otherwise is making itself into an unattractive candidate for capitol investment.

The possibility exists that Mexican politicians might take advantage of their own nationalism and support a movement to "Take back our Mexican land, Texas." The Texas National Guard would probably lose a war to Mexico. The US might allow Mexico to have Texas.

They should try to finish the sale of Calif to the Chinese first

If Texass seceded it'd last about a year and then they'd be begging to be let back in.

Exactly! They'd be asking where's FEMA after the the next Cat 5 hurricane or natural disaster.

Bullshit

Nope.

Got a link?

Do you?

you are the one that said something will happen, not I

Texassers are ones talking about seceding. But we both know they're actually too chickenshit to try it.

People talk shit all the time, but there’s still no reason to believe that if they left that they would be crawling back in a year.

They would get to keep 100% of all taxes collected.

That would be much more 💰 than the federal handouts provide.

They would hardly need all those federal employees if they were no longer part of the federation.

Besides, they could just send a crossdressing short guy in a tshirt to beg congress for money any time they needed it, being a foreign nation and all.

Unlikely to occur, requires the consent of the states.

Yet, Texas has a valid grievance; every state joined the union with the understanding that their sovereignty would be respected and protected.

It has not been.

Somewhat similar to Great Britain bailing out of the EU.

The United States does not have a national tax on the production of oil or gas. However, there is a marginal well tax credit that provides a $3-per-barrel credit for the production of crude oil and $0.50-per-1,000-cubic-feet (MCF) credit for the production of qualified natural gas. The credit is available for domestic production from a “qualified marginal well”. The tax on gas and oil are paid by the consumer.

I never mentioned oil, gas, or fuel production.

I was speaking to income taxes, social security taxes, medicare taxes.

They would need every penny to replace what they get in services, plus defend their borders.

That is precisely what I said.

Based on current party affiliation, the GOP would lose 2-Senators and 25-Congresspeople.

What excuse are they using this time? 😜

Texas seceded from Mexico in 1836, in order to keep slavery. Mexico had outlawed the ownership of people years earlier and gave Texas time to comply. They chose a bloody insurrection over granting black people freedom. Texas' reaction to the influx of brown-skinned people from the South is in keeping with their racist history.

Oh, wow, I did not know this.
Thanks for the info.

Your equating everything to race is vulgar.

The issue is not that they have brown skin.

You do know there are large numbers of Arabs, Chinese, and Eastern Europeans entering the US unlawfully as well, do you not?

The issue is that they are entering the country illegally by the hundreds of thousands.

Sucking up resources intended for citizens.

Overwhelming availability of housing, goods, food, and services, engaging in crime, adding to the dire homelessness issues that already existed.

What's the advantage to migrant?

What's the advantage to the US?

What do you get out of cheerleading illegal immigration?

I am opposed to illegal immigration. I have said so. I have never said that it is a good idea. I just don't use illegal immigrants as a political scapegoat, as do people who make extremist recommendations, like secession. Illegal immigration here, starts with a reason to emigrate, elsewhere. The world is in a period of chaos. That explains why people are uprooting in large numbers and assaulting our borders. Instead of coming together, recognizing that this problem is not going away on its own and doing something, the right-wing blames the left-wing who blames the right wing.

The United States, in spite of having the most stable and largest economy in the world, does not have the resources to solve every other country's problems. We set the best example we can by making our economy as much of a free market as possible to attract the brightest and most innovative capitalists from here and around the world. At the same time, unions and social movements temper hard-nosed "free-marketism," in order to keep the majority of workers and others engaged in the system. Without Capitalists there would not be the resources for Workers to thrive and without Workers there would not be the energy to create an economy that mostly profits those who put an effort forth.

Everything is not perfectly fair or perfect at all. But that should not keep us from trying to make things so. Perfection being a perception, leads to disagreements over what is important. In order for our system to continue, I think we need to encourage more of a live and let live attitude. That doesn't mean that we need to abandon all laws and norms. To paraphrase former Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. "Your perfect political-religious-economic philosophy ends at my nose." The "American Dream," requires compromise in order for everyone to experience it equally.

I believe we will get through these tough times and come out the other end to the times of "good enough is good enough for me." I can tell you who will lead the way. You will. When you are ready to live your life without having to force others to be exactly like you, you will win. When you win, your neighbor can win, and their neighbor, and their neighbor.

Not that old, tired, "nobody's perfect" nirvana fallacy.

The inability to employ a "perfect" solution does not forgive doing nothing.

Yeah...right, left, liberal, conservative, republican, democrat, need to either enforce the law, reinforce the law, or leave the border states to do what is necessary to ensure only legal immigrants enter the USA.

This is not Ellis Island in the 18-1900's. America was a large country with a small population then. They wanted people to come in droves.

Also, way back then, the government didn't dole out welfare. You were on your own. You don't do, you don't eat, have housing, get money in your pocket.

You said this was just about race/ethnicity.

"... in keeping with Texas' racist history"

What about the minorities that were born in American cities now overwhelmed by illegal immigrants?

Are they racists because they are angry that the illegal immigrants are absorbing all the available resources?

They are not people fleeing oppression.

They are not people fleeing the ravages of climate change - a ludicrous proposition.

You believe "Americans will get there".

I say they should not be in this position.

Your pretty words do not hide the ugly truth.

Thank you. I hope you find peace.

I am not looking for peace.

I am at peace.

I hope you quit "finding" racism that does not exist.

Merry Christmas to you, and to to you a good night.

Merry Christmas.

That’s only a portion of the reason, but you know that, right?

They know, they simply ignore.