Putting The Facts In Perspective

Everything on the left was funded and encouraged by democrats why would they have a problem with it?

I'm a democrat and did not encourage any of that.. and I think it was counterproductive to the anti-police brutality movement. Joe Biden also repeatedly condemned the violence, arson, etc.

You are basically making the claim that not every Nazi supported the party but stayed in the party. You voted for all the evil currently attacking this country, open borders filled with dangerous people willing to harm Americans, many already have, more will. Biden condemning violence he created is as meaningless as it would have been for Hitler to point out that he never personally gassed a Jew.

You are what you support, be proud of your party and when it turns on you or someone you love, own it, you wanted this.

I voted against the party with actual Nazis aka "deplorables" in it.... and that "open borders" kind of rhetoric is exactly why they vote red.

"Violence he [Joe Biden] created".. 🙄 more irony.... The anti-police riots were counterproductive to the movement but at least it wasn't built on a lie from the president. It was proven that officer Chauvin committed murder in a court of law. The "stolen election" that trump himself ranted about was proven nowhere except inside the minds of retrumplicans.

I don't even know where you think you're going with that argument anyway. Were there any undocumented immigrants rioting? Is it just a right wing knee-jerk reaction to just always rant about immigrants?

Your comments are just more proof that to the right it doesn't matter what Joe Biden does. BidenManBad. Always. People on the right said he was bad for allegedly not condemning violence (despite him condemning it)...and you're saying he did.... but its meaningless because he is bad. TDS for the right.

I don't agree lockstep with the left on everything, sometimes I just support something that is better than the alternative.

"The "stolen election" that trump himself ranted about was proven nowhere except inside the minds of retrumplicans."

The "stolen election" that trump himself tried to pull off on multiple fronts.

Yup. That would seem to be one additional layer to the sh*t cake.

If Joe Biden had made that phone call to Raffensperger asking him to "find votes" or had a scheme involving fake electors they'd be demanding his head on a pike.

“Encouraged by fringe agitators” including Donald Trump

TDS much, Py? 🤔

Alpha Male Trump vs Beta Male Biden (aka Gaffe Machine)
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Something's wrong. That doesn't look like Biden on Putin's lap. I think you need to fix that before someone comes along and smacks you up side the head.

Right as usual, Adam....

Pick a side, Py.

Never!

Was a federal building even damaged? I thought the Jan 6 protestors were let in.

They smashed windows and shit on the floor like dogs

Video footage of some of the Jan 6th "guided tour":

https://youtu.be/5rGmsXweEV0?si=kGPRqQCDK0cYs7TG

Video footage of that lady getting shot "being let in":

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572

The area apparently contained people from congress inside and had been barricaded... and yes there were 2 cops standing there but the retrumplicans were clearly breaking in.

So YES... It clearly was damaged.

What the f**k

Why would two things which lasted very different length of time have the same results?

Plus one wanted to rectify what they saw as a discriminatory practice,
The other wanted to overthow the USA

You're right. Trump did want to rectify what he saw as a discriminatory practice, aka massive voter fraud. And Antifa did and still does want to overthrow the United States. BLM was lead on by a corrupt media who put ratings over peoples lives. George Floyd OD'd.

✔️💯, Adam.

Where are the weapons? There has never ever been an insurrection without weapons. Where the stated goals? There has never ever been an insurrection without the stated goal of tearing the government down.

Why is it that the only ones who lost their lives were protestors. One was murdered by a Capitol police officer and the others were trampled to death in clear view of the Capitol police who did nothing.

YOU just called it an insurrection,
I just posted a pic and referred to one of Trump's fraudulent attempts to acquire fake votes to steal an election.

Trump was asking for a small handful of votes that were stolen from him.

He should ask the Tooth Fariy to give him back his stolen hair,,,

The tooth fairy didn't steal his votes, the World Economic Forum, the UN, the IMF, Soros, BlackRock, Vanguard and the Democrat party stole his votes. You see the difference is that the tooth fairy is not real. The WEF, UN, et al. are real and they are well funded to do anything.

That's nice, but, no.

I suppose if I said the sky is blue you would say no, it's green.

Massive conspiracy but wheres the proof

Are you Modda?

Prove they were stolen

The much, much, much harder job would be for you to prove that they were not and to use reliable (non-Democrat) sources. Democrats and neocon Republicans will swear up one side and down the other than the election was honest but it's just a smoke screen.

81 million votes for Biden, get real. Please tell me why the much more popular but equally rotten, Bernie Sanders didn't win the primaries? In fact how on earth did Biden even survive the primaries. He's a blithering idiot, he's always been a blithering idiot and now he's senile. He should have been the first one out of the primaries. How did he win? BTW the voter fraud has been happening for a while now and it is happening in the Democrat primaries as well. The Democrat Party has been bought and paid for by foreign sources who want to control and tear down the country.

The stated goals were to stop the certification of the election which they weren't allowed to do because it was a legal election

That was NOT their stated goal. EVERYONE that went there, with the exception of the FBI and a handful of Antifa nitwits, were there to protest a stolen election. Nothing more and nothing less. Then the FBI operatives started rousing the people to riot and that is when the riot started. No one went there to riot, they were coerced into it by FBI operatives.

At the exact same time the riot started the media started calling it an insurrection. The riot was planned by the Democrat party with the express purpose if trying to convict Trump of instigating an insurrection and thereby making Trump ineligible to ever run for any political office again.

Amendment 14 Section 3
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

This is the entire reason for the FBI's presence. This is why they instigated a riot and this is why the media called it an insurrection. Then they tried to say that Trump instigated in a speech he had given that the media conveniently never broadcast.

But it didn't work and that is the reason for indictment after indictment after indictment. Democrats are scared to death that Trump will be reelected. And Trump isn't even that great of of a president. He is not a hard core conservative. He's barely a conservative at all. He's been a Democrat most of his life. He even supported Clinton's unconstitutional "assault" rifle ban.

The one thing I really, really, really hope Trump does when he becomes president in 2024 (unless you guys assassinate him first) is open a not holds barred investigation into the corruption that is the Democrat party. I want to see people at the top finally get tried for the treason they have committed.

Pretty sure the handful of Proud Boys were also found guilty.

I mean they called it "Stop the Steal"... they went to the capitol.. on the day of the certification of the vote... broke into the capitol through windows and doors... chanted "stop the steal" once they got inside... some of them were actually found of guilty seditious conspiracy in a court of law... they were given millions of dollars from trump... and the whole reason they were there in the first place was because trump lied (and continues to lie) about the election being stolen from him.

.......but "the riot was planned by the Democrat party" ?? Where? When? Who? Source?

I think the Oath Keepers were railroaded, just like what the left is doing to Trump.

The "oath" they were "keeping" was their oaths they swore when they were in the military or law enforcement. They swore to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

I would say massive voter fraud, funded by foreign entities (the WEF, UN, IMF, etc), is a cause for defending the Constitution. But instead they got arrested and charged with sedition. So it begs the question, are we still the United States of America? Does our government follow the Constitution? Are our rights still protected by this government?

The answer is NO!!!

I don't know what the Oath Keepers were doing there. They didn't show up to storm the Capitol Bldg, that's for sure. No one did unless they were sent there by the FBI. Everyone else showed up to peacefully protest. It was Ray Epps (who bragged to his nephew that he started a riot) and his fellow FBI operatives who showed for the specific purpose of getting the people to riot.

When the left allowed foreign entities and money to corrupt our election process, America was over.

When Benjamin Franklin stepped out of the building where they were drafting the Constitution a woman asked him what will they give us. Franklin replied, a Republic for as long as you can keep it. We held on pretty long but you Marxists Progressives have destroyed just about everything now. Freedom and liberty are your enemies.

"The "oath" they were "keeping" was their oath.........to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic."

"I would say massive voter fraud, funded by foreign entities (the WEF, UN, IMF, etc), is a cause for defending the Constitution."

"I don't know what the Oath Keepers were doing there."

?????
🤔 Kinda sounds like you do.

Ray Epps is suing fox news for stuff about him allegedly being a fed. That would seem like a pretty crazy thing to do for someone who actually was a fed. I guess even if that is proven false in a court of law, it sounds like you don't believe in the judicial systen anyway.

The right is all about "Law and Order"...when it works for them.

No, I don't know what the Oath Keepers were doing there. I am not a member of Oath Keepers.

The fact is they had the right to be there, they just did not have the right to riot.

Ray Epps is going to get away with all of his crimes because the left is on his side. Just like when Dominion sued and won their case against Fox News.

There is a lot of videos showing Epps trying to stir up a riot. It is a matter of fact not fiction. You can hide behind a corrupt lawsuit to protect your world view but it does not change the fact.

Did you ever ask what exact was Epps doing there? Why was he in the Capitol Bldg during the riot but he never was detained, held, charged or even considered as one of the "insurrectionists"? Everyone else, who wasn't in the FBI, was held, indefinitely detained and a few of those indefinitely detained have been charged. But not Epps. Not any of the FBI agents.

The right is all about law and order, period. I want to see leftist criminals behind the riot go to prison. I want to see those who actually caused damage to the Capitol Bldg charged. I want the rest to be let go because they did not commit a crime. The Capitol Bldg is NOT off limits to the public. It never has been nor should it ever be. We The People have an absolute right to know exactly what our government is doing. If the Capitol Bldg ever becomes off limits to the public then we become an authoritarian oligarchy.

I want to see Bill Ayers and his cohorts in prison for bombing the Capitol Bldg in the early 70's and 80's.

I want all of the leftist DA's actually prosecute crimes instead of letting anyone in California to walk into a Best Buy and walk out with a PlayStation without paying for it and never get arrested. So don't give me this "The right is all about "Law and Order"...when it works for them". That's utter BS. It is the left who rioted, looted and murdered for nearly all of 2020 all over the country and only a handful have ever been charged with anything. None of it was ever stopped by law enforcement. The law was held back and let it all happen.

Biden and Hillary can have all sorts of classified documents stored all over the place but Trump takes a few documents home and the left goes ballistic. Let me remind you, Trump has a legal right to remove classified documents as long as he was president, which he did. But Biden and Hillary had no right whatsoever. Where's their trial????

Well the Oath Keepers were either brave patriots, defending the constitution from domestic enemies.... or they were sheep, duped by the FBI.

"Why was he in the Capitol Bldg during the riot but he never was detained, held, charged"..?

Ray Epps was charged and plead guilty to disorderly or disruptive conduct on restricted grounds.

What was he doing there? Same thing as the rest of the trump supporters who believed the "stolen election" lie. Not sure who on the left is really "on his side" though.

Given that the police were vastly outnumbered, many people were not arrested that same day.

If you have any actual evidence Dominion truly did whatever Fox News says they did, you should probably send it to them.

"Laws have been on the books since 1946 controlling public access to the Capitol. Congress tightened restrictions in the 1970s.. and again in the late ’90s....Now, the only public access to the Capitol is through the visitor’s center and even that has been shut off due to the pandemic." -wusa9.com

When someone in the government packs up and leaves it's not super crazy that some classified documents might end up in their possession.

However if the National Archives repeatedly asks you for the documents and you keep them anyway, and you hide them, and you or your lawyers lie about having them, and you talk about the contents of them with random rich people....THAT is kind of a problem. And illegal. And as far as I know, not what happened with Biden.

But if what he did was also illegal, I'm sure the right will try to impeach him (or later indict him) for it.

Still waiting for that massive voter fraud proof let's see it

No you're not. You ignore the mountains of proof because you can't stand the idea of Trump winning another election.

And Ashli Babbitt commmitted suicide

No she did not. They even awarded the cop who murdered her, over $10,000. There are images of her trying to stop a guy from breaking a window when she was shot.

Images? There is VIDEO of her trying to hop through a smashed window in a barricaded area when she got shot.

https://youtu.be/SjscskqLx0U?si=jw3LsretDlpI9Ujc

If she wasn't intentionally committing suicide by cop, Babbitt got the f*ck around and find out Darwin award.

That's not the video I saw. The one I saw was from farther away and it appear she was trying to stop some one from breaking that window.

The video you posted is pretty brutal and I still think that cop murdered her. She was unarmed. What was she going to do. You cannot say the cop didn't know she was unarmed, it was very clear from her crawling through the window that she had no weapons.

It was a long way from where she was to the House chambers and as we saw when the police was giving Buffalo dude a guided tour of the Capitol Bldg, the House chambers were locked.

Did you ever wonder what happened to those Pro-Palestinians who also stormed the Capitol Bldg and interrupted the House proceedings, last week? I know. Nothing. So you can storm the Capitol Bldg ONLY if you are in support of a leftist cause.

That's why Bill Ayers is walking the streets after him and his group set off a bomb in the Capitol Bldg in the early 70's and then again in the early 80's. It was at Ayers house where Obama announced he was running for president. Ayers has had a good life because Ayers is a radical communist and socialists, communists, nazis and fascists all get a free pass whenever they murder people.

"What was she going to do."

Ohhh.... I dunno...... Maybe not blindly believe a conman lying about the election. Maybe not join in the "stop the steal" mob at the Capitol. Maybe not enter the Capitol after they broke in. Maybe not try to be the first one entering a barricaded area through a window when a cop has his gun drawn and someone is yelling "hey he's got a gun". That would be a couple things she could have not done.

"It was very clear from her crawling through the window that she had no weapons."

Unless you have x-ray vision or something it seems it would be pretty hard to say what was in her backpack without opening it.

"Once we barricaded the doors, we were essentially trapped where we were. There was no way to retreat. No other way to get out. If they get through that door, they’re into the House chamber and upon the members of Congress" - Officer Byrd

According to him he also repeatedly told them to get back.

I'm not surprised that Ashli got shot. I'm surprised that many more people did not get shot.

"Did you ever wonder what happened to those Pro-Palestinians who also stormed the Capitol Bldg"

300 of them got arrested. Did they smash windows to get inside? Did they beat policemen with flag poles? Did they have a cache of guns stored just in case? Did the name of their group reference the overthrowing of an election?

Looks like Bill Ayers turned himself in
but case against him was dismissed because of prosecutorial misconduct. Not sure what the specifics on that are.

Do you seriously think that just because Trump said there was voter fraud that is the ONLY reason why people think there was voter fraud? Come on... get serious. I knew that the 2020 election was going to be stolen by the way the left acted when Trump won the 2016 election. Hillary was supposed to have won that but the voter fraud calculations were off. They didn't account for the electoral college. That is why Dems no hate the electoral college.

No one had to tell me there would be fraud, I just knew it was going to happen because it already had been happening. People started complaining about watching their votes change on those Dominion voting machines when Obama got them into America to win re-election. No president in the history of this nation who gave us a bad economy has ever been re-elected except for Obama. What made Obama so special? What it his winning personality? His charm and wit? No, it was voter fraud, plain and simple.

Did anyone have any weapons on J6? No. This is because of two things. Despite the Heller decision, Washington DC does not allow people to exercise their the 2nd amendment rights. The other reason is because the riot was NEVER in the plans. It was a peaceful protest, just like every other conservative protest. The riot was planned by the Democrats and coordinated with the FBI.

"300 of them got arrested. Did they smash windows to get inside? Did they beat policemen with flag poles? Did they have a cache of guns stored just in case? Did the name of their group reference the overthrowing of an election?"

If what you are saying is true then what were they charged with? Was it as severe as the punishment the J6 protesters got? I don't know if they had guns but I do know that none of the J6 protesters or rioters had guns. Did the name of the J6 protesters reference overthrowing the government?

Think for a second about why. Why do you think that conservatives, who love this country more than any Democrat, who love and honor the Constitution, who love the rule of law, why would ANY of them want to overthrow the government. What they wanted to do is stop a major crime. Stop the steal did not refer to overthrowing the government, it referred restoring honesty and integrity into our election system. That's it. Nothing more.

If after the recounts failed, the audits failed, and the lawsuits failed, trump had came out and said "hey.. you know what.. I guess I was wrong. Sometimes people are wrong. Joe Biden didn't steal the election. That guy... He doesn't even know wtf is going on. How could he steal an election? Believe me. He couldn't." ...And he just conceded the election, and had not made a speech indicating he did not want Mike Pence to not certify the election. I don't think Jan 6th would've happened.

".... the voter fraud calculations were off."
What...?? 🤔

As far as the electoral college ya it is an interesting thing to essentially say hey guys, my votes are worth more than yours.

"No president in the history of this nation who gave us a bad economy has ever been re-elected except for Obama."

What metric are you basing "bad economy" on? Obama inherited a market crash from Bush and it got better under his watch.

"Why would ANY of them want to overthrow the government.... restoring honesty and integrity into our election system. "

It's like you're answering your own questions and not realizing that you are.