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Change My Mind | THEY DON'T "ASSIGN YOUR GENDER" AT BIRTH; THEY OBSERVE YOUR BIOLOGICAL SEX | image tagged in change my mind | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
528 views 61 upvotes Made by boredmeme 1 year ago in politics
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They don't assign gender, they recognize gender
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Imagine asking a new born baby "hey you wanna have a penls or a hole?"
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Tommy Lee Jones with newspaper | THE ONLY THING THAT GETS ASSIGNED AT BIRTH IS YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER | image tagged in tommy lee jones with newspaper | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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It's time to stop letting these neolibs redefine language. They do that when nobody is paying attention, with the help of their sycophants in the media, then if you legitimately ask why are we are all of a sudden assigning anything instead of doing what has worked for thousands of year, you're the one who is causing a problem. It's nothing more than one tactic in the overall strategy of trying to re-wire peoples' brains to think like they do, like socialists / communists. The entire practice is not only sickening, it's about as anti-liberty and anti-freedom as it gets.
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Neoliberals, talk about redefining language,,,
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Facts!
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Acknowledging this and acting on it, actually solves a lot of issues.
Don't put "gender" on a birth certificate. Put biological sex, since that's what's medically relevant.
Don't separate sports by gender, separate them by biological sex, sense that's where the biological advantage lies.
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Ok.

Question:
A veteran is doing a combat tour and tries to diffuse an IED, it goes off, he survives but it's blown off most of his legs and his genitals.

He now no longer has the male sex organs he was born with. He's not trans in any other sense, but medically, he does not have male sex organs anymore.

What gets changed on his birth certificate under the "biological sex" category? I'm asking you, specifically, boredmeme, what would happen if you were in complete charge of our system?
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Even though this is a blatant strawman, I'm going to respond to it.
First off, a birth certificate is a record of BIRTH. Nothing about the situation of his birth has changed.
Second, he still has male genetics, male hormones, and probably still has an intact prostate. So the biological markers are still there.
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There's a lot that's happens to us that is medically relevant. It doesn't all go on birth certificate.
And since we are supposed to treat everyone the same, gender is completely irrelevant anyway. Biology matters more.
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....so then you were wrong about the birth certificate being a gathering of medically relevant information?

Just trying to get you to make up your mind, here. I can't work with something you haven't decided on yourself.
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Trying to wring sap out of this strawman at this point is a tad....
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Good grief... is this really how the neolib brain thinks?

Okay, dumbing myself down to address this... does the soldier still identify as male? If yes, then he's male.

The soldier, and anyone else with common sense would probably ask, why is this even being discussed? What is the issue here? The answer is insane neolib politics, that's the issue.
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No, because that's not what Neoliberalism is concerned with.
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OK, so it's done by self-assessed identity? OK, then. Good talk.
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Almost nobody has their DNA scanned at birth
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They can do so at any time, and barring the occasional minute mutations, the genes remain the same.
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OK. To this day literally nobody's scanned my DNA, though. Have they scanned yours?
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What part of BIRTH certificate is getting lost here?

Any pertinent medical records can be accessed as such if needed for medical purposes, etc. No one's birth cetificate gets altered everytime someone stubs a toe.
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Exactly. A birth certificate is documentation of identity, not medical information. That's boredmeme's mistake.

And since identity is something that can be changed over the course of a person's lifetime...

...I mean, I changed my name on my birth certificate by court order. As long as you're not doing it for fraudulent purposes, they let you do that. The judge didn't even blink. The name on my birth certificate is not the name I was given when I was born!

So why not with gender?

If nobody's ever once scanned my DNA - even *I* don't know what's in my DNA - then all gender ever was and ever will be is a subjective judgement call based on things like the shape of my jawline, the cut of my hair, the choice in my clothing... ALL OF WHICH CAN BE CHANGED.

So what is so set in stone about that field of the birth certificate?
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No, that was not boredmeme's mistake.
It was a strawman that you tossed in, which boredmeme pointed out.

Here, have another look:

▶️ "boredmeme 8h

Even though this is a blatant strawman, I'm going to respond to it.
First off, a birth certificate is a record of BIRTH. Nothing about the situation of his birth has changed.
Second, he still has male genetics, male hormones, and probably still has an intact prostate. So the biological markers are still there"

Sometimes you just have to acknowledge facts and move on. Or just move on. Digging that hole any deeper don't make that hole any less of a hole.

btw, the name on mine was changed when I was in 1st grade. So that scintilating shocker wore off before I even learned how to add double digit numbers and when XX & XY were still XX & XY - which basically means I'm at least older than 5, when this backfiring distraction was inventeded. In St Petersburg.
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correct 😌
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