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How exactly were the Nazis “anti fascist”? Seems like a bit of an oxymoron there.

More like Antifa are the same type of fascists the Nazis were regardless of their phony claims of anti fascism, but then fascists and communisss are single thought/party of totalitarians so not really a surprise.

The left has a very serious problem of not recognizing fascism when they see it. Especially when it is coming from them. That's because when WWII started all of the Progressives in America did everything in their power to distance themselves from the fascism and Nazism they once proudly and openly embraced. They had infiltrated our educational system and started pushing this narrative that Communism and Socialism are on the authoritarian left, while fascism and nazism are on the authoritarian right. While it is partly true, it is not at all the complete picture. Freedom is not and never was found in between the authoritarian left or the authoritarian right. You see the scale shoots way off to the right, way past the authoritarian right.

On the extreme left you find the authoritarians and on the extreme right you have total anarchy, total freedom. No government at all. It's not the anarchy found in some communist groups who only want to use anarchy as a means to tear down the existing and replace it with communism. This anarchy does not want any government, ever.

Just a few steps to the left of anarchy is where the United States Constitution and our founding fathers are. Very limited government and total freedom without the option of that freedom infringing on the rights of others.

Libertarians are either with the Constitution or just a step to the right of the Constitution

Conservatives are with the Constitution or a step to the left.

Democrats are anywhere between the extreme authoritarian left and the authoritarian right. Republican party leadership are between the authoritarian right and the Constitution.

There is a huge gap between the authoritarian right and the Constitution. There is no gap between the authoritarian left and authoritarian right. They have minor differences but their outcome is identical.

In other words Antifa is also Protifa all at the same time. Communism, Nazism and fascism are all just minor variations of socialism which, since Marx, is all Marxism.

Oh, they’re really great at finding fascism - when they look in the general direction of someone they don’t agree with.

they’re marxists so they’re not exactly anti-fascist. Because let’s just be honest, marxism ain’t much different from fascism or totalitarianism.

You're confusing Marxism and communism and socialism - with totalitarianism - which isn't a given. The Paris Commune wasn't totalitarian. Vietnam and Cuba aren't really, either. There's other Communist theorists, like Bakunin and some others - that tend to push more in an Anarchistic direction... So my point is Marxism is actually multiple tendencies, in reality, and mostly a school of dialectical economic analysis - of the inevitable failures of capitalism, as a model.

As for "ANTIFA" - there's a bunch of different tendencies which come together under that banner. Everything from Marxist-Leninists, to Maoists, to Anarchists, to Agorists and Voluntarists...even some obvious Democrats. They're mostly united by what they oppose - racism, jingoistic nationalism and militarism (in theory) - more when a guy like Trump is in office, sadly...than when a Biden or an Obama come to power. With some, their ideological commitments (or lack thereof), contradictions and inconsistencies will then come to the fore... But nothing is really universal, because they organize around (allegedly) shared points of unity, and some ideas - like mutual aid, and sometimes solidarity (with each other, and perhaps people of color, the dispossessed - hell, even the working class in some instances, but obviously not in others). There is NO GRAND LODGE of ANTIFA. There are no Charters, or hard and fast rules - except perhaps within local groups who apply that moniker to themselves.

Which can lead to some problems - including COPS and Feds and Spooks putting on Black clothes and masks (like "Umbrella Guy" in Minneapolis - identified by his ex- as Officer Jacob Pederson of the St. Paul police - who started the rioting over George Floyd, there - at the Auto Zone, before the State moved in to Prosecute Chauvin and his accomplices), or getting "assets" and informants to do the same. The team that ignited a lone aging cop car, left unattended, right in the middle of an intersection on Beverly Blvd, right in front of a BLM march (that was scheduled to be peaceful and nonviolent), would be an example. Those guys look to have been "assets" if not cops and agents - who came prepared with tools and an accelerant, an igniter, spray paint cans, etc.. One act like that at a nonviolent event - can give the cops the excuse they're waiting for, to declare an "Unlawful Assembly" - begin deploying teargas, and assaulting the peaceful protestors...the Agent Provocateurs rarely, if ever, get picked up.

The Zelensky Ukraine simps are still trying to convince us that the azov battalion is not a nazi military

american communists are a scatterbrain.

Socialists!

Hahahaha Touché! Their the ones that like to forget inconvenient history

yea but is he president? KKlinton and KKarter were

Southern racists are southern racists no matter whom they vote for.

Trump is more a Democrat than a Republican. Which should make him appealing to both sides. He doesn’t because he appeals to the fringe republicans ie the people who rioted and wanted to kill our representatives.

Confederates are scum.

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Jimmy Dore isn't Republican or a Confederate. He's a lefty - just like Max Blumenthal (who was there that day). Like two other left Journalists I know, who were on Capitol Hill that day - he reports that the coverage you've no doubt been bombarded with,( on Corporatist media, and during the Monoparty's poorly rated Melodrama miniseries) grossly distorted what things were like there, that day. Long story short... It was a huge PSYOP and a set-up. "Fed" Agent-Provocateurs abounded. Police presence was deliberately left at a minimum. All with the goal of criminalizing protest. 0 cops were killed. But at least one unarmed protestor was.

And now hundreds of innocent people are waiting without bail, in solitary confinement, or have taken plea deals - for commiting the crime of dissent.

These folks may not be our friends, or share our politics - but the precedents being set are incredibly dangerous - for all of us.

Yes. Trump Supporters are liberal conservatives who kowtow to Confederate scum.

But to say hundreds of people are being held without bail because of politics and are innocent is a huge stretch that doesn’t line up with the facts.

It’s closer to 50-100, in other words dozens, as I originally claimed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/06/how-many-people-charged-jan-6-riot/10965483002/

There have been hundreds incarcerated (they are post-trial) but most have alresdy served their sentence. Most from home or community service.

Several police offers were attacked. Some died from injuries, some even committed suicide. The people who are still behind bars or still waiting trial were likely the people who assaulted police officers.

Being a Republican doesn’t excuse that behavior nor do your politics make you immune to the consequences of the law.

No. One police officer "#Died Suddenly" after the event, not at it. That's A LIE - as shown by the videotape released by Carlson. He was fine while at the scene. He had recently been injected with the toxic mRNA Slurry, most likely. https://youtu.be/8-M2GttKSNM

ONE human being - being TORTURED for years on end, in a jail cell, alone - is one too f-ing many. Quit making excuses for FASCISM, dude. I know of one very decent guy (an extremely gentle soul, a gay man from Los Angeles) who has been FALSELY CHARGED, and is being held without, for months now. His crime, having a bullhorn, believing an election had been stolen* and being there, at what was a permitted political rally. One's politics should not be a factor, for violating one's 1st Amendment rights. https://youtu.be/CESuLXqloKk

It was a DELIBERATELY MANUFACTURED PSYOP incident. Hundreds of Feds were there undercover - committing and encouraging acts of violence. The few Police positioned at the scene, were calling for back-up and instructions. They were ignored and left there, without aid - deliberately. The Cop in the MAGA hat - was a Democrat. He put that hat on, in order to fit in with the crowd, deescalate the situation, and be accepted, so that he could aid fellow officers, and do his job better. He got forced out of his job and lost his pension - for his acts of conspicuous courage, under very difficult circumstances. https://youtu.be/uYlbaL6S_gM
https://youtu.be/Sc0NWVGIRAA

The "Intelligence" chief, who totally failed to prepare for a crowd of the size that I KNEW** months ahead if time, was going to be coming - was PROMOTED for what amounts to eithr deliberate malfeasance, or signal ineptitude. First she was made the Temporary Chief of the Capitol Hill Police - and then given a lateral move to be the Head Cop at UC BERKELEY (from which, you can see Nancy Pelosi's district). That:s what you call "a payoff".

https://youtu.be/wRlPBl3o2GU

* Just like I felt in 2000 and 2004. Just like every duped $hillary Clinton supporter felt and maintained for 4 years, begining in 2016. Like every Bernie Sanders supporter has known correctly since 2016 & again in 2020. https://blackboxvoting.org/proof-of-fraud/

**Just by being well-informed, from California, and not being in any way affiliated-, or enamored- with, Trump supporters. I am NOT a Republican - I'm Peace & Freedom.

“No. One police officer "#Died Suddenly" after the event, not at it.”

I never claimed they died at the event. Please read.

I said some died from injuries. Total one. More died from suicide due to trauma of the event.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

Sorry, but if you’re going to be pissy about my error of using some, that more than validates my own for finding your own exaggerations in error.

No one in jail is in jail for political reasons.

They’re in jail for assaulting police.

“ONE human being - being TORTURED for years on end, in a jail cell, alone - is one too f-ing many.”

That would be everyone in jail.

You sound more like a Democrat now.

So I wouldn’t begin to think you a Republican or a Trump Supporter.

But you are an exaggerator and an alarmist.

I'm trying to reply to you where it makes sense in the thread. Your comments are often running to the edge of the page - leaving me only a few options - either reply out of context to a comment of your's elsewhere on the page - or to whomever you were speaking - at the time we hit the limit.

Alternatively, I could cut and past your comment, and reply to it in an original comment... But that wouldn't send you a notification, either.

I don't blame you for running to the edge of the page - so don't blame me for replying where the site architecture allows me to do so, the best, in my own estimate.

It would actually if you reply to me elsewhere, provided it’s in the same thread but earlier so we can actually converse if that is your intent and not to drive by comment. And with either a link to the original comment I made or quoting me in quotations.

"Why don’t I call out Biden for his associations? Because none of his policies are strictly nationalist or socialist. He is more of a conservative than Donald Trump. A center-left conservative, but conservative none the less."

In fact Biden's policies ARE CORPORATIST in the extreme. And that is another way of say "Corporate Socialism". It's been the way we've been heading since the Civil War, kicked into high gear since the Great Depression and the New Deal... I'm opposed to THAT - but not human socialism - meaning a system which firces aore equitable distribution (not re-distribution, per se) of the surplus value generated by the American economic engine. We need not ENCOURAGE ever increasing economic disparities, and greater productivity, not resulting in a concomitant rise in wages. Since Reagan, productivity has increased, workers wages have stayed flat, or gone down in real terms. It reflects the diktats of the Trilateral Commission's "The Crisis of Democracy', and the Chamber of Commerce's notorious "Powell memo".

Biden is a Center-right conservative - your antenna are broken. If he were center left - he'd be for some kind of free healthcare - aside from Mandatory LETHAL INJECTIONS.

As to States ceceding...
You must NEVER have read the Federalist Papers - in which Madison argues that no State would be TRAPPED in the Union, if it wasn't working out. It was a selling point. It was never decided as a matter of law - only by Military Force - and then decisions pointing at that De Facto outcome as if it were De Jure.

"The Donbas region has been war torn for far too long and if Putin wanted to annex them he should’ve. But no, he went for the whole of Ukraine..."

Except that NONE of that actually is true. Ukraine was NEVER a Nation State - the word mean Borderlands. All of the East has been Russian, since Peter the Great. The West was part of the Polish-Lithuanian thing and Austria-Hungary. It was united under the Soviets. The people in the East are Ethnic Russians, and Russia-speaking Eastern Orthodox. The West are Catholics. The OUN murdered hundreds of thousands of Poles, Romanians, Romany, Jews , Russians and even many Ukrainians who simply opposed their fascist psychopathy. Russia had offered many attempts at settlement, including the Minsk AGREEMENTS. NATO and Ukraine SOUGHT war. Now they're going to lose the East and South. And there will be "Regime Change" in Kiev.

You can change the regimes all you like but they’re are far too many people in Ukraine to actually hold the region peacefully. They’ve fought too long and deserve independence and if they want an alliance with NATO, then that is their decision, not Russia.

There is nothing Putin or Russia can do but accept the fact that the west has won both the culture war. This invasion is nothing but the final howling death cry of the old Soviet Union. It’s final push to unify and remain globally relevant. It will fail.

Putin thought he was playing the long game. He should’ve taken more and better queues from China rather than Nazi Germany or the United States. Russia needs to either step up or step down. It’s nothing but a big empty threat. And the War in Ukraine proves it.

It’s no longer Russia versus the US. It’s now China versus the west.

And we will win.

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@Gumshoe - Pardon the Mr. Rogers part - this was from an older comments thread, that got a bit heated.

If Republicans must be subject to guilt by association - because a small percentage of Trumpists carry Confederate Battle Flags... Then why is the Leader of the Brandon Regime, not subject to the same critiques - when he pals around with unrepentant Klansmen - and Nazi Coup Government leaders, like Poroshenko?

If you support the right of States to break away from a Federal Union - then who is the Confederate, really?

If you support the right of States (Oblasts) to break away - then how can you not honor the desire of the People's Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk to break away - as they have now legitimately and overwhelmingly voted to do? Why did Ukraine get to default on their OBLIGATIONS under the Minsk Accords (signed by Poroshenko) to respect the independence and autonomy of the Donbas Republics?

Why don’t I call out Biden for his associations? Because none of his policies are strictly nationalist or socialist. He is more of a conservative than Donald Trump. A center-left conservative, but conservative none the less.

When Biden began mandating vaccines, possibly the only real civil liberties he tread on, I was strictly against it. But at least this policy was both temporary and with enough wiggle room for interpretation and exemption. Something that Republicans could stand to utilize more often in their anti-libertarian legislation.

I don’t support the right of states to seceded. I said I was extremely against it due to it being an incredible economic disaster and that it was not feasible. If the federal government was dissolved, and states could be economically independent, have their own militias, and such then yes, that would be acceptable but it is a pipe dream due to the size and population of some states. Morons on the right who propose doing this are not just traitors to the Union but are completely shortsighted in the overall outcome. Maybe in 500 years, assuming some states absorb other states and two or three bigger states broke up, then maybe we can have a civil divorce but doing so now will only create more monopolies, and decentralize power within what independence states have over the federal government. Prisons will get larger, wars between states may eerily, it’s just not practical to do so. And the people who desire it most tend to be on the right. And they’re idiots.

The Donbas region has been war torn for far too long and if Putin wanted to annex them he should’ve. But no, he went for the whole of Ukraine because these regions, similarly, cannot economically stand on their own. They are as a part of Ukraine as Manhattan is to New York. You could annex Manhattan from the state but it would quickly devolve economically into what Chicago or Detroit are right now overnight. Possibly worse.

@Gumshoe allowed 100 primates to pound nonsensically upon a keyboard - resulting in this gem:

"Also, your Confederates defending BS is moot when southern states actively legislate discriminatory legislation and policy that make confederate scumbags cheer.

Cheers."

Who TF do you think you're talking to?

I'm neither a Trumper, nor a Confederate, nor a "Southern Man" ala Neil Young (before he became an irrelevant old jab Nazi). I'm not defending anyone in particular, nor any particular ideology - even though I may find it to be odious, admittedly. As with the followers or Trump, like with you - in your support of the Banderite Nazi Genocidal ideology, amongst Western Ukrainians, and their NATO/US/UK/Canadian-Nazi backers. I support the freedom of speech and of conscience - both of which are granted by the Creator to all mankind, and respected by all just forms of law and Government. I don't however support the Psychopathic and GENOCIDAL implementation of the Banderite ideology... So no on Babi Yar, Volhyna, and the Rape of the Donbass Republics... But if they want to peacefully believe in their despicable chauvinism and Ukraine Uber Alles ULTRA Nationalism, in the privacy of their own homes - I'm not going to stop them.

You don’t have to support Ukraine either and supporting Russia is dubious af.

I do support Ukraine’s independence and solidarity, as I would any country. I would be more than happy to support the US states becoming individual countries, with the complete dissolution of the federal government, however, realistically the economic independence of each state is incredible suspect as well as the military divisions would put several states at an extreme disadvantage. Arguably, staying a country is the better of the two options as no state other than maybe a couple, can be reasonably become fully independent without severe pitfalls economically. So I am perhaps a little extreme in my viewpoint of any state seceding from the Union. Or any group proposing it.

I’m well aware of the bogus excuse for flying the confederate flag, and it completely ignores the history and meaning. It is as ominous to me as Ukrainians using the Nazi flag for the same purposes of solidarity.

But believing Ukraine is a Nazi nation would be as ill-perceived as believing the US is a confederacy because some dumbf**ks choose to fly an odious flag.

That said, ignoring that these same groups overwhelmingly support liberal policies to counter individual rights, even from mainstream and establishment elements of my own party is as important for me to speak up as it would be liberals speaking up on the errors of their own odious factions.

Ignoring them or passively supporting them, or worse as Republicans do, say they’re not modern Jim Crow laws for minority groups. It’s great that Republicans aren’t entirely targeting black Americans, especially those who’ve been citizens for generations, but targeting non-Christian groups, LGBT groups, or immigrants is counterintuitive to the founding principles of the party founded by Lincoln.

And using historical origins as a crutch to further a nefarious agenda, while ignoring those same excuses and reasons were exactly what founding Republicans stood against.

Reminder - I'm not a Trump supporter EITHER. I'm an Antifascist and a leftist, going back to the days of my youth, in the 1970's. I have no love for Confederates and/or rightwingers, or rightwing politics... But I try to be FAIR - even to my opponents - though I realize that they will rarely return the favor. People are entitled to even the most horrifying and abhorrent of views...so long as the Constitution, is more than just a piece of paper.

Because of Joe Biden's about-face from questioning of-, and suggestion that he might refuse- the Experimental Synthetic mRNA Gene Therapy injections (aka the "OPERATION WARP SPEED" - "Trump Vaccines") - to them unlawfully forcing them onto everyone that he possibly could...I have begun collaborations with many Trump supporters here in LA, people that in most cases during his time in office, I would most likely have been protesting AGAINST, and not alongside.

You know what I've found..? Often, they're very decent, well-intentioned people, with strong religious convictions, and generally good character. These aren't OVERTLY racist people, typically. But I'm in LA - where we have no connections to the Confederacy, and you NEVER see a Confederate flag... And I've soent hours of my life arguing in vain to Dukes of Hazard fans about why that show is in many ways offensive, and functioned very much as an attempt to normalize and rehabilitate the NeoConfederate movement.

Unconsciously, and unknowingly I think at points that yes these folks are, or say things that would indicate that they are in rather mild ways, they are racist...but I can say that about more than 70% of the population - and plenty of Democrats, too. I know leftist libertarian Election Integrity Activists who support Voter ID laws - and I argue that it's a genuflection towards a racist/ethnocentric impulse, over a Non-existent "problem" amplified by racists like KKKris Kobach. Alright, I get that, and as a "state Citizen"/"American National", of the California Republic state - ie one of "the people of California" - and NOT a 14th Amendment "US citizen" - I'll never take an ID from the Government - if it makes me prima facie property of THE STATE, and collateral on a debt to the Federal Reserve.

But my lefty friends don't even get that. They just point to the Elections in Honduras and Nicaragua, and Colombia (where they were observers) and the fact that everyone in those countries had to produce an ID, to vote. Personally I think it's unnecessary.

"The west doesn’t have to win.

It’s already won."

Really?!?! As the US and EU economies CRASH - and China and Russia's continue to grow? This suicidal exercise, on behalf of a last ditch attempt at creating and maintaining a Global Monopolar Hegemonic Empire (the subject of the Brzezinski nook, and the failed Cheney doctrine) - was always doomed. First is spread needless misery abroad - now it does so at home. Maybe we should check with President Guaido, if he'll us out, when the Saudis and Iranians join BRICS - and dump the Petro dollar?

The US and EU have self-isolated. Along with Zionist abomination, they're properly understood as a blight upon the planet. And the rest of the World sees it.

"You cannot invade any country that does not want you there and expect to hold it."

Sounds like good news for the Syrians and Palestinians, then.

Lucky for the Russians that the Eastern Ukrainians almost all welcome them, then. Perhaps that's why the Azov and Aidar Nazis couldn't keep Mariupol. That's Russia now, and will be forever, going forward.

"NATO’s negotiations were far more effective than any Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, or Korea invasion. The west is moving on. Putin is still using Hitler’s typewriter, while we’re on Google Docs."

The US and Ukraine are the two countries that consistently refuse to condemn the glorification and rehabilitation of Nazis... -What typewriter are you talking about. Google Docs can be garbage in - garbage out, too. Russia and China have plenty of tech. And wearing a St. George's ribbon won't get you thrown into prison.

"All that crap you read that makes you think Putin has a chance, that Ukraine wants to be liberated, and that NATO was somehow forcing Ukraine reads too much to me like the same unreliable antivaxxer propaganda crap. Mainstream may be unreliable but at least it’s verifiable. Which is more than I can say for your sources."

I'm beginning to think that you're incredibly dim-witted, or are being disingenuous. If your vaccines work so well - than leave others to their choices

Everyone’s economies have crashed lol. Don’t be so naive.

@Gumshoe employed the Nazi Revisionism Tactics of the US ARMY's "Rehabilitated" NaziFranz Halder(, Second in Command to Hitler, for Military/Genocidal plans,) at the "CENTER OF MILITARY HISTORY"-post Nuremberg Tribunals - to tap the following support for Banderite Nazis, into a keyboard, with 0 sense of irony:

"You don’t have to support Ukraine either and supporting Russia is dubious af.

I do support Ukraine’s independence and solidarity, as I would any country. I would be more than happy to support the US states becoming individual countries, with the complete dissolution of the federal government, however, realistically the economic independence of each state is incredible suspect as well as the military divisions would put several states at an extreme disadvantage. Arguably, staying a country is the better of the two options as no state other than maybe a couple, can be reasonably become fully independent without severe pitfalls economically. So I am perhaps a little extreme in my viewpoint of any state seceding from the Union. Or any group proposing it. ..."

(SOURCE - for Reference to Franz Halder/US ARMY C.O.M.H., and Nazi Revisionism/historical abd current support for Banderite Nazism in Ukraine: https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/02/03/how-a-network-of-nazi-propagandists-helped-lay-the-groundwork-for-the-war-in-ukraine/)

Of course @Gumshoe continues on to unironically paint all Republicans, and all Trump supporters with a broad-brush - because there are other Trump supporters - who like to carry and present the Confederate Battle Flag, in this current political moment...as if they could do anything about that, and as if that were the main or dominant position behind Republican or Trumpist Ideology.

This a unique feat of Pretzel logic. You will find no pictures of Donald Trump humping a Confederate Flag, the way he does the United States War Flag... Nor will you see him glad-handing Klansmen... Support for the Confederacy is not the dominant force - nor a mainstream within the Republican Party. However - the entire Ethos of the Post-CIA/Nazi "Maidan" Coup Government in Kiev, is Banderist Nazism. Support for the ODIOUS NAZI Ideology of Stepan Bandera, is EXACTLY what one is supporting, when one claims to "support (Ukraine/)the illegitimate Kiev Regime's 'independence'" - ostensibly from Russia - but not from NATO, and the US Coup-backers in the Obama and Brandon Regimes.

Supporting Russia's LEGITIMATE SECURITY CONCERNS - isn't dubious.

Reminder, I am a Republican. I would never say all Republicans are scum. Just most of them. I’ve happily voted Republican for many years prior to the Trump constipation sensation that’s sweeping the nation.

The liberal and discriminating Republican policies of these trump supporting morons are precisely why Democrats not only held there own in 2020 and 2022 should make my party’s representatives treat their positions with more caution rather than proposing legislation after legislation that make the obtuse and incompentent Democrats look viable to the moderate voter. Screaming about voter registration and then putting a bandaid on it, threatening to only increase voter identification IF they don’t win is a typical confederate southern Democrat way of wrangling voters. It didn’t work in the 20th century, it won’t work in the 21st either.

Trump doesn’t face to hump a confederate flag. His supporters do it far too often and, again, if that doesn’t at least make you reconsider Trump and his populist acolytes in the party at least a little bit then, yes, you are conformist confederate scum.

"You can change the regimes all you like but they’re are far too many people in Ukraine to actually hold the region peacefully.
They’ve fought too long and deserve independence and if they want an alliance with NATO, then that is their decision, not Russia."

You sound like a TRUE McCainiac NeoCon - with these fantasties of yours. Russia has never demanded that Ukraine not do business with EU. It was the EU that demanded that Ukraine had to choose one or the other, back in 2013. And in the East - they would much rather collaborate with Russia. Which is why the East is going to join with Russia, happily - with 5 Oblasts already voting overwhelmingly to do so. They HATE the Western Ukrainian Nazis - at this point - it is Ukraine that will never be able to govern there, again.

West Ukraine - having lost all the way to Transnistria, being a devastated land-locked, corrupt homeland with no fighting age males left - can do anything they want - except join NATO, or re-arm, or gain Nuclear weapons. They try that - thy'll be a parking lot. Once the Government is changed - the Constitution will need some changes as well. Bandera may be banned.

"There is nothing Putin or Russia can do but accept the fact that the west has won both the culture war. This invasion is nothing but the final howling death cry of the old Soviet Union. It’s final push to unify and remain globally relevant. It will fail."

Nonsense. 100%. It's the death of NATO and the EU, more likely.

"Putin thought he was playing the long game. ... And we will win."

Keep the hopium alive. You're so clueless, disinformed and ignorant, it would be FUNNY - if it weren't so tragic.

Can Moscow and Beijing put Nuclear weapons in Cuba and Mexico, then? Why not? Don't THEY deserve "independence" of the Imperial vassal State variety? Guantanamo is CLEARLY illegally occupied, stolen land (where the worst abuses in Cuba , by far, are occurring).

Have you NEVER read Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard"? How about the Rand report on "Unbalancing and Overextending Russia"? Their most recent report says the US can't afford to risk a protracted war in Ukraine.

Get off of the NeoCons' impotent units - and start listening to competent analysts like Col. Douglas Macgregor, Scott Ritter and Brian Berletic. There's LITERALLY no way that Ukraine or NATO can win this Proxy war on Russia's doorstep. They can't produce enough ammo - or conscript enough teenagers and old men. Thr army is degraded. The WaPo had admittd.

The west doesn’t have to win.

It’s already won.

You cannot invade any country that does not want you there and expect to hold it.

NATO’s negotiations were far more effective than any Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, or Korea invasion. The west is moving on. Putin is still using Hitler’s typewriter, while we’re on Google Docs.

All that crap you read that makes you think Putin has a chance, that Ukraine wants to be liberated, and that NATO was somehow forcing Ukraine reads too much to me like the same unreliable antivaxxer propaganda crap. Mainstream may be unreliable but at least it’s verifiable. Which is more than I can say for your sources.

He DID NOT DIE FROM INJURIES. He dead from a heart attack. Please WATCH the videos, in the links provided for you. This is very similar to the BlueAnon Faithful - still arguing in favor of the evidence-free and disproven (by lefty, former Democracy Now host/reporter Aaron Maté) conspiracy theory about "RussiaGate" and "Collusion".

And - EVEN IF TRUE - the death of one cop, doesn't justify the persecution of thousands upon thousands - many of whom have been put on non-judicial punishments, like being added to the "No-Fly List" - simply for attending a permitted protest.

@AWV, if you want to reply to me, reply to me, not whom I’m speaking with. If it’s that important that you get the final word, then say your lot and walk away.

Also, your Confederates defending BS is moot when southern states actively legislate discriminatory legislation and policy that make confederate scumbags cheer.

Cheers.

People who beat cops for doing their job deserve jail.

Whether it’s an asshat rioter from Jan 6 or any other person.

Nope - that's ABSOLUTE 100% CIA BULLSHIT. NOBODY EVER went to jail for "Colluding with Russia". Linking to CIA bullshit fountains, isn't a substitute for a solid, well proven argument. You need to look at what actual crimes people were convicted of. Paul Manafort was convicted, of the same crime that Tony Podesta committed, but was never prosecuted-for.

The DNC server - WAS NOT HACKED. This has been proven by former NSA Technical director William Binney and others. The CROWDSTRIKE CEO admitted in a closed session to the House Select Committee on Intelligence that they had 0 evidence to prove that claim... But despite this - Adam Schiff suppressed the testimony - and continued repeating that LIE. It's why he was removed from the Committee - once Nancy Pelosi was removed from power.

Ok. Agreed.

But there's a whole lot of people in jail - who didn't do any of that - because they came to a legally permitted political rally. What part of that, don't you get?

Your irrational hatred of your political opponents - is going to allow them to do the same kinds of criminal things to you and me - when they get back into power. And with the way that the Brandon Regime 🤡 car is running things into the ground - that day is coming, probably sooner than you think... assuming that our insecure and unverifiable Elections systems don't just job them again.

Russia colluded with the Trump Organization. People went to jail for it.

Corrupt politicians pardoned the higher profile criminals.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/25/muellers-russia-report-special-counsel-indictments-charges/3266050002/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/how-many-trump-advisers-were-criminally-charged-steve-bannon-makes-7/5616793002/

Those who know least indeed…

Rage more about criminals in jail and celebrate those who escape justice makes you nothing more than another American hating liberal.

"Confederates are scum" yes, so are antifa, comunists etc etc.
anyone who does not fly my flag (old glory) can eat me.
I do not like Trfump, he is a jerk but he is way better than racist old joe bribem

Good. Glad we agree that Confederates are scum. As are the Trump Supporters who are just echoing their same sentiments.

But not the democrats who are confederate? sounds like hypocrissy

Who is more likely to fly a Confederate flag this decade?

The modern Democrat or the modern Republican?

Makes you wonder why some Republicans love that flag, doesn’t it? Or maybe that’s too inconvenient for you to think about.

I think about it every day as a conservative Republican voter.

I have never ever seen a confederate flag flown in my neighborhood or state

You wouldn't if you're not in the South.

But your ignorance doesn't negate the fact that Confederate Scum Bags love them some Donald Trump.

Gotta wonder why since Confederates were Democrats. Unless... of course... those same southern democrats now vote modern Republicans.

And... they do.

Which should at least give you some pause in regards to these strings of unconstitutional policies they're legislating.

Replying to @Gumshoe - just like Biden-bros and $hillary-shills and MARKS - Trump supporters are a diverse bunch. YES - there are Confederate supporters and racists - and some people who don't support that, or the KKK, but who believe that is a symbol of Southern Pride and Rebel (anti-Yankee aggression) heritage. There's also lot's of folks at Trump rallies who support none of that. Here in LA, you'll almost NEVER see a Confederate Battle Flag, at a Pro-Trump event - except perhaps being brought by an Agent Provocateur(s) - looking to discredit the Trump movement, by making photos of just that sort possible.

They're not a monolith. Here in LA, the organizers would probably tell people like that to go get a US War flag (or perhaps a US Flag of Peace, which are pretty rare) - or maybe a Gadsden Flag - and/or a Trump flag, better yet. It all depends who organized the event. Private events, like private clubs, can make their own rules...include and exclude anyone they like, and enforce their own rules through reasonable discipline. In Mississippi and Alabama, or at the "Unite the Right" marches in N. Carolina - those flags would be more common.

But here's the thing... Like Nazis marching in Skokie Illinois - they have their freedom of speech, just like you have yours. And they can pick their sh_tty candidate and their sh_tty politics - just like you can pick yours. And that's what the 1st Amendment is there to protect. Popular speech doesn't really need much protection. It's UNPOPULAR SPEECH, and heterodox views which the 1st Amendment is there to protect.