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11 ups, 2y,
3 replies
Like I told Joe, trains are SO much better than that silly pipe line BUT EVEN WITH ALL MY TRAINS,
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9 ups, 2y
WE ADDED ANOTHER LINE RECENTLY HERE IN CANADA TO BE ABLE TO SHIP US COAL TO CHINA | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
7 ups, 2y,
1 reply
yup and it only costs 3 times more... but who cares... it's those poor Americans paying at the pumps...
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
So... electric cars... cause higher gas prices?
5 ups, 2y,
1 reply
So you don't know what I replied to?
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
My mistake.

Pipelines are bad because they encourage us to stay on oil.
5 ups, 2y,
1 reply
fun fact: 88% of EV's in the US are charged with electricity from fossil fuels...
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
So then we can revert them to renewables like us environmentalists want.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
You didn't know oil is a renewable resource unlike raw materials used to make EV batteries?
2 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Oil isn't a renewable resource, the conditions for making it don't exist.
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
It is...
2 ups, 2y
Good luck with trying to find raw materials for batteries... sooner than when oil "runs out"
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3 ups, 2y,
4 replies
Oil is renewable. It is a natural organic substance that is found in the earth. Oil wells that had dried up decades ago have been found to have replenished themselves. Oil is not a fossil fuel. As far as I know science hasn't figured out what creates the oil. Probably a break down of all animal and plant matter I would suspect but I am not a scientist.

This planet is going to be more damaged by going green then it ever would with using oil. All of the renewables last between 20 to 30 years before they have to be replaced. Now you have an major environmental hazard coming up when those lithium batteries are disposed. Almost as bad are the disposal of solar panel. Wind turbines are mostly made out of steel so that can be recycled.

Not to mention that wind and solar cannot even come close to meeting the current demand for electricity. What happens when Biden's law forces auto manufacturers to stop producing internal combustion engines? The demand for electricity is going to skyrocket.

So what happens in the end? Either we return to the horse and buggy days or the idiots who think they are helping the planet stop trying to "help" and we return back to oil. My guess it will be horse and buggy because those idiots who are doing this do not care in the slightest that we have to use a horse for transportation. They only want power and control over everyone's lives and climate change was invented to give them the power and control they crave.
2 ups, 2y
Does every single thing you say have to be a lie? Oil is renewable? On what planet?
1 up, 2y
Renewables are cheaper and actually renewable.
1 up, 2y
Oil isn't renewable. Renewable resources are resources which can be replenished WITHIN our lifetime. Oil can be replenished, but it takes millions of years for the organic material to break down and turn into oil.
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0 ups, 2y
Apparently for some reason I cannot reply directly to EpicWarrior and RavenclawGuy because there is no Reply hyperlink on their posts.

EpicWarrior,
Oil is replenishing itself and it is doing it within our lifetime. It does not not take millions of years or else those formerly dry wells would not have filled back up. What I don't know is if they filled completely as they were before any drilling. But those are the facts.

Incidentally, because oil is a biological substance, a company in the Silicon Valley has genetically modified bacteria to excrete oil that takes less refinement to make gasoline. They said that in order to produce the amount of oil needed to meet the demands of the United States they would need an area about the size of Chicago to fill with this bacteria to poop out their oil.

The science behind what oil is is outdated. It is not made from fossils that decomposed millions of years ago. I don't know what it is or how it is created but the science needs to be re-evaluated if it hasn't already.

RavenclawGuy,
That is the myth that they try to tell you. It is not and in most cases it causes worse damage to the environment than traditional methods of energy production.

But that's okay because we only need to bring down capitalism in the United States to save the planet, even though China and Africa are the worlds biggest polluters by a huge percent. No other nations come close. If the left didn't have an agenda we would know that but this kind of information does not fit their narrative and so you really have to dig to find that out.

Just the production and disposal of lithium is a huge environmental nightmare. But as long as it is all done in China then we don't have to see it and if we can't see it then it doesn't happen, right?
5 ups, 2y,
1 reply
True. However if train cars with were to derail while in train is in motion and crack open then it would take hazmat and clean up crews some time to get to the site. The longer a crew takes the more oil leaks out which means more of the stuff gets spilled into the environment.

Pipelines on the other hand are already connected from point a to point b so no motion based travel is needed. This means no risk of transport accidents like with trains. And if a leak does develop in a pipeline, it can stopped by clamping off the flow to that section with computer controls instead of having to wait for a team to personally come and shut that part down.

Like you wrote, trains are great for transporting other stuff but oil really isn't one of them because there's a better and safer alternative.
1 up, 2y
while i do agree with your point about derailments, i should add that derailments can be the result of incompetent management by freight rail companies.

a lot of oil car incidents occur due to what is called Precision-scheduled railroading (PSR), which is a practice of using longer trains going longer distances instead of multiple trains exchanging cargo at multiple depots. these longer trains are harder to manage since they're also built around the idea of smaller crews and multiple locomotives in the middle of the train that produce a lot of delays if they break down.

i also haven't discussed the age of our railroad infrastructure, which can predate the civil war especially in the mid-atlantic

it's worth mentioning that the OP was talking about coal instead of oil, and the person i replied to brought up the pipeline.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
So trains are going to stand still if they're not used to transport oil?
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
Yes... paying someone 3 times more for the same results makes so much sense economically...
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
0 ups, 2y
Yes I did... farther up...

AmericanViking
7 ups, 2d, 1 reply
yup and it only costs 3 times more... but who cares... it's those poor Americans paying at the pumps...
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
1 up, 2y
we actually do have them. can't recall what the technical term is, but i think it's "local services" or "short-haul," or something like that
8 ups, 2y
This is a shipment of energy to make solar panels in China.
7 ups, 2y
it's only called the "Green new deal" because of the amount of money the government is getting
6 ups, 2y
4 ups, 2y
exactly
6 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Pete Buttigieg ADMITS It: High Gas Prices are FORCING People to Transition to Electric Vehicles...

Which was their plan all along...
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Oh look, we're doing something good for the planet! HOW TERRIBLE!
4 ups, 2y
Less than 20% of electricity is created by green methods (sun, wind and water) combined.
4 ups, 2y
LOL... sure
6 ups, 2y,
3 replies
trains based. trains should be electric instead of cars tbh
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2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
The vast majority of trains are electric.

Of course the generators on the train that provide the electric to the motors are powered by diesel.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"the generators on the train that provide the electric to the motors are powered by diesel"

generally the most modern trains utilize a method of power collection from an outside source. an example would be many of the trains amtrak operates in the northeast that use overhead catenaries
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0 ups, 2y,
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Oh! So, they run on coal is Cole.

Freight trains are 90% General Electric diesel-electric engines.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"So, they run on coal is Cole"

the point of electric vehicles in the beginning is to decrease carbon emissions per person. even diesel-powered passenger trains do that better than cars do. so even if coal is the main source of energy (it can be easily beaten by nuclear and solar), giving people the option to use the converted coal power instead of another fossil fuel is a better alternative than forcing them to use fossil fuels
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0 ups, 2y,
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I blame voice to text and auto correct. Thank you for the correction, it is so nice of you.

Nuclear would solve a lot of problems, too bad Libtards reject it out f hand.

So we force people to overload the existing power grid with EV's

BTW do you really believe the predictions that that the ice caps will disappear by 2000 are realistic?
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
"Nuclear would solve a lot of problems, too bad Libtards reject it out f hand"

you can thank the simpsons for setting the nuclear power campaign back by centuries

"So we force people to overload the existing power grid with EV's"

i don't really support personal electric vehicles either since they are inefficient. electric trains, on the other hand, don't overload existing grids. however, if we had nuclear power to a greater extent, then i'd be doubtful that electric cars could overload a network

"BTW do you really believe the predictions that that the ice caps will disappear by 2000 are realistic?"

by 2000? no. that was two decades ago. i can't personally make a judgement entirely on those predictions since i am not a geologist myself, and although i support what climate scientists say, at least half of what they claim is deliberately sensationalized by the media.
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0 ups, 2y,
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You are too young to know that the charlatans have been beating this doomsday garbage since the sixties.

I am too young to know what garbage they were shoveling prior to that.

Their predictions never come to fruition.

You do realize that all plant life on Earth is dependent on CO² in order to produce the O² you require for life.

You also do not know that a large percentage of climatologists disagree that climate change is homogenic.

Those reports are suppressed the same as the physicians that opposed the covid vaccine.
0 ups, 2y
"You do realize that all plant life on Earth is dependent on CO² in order to produce the O² you require for life"

our production of CO2 outpaces the consumption of CO2 by plants, especially when trees are torn down for urban sprawl

"I thought I was replying to a teen, sorry"

guessing you had to check out my profile ;)

"However it is telling to find out that the left to get their science from the Simpsons"

the simpsons, back in the golden days, made commentaries about issues present in the 90s. fears of chernobyl seeped into the stories, and since those stories are timeless, many a generation are going to be taught that nuclear waste is neon green and will spawn 3-eyed mutant fish
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0 ups, 2y
Wow, I need to be more careful. I thought I was replying to a teen, sorry.

However it is telling to find out that the left to get their science from the Simpsons.
2 ups, 2y
2 ups, 2y
Ban most cars, I agree.
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