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Here's another question that you probably didn't think about. At what point does a woman who knows she pregnant decide to make the decision of abortion? Just out of having some bit of humanity in your blackened heart, keep in mind it's scientifically proven that the baby in the womb at one point starts to recognize sounds, voices and emotions which is human behavior. At what point do women make decisions that prevent themselves from getting pregnant in the first place?
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There are many reasonable middle grounds in this complex debate!

Good one!
2 ups, 2y
NHS.UK says most babies born before 24 weeks cannot survive.

CDC says only 1% of abortions happen ≥21 weeks.

I would tend to assume this small fraction is only under dire circumstances because most women probably do not want to have to get an abortion at all let alone wait until the fetus is so big and possibly viable to do it.
0 ups, 2y
Without medical care (or support) would be a better question.
0 ups, 2y,
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So completely wrong.

People who think:
1) what is the single activity that can result in a pregnancy
2) contraception is pretty good, but never 100%
3) if you do not want to risk pregnancy, then don't do that single thing
4) if you do it anyway, and get or cause a pregnancy, then you have already made your choice
5) game is now over

Non sequitur (does not follow), is the only way to describe the arguments you have tried here.
1 up, 2y,
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Questions about the rules of values of things cannot be a non sequitur, only the beginning point. You started with the value as the beginning point. Where did you get that value? Is it inherent, maybe for you but clearly not everybody.
0 ups, 1y
No, the beginning point is "choose to engage in the one activity that can result in pregnancy, or choose not too".

It is like getting drunk. "do you choose to drive anyway, or do you call a cab".

Like the gasoline fight in the movie 'Zoolander'. "should we light cigarettes now, or change our clothes and shower the gasoline off first".

Like Baldwin. "check the gun first, or just point and pull the trigger".

Once you make a decision, consequences begin to spring from that. Then, you make further decisions, to mitigate the results of the previous decisions.

Logically, the only way to guarantee no pregnancy, is no male female sexual intercourse. If you choose to take the risk, then that is what you chose; your choices should now be limited, based on the choice you already made. It should be raise to adulthood, or give up for adoption in the average case. Basing a general law on extreme cases, leads to bad laws. Extreme cases, can be judged differently, but those are rare.
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