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Actually, many do, they just don't know it yet. The gap in their lives increases, because a part of them is lost when they kill their children.

But what's wrong with saying good ol' fashioned guilt?

Skip this religion mumbo jumbo fluff and get to the point, everybody:

Abortion, by defintion and design is the of KILLLING an unborn baby.
What the Hell do invisible old men in the sky and soul/ghost thingies have to do with that?

Gosh damn, people missing their own point. It's KILLING a living being because THAT'S what it is, PERIOD.

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Well, for the sake of the argument, God doesn't have to be involved, but what you find, is that there actually is no way to leave out the source of truth in a debate. I can still argue in a way that you think I am not involving God.

Yes, it is killing a living human being. . . I remember you being pro abortion...Sus.

Nope, I specifically remember you always debating me on this topic. You are probably just trolling.

Probably? 100% chance.

Yeah, I mean, obvious trolling.

I see your game. I don't think you are worth my time.

No, s/he's not, but s/he's so cute when s/he's triggered. You and I have both sent him/her slobbering off the deep end.

lol

Did he delete his comments or mods?

Just watch interviews man.

But some do and that is all that matters.

None of this should make the practice restricted or illegal.

Also i am intrigued, where are you getting your data from? Now I am curious, because I know most likely a lot end up in heavy depression and addiction as a side effect of abortion, AND suicide as a side effect, after all Atheist have the highest number of suicide than any other group, just as they do for abortion. It does makes you wonder if they are related. A completely out of topic question. How does it feel to be part of the most depressed and highest number of suicide group?

Clearly you did not read my whole thing

But now that you jumped into this party. Octavia_Melody tell me, how does it feels to be part of the group with the highest suicide rate in the planet?

Ah, know you lack the abilities to perform your own research. I will help you out, yes it us true. Lowest suicidal rate group are Muslims followed by Christians. Tell me, how does it feel knowing that?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

Irrelevant
https://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

Plus the map below shows that the lowest of all are the cities the haters love to complain about.

I ain't in a position to determine why, but it fits with what I've always observed about people who have to contend with real problems on a fairly regular basis living with danger round the next corner
vs
those whose biggest problems is will the chipmunks nibble on their lettuce in the yard while they're at the Walmart stocking up on more bullets for the impending zombie outbreak.

When people have make a constant effort to avoid getting bapped upside the head, they don't celebrate it.
When people have little to worry about outside the door, they invent problems to fester about.

Irony is they're so bored with being comfy they become ornery pussbags attracted to hair pulling loudmouths.
Meanwhile furrowed eyebrow mofos pacing concrete canyons are actually pretty mellow when approached. Usually.

Irrelevant
https://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

Exactly, other countries are irrelevant, as is the religious bit, as that had nothing to do with what I posted (in case you haven't heard, guess what cities have more of as well filling their more numerous places of worship). Or is this where you post other countries' lower murder, crime, and general gun violence as well?

I said globally in my previous post, so yeah. Look again where United States is. This article shows that the more a country turns away from faith the more suicide numbers increase. That is sad because as United states keeps turning away from faith the more those numbers will increase. There are even books about how suicide is an issue in the atheist community, written by an atheist no less. Now that you looked at United States a second time, and I thank you for it, you need to understand that it is really not as religious as it is hyped to be. And those numbers are MUCH smaller now, you have people who claim to be part of a religious group but does not have an active relationship with God nor do they practice fate. You see this when you ask someone "what religion are you a member of?" And their answer is "well my family is Catholic, so I must be Catholic" and this person never even been to church once they got out of highschool. You also have people who go to church for their own personal gain, I had an uncle who used to go briefly to church to give tithe and get tax write off, but never engaged any activity within the church. So you have about 50% of the people who currently go to X church who do not practice faith. Again less faith = more suicides. Congratulations, hope you are proud. Also all those countries who you guys claim are much better than US have more than twice as much suicide rate than US... guess free healthcare is not the answer after all huh.

tl;dr

Lower than expected indeed.
Who woulda thunk that the biggest most crowded polluted dangerous Liberal cities have the LOWEST per-capita suicide rate while the highest is in the big open 'God's country' as they like to put it,,,

That all happened under Barack Hussain Obama's watch according to your source - top left corner, 2014 - 2016.

Come back with some up to date material.

Go find it yourself.

I'm not the one supporting my position with outdated information.

No, really, indulge me.

Not like you've supported anything ever with anything other than feelz anyways.
- Other than that Kiss vid that is. Yeah, let me click that link right now because I have fun doing ill-advised things.

"Atheist have the highest number of suicide than any other group"

I just Googled that and saw that Muslims are twice as likely to commit suicide,
Another article said Muslims were the least likely to commit suicide of any group,
Another said poor Protestants were,
Another said White men,
Another said American Indians,
Another said Atheists did,
Another said Atheists followed by Hindus,,,

I got bored having to keep on in anticipation of Jainists or Scientologists or is it the followers of the Force (legally recognized as a legit religion in the UK a few years ago, I kid you not) and realized basically humans do because they're morons who conned themselves into thinking their unabashed idiocy was a sign of intelligence so therefore they do stupid things like kill themselves because their girlfriend they cheated on dumped their dumb ass for better after she found out and no one cares because ma said life is like a box of chocolates, stupid is as stupid does.

That just means you are bad at doing your research. Look for statistics and stop coming out with excuses.

Look up your own quote, word for word, and see what turns up. The "Hindus a close second" came from darling Ben Shapiro himself.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

https://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

No, they feel relief for not having to take responsibility and pay for the lives of their children. Major difference.

No, killing a human being because you "can't afford" it is not right. Plus, most women don't do it for that reason. They do it because they want to open their legs without consequence.

:)

The Guttmacher Institute says all sorts of crap, most of which actually reveals abortion for what it is, interestingly enough. Plus, it is bought out by planned parenthood, so, not exactly trustworthy.
https://www.hli.org/resources/why-women-abort/

Guttmacher has been independent from Planned Parenthood since 2007.

Legally, but no really.

No! Responsible will be not getting pregnant in the first place. IF they can't afford to have kids. I lead by example, I had my kid at the age of 35, note that I got married at the age of 21, and by then I was a 2 home owner, my kids lack nothing. Two wrong choices does not make it right. Also, on my previous post, excuse my typos, there are many, I was engaged on a long conversation with someone else while typing, but do let me know if you gave questions. Cheers.

The abortion trend in the U.S. is pretty similar to that of Mexico...

Just because this is the wealthiest country on the face of the earth does not mean everyone living in it is wealthy. You realize we also have the worst inequality ever recorded on the face of the earth in history, too, right?

BTW your buddy Octavia_Melody aint gonna help you much, he lost this argument with me a few years back, he does has short memory it seems.

Clearly you missed my point about poorer families that you not crying about not able to afford contraception and how stupid ypur coment was about not able to afford contraceptions BUT able to afford an abortion. Hmmmm. Nice try to shift the focus.

And about to loose again. Don't get too depressed or suicidal on me. Oh BTW, I have a gift for both of you right here, because I am nice.

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You know how you sound? Check this out. Families in Mexico, or any 3rd world country (and Mexico is not one), have 3 to 5 kids and they are very poor. But here you are, in United States, a much richer country, complaining you can't afford contraseption YET you can afford an abortion. Do you hear yourself?

That is an excuse, contracention is VERY affordable. You are now making excuses for irresponsible behavior. I was also BROKE for the first 15 years of marriage, I was so poor, but I could afford .25 cents for condoms, which I only used the first few times. It was pull out ever after. Low income my butt.

"The fact of the matter is, most people who have sex and most people who have abortions are not trying to become pregnant." No one is arguing that. I spend 15 years having sex without getting my wife pregnant. I pulled out, it is NOT hard. And i guarantee you that most people getting abortions did NOT use contraceptions. They are irresponsible in ALL their actions.

They can be at least considerate and put their unwanted, unconvenient kid for adoption. Problem is that USA laws, cost, and adoption policies makes it impossible for people to adopt, and the reason why most families in USA adopt foreign children. THAT needs to get fixed

BPD is not the main reason for suicide in your group. Look it up. But my question which you dodged with a generic answer was, and I repeat, "How does it feel to be part of the most depressed and highest number of suicide group?" Like are you proud? Sad? Those are simple expected answers.

The article you provided, there was a lot of fat in it, but when you skin it you get this "But after 5 years, 84% reported feeling mostly positive or few emotions about their decision, with only 6% feeling negative emotions." This is AFTER 5 years of and again another quote from the article "[This research] put into context that having an abortion is one of the many complex and difficult things that women in this country are dealing with in their lives,"

Also this is a study, and most likely performed with a controlled group. It is NOT an actual number of all abortion patients, it also does not include how many commited suicide or felt into addiction, I guarantee you those will NOT be part of their control group for their studies. For example a study group trying to identify what is more dirty a dog's butt hair or a man's beard. If in my study I am trying to convey dogs butt hair is cleaner I will used 5 dogs from rich family just bathed and 5 homeless man living under a bridge who probably have not had a shower in months. So 98% of the dogs in my study group thir butts were cleaner while only 2% of the man's beard were clener. SO CLEARLY based on my study, not revealing relevant information, digs butts are cleaner than man's beards so man need to shave. Hmmmmm.

I do noot to know your opinion about human life! It is very important for me when talking about it. I do not care about "your mental health struggles" that is NOT what my question is about. For the record, I already know that you are a mental unstable person, you already told me that. I want to know your values of human life, from your own group's perspective. Again my question is: "How does it feel to be part of the most depressed and highest number of suicide group?"

"If you understand how surveys work" ...you even said it, it is a "survey", not an actual statistics based on global data. Surveys tend to be one sided. There is such things as "controlled groups" look it up.

"Nice monologue about dog ass hair." Well, real life scenario. My wife, trying to get me to shave my beard, told me "studies show dog's butt hair are cleaner than man's beard".

I am not the one making excuses. You are. Again my question was "How does it feel to be part of the most depressed and highest number of suicide group?" I even gave you 2 expected answers! The fetus is a living person....so clearly your answer is not sincere.

"None of this should make the practice restricted or illegal."

Probably true, which would mean that many laws should be stricken that aim to "save us from ourselves". Except for whatever crime(s) you committed, of course.

No, it should be made 100% illegal as it is murder, the attempts by evil people to dehumanize the unborn child notwithstanding.

As for no consequences? Just because the Leftist Media attempts to immune you from such data and factual information, does not mean it isn't out there. But liberals like to hide from anything that might upset their love affair with immorality.

"The pro-abortion movement has gone to great lengths to downplay the risks of abortion to the mother, but these risks are very real. This article will examine some of the common consequences of abortion. As we shall see, aside from always resulting in a dead baby, abortions are also dangerous to the mother."

https://www.hli.org/resources/risks-of-abortion/

This doesn't deal with the underlying decay widespread acceptance of child murder brings to society. People willing to look past whatever consciences they have left to defend this barbaric practice become ever more evil themselves.

Like you.

"Even if the woman could die without one?"

Name a single medical issue requiring an abortion to save the life of the mother.

"Abortion isn't child murder. Fertilized eggs aren't children."

I find it amusing that you characterize belief in God as "magical", all the while you apparently assign mystical and magical properties to the female va**na. What magic do you assert takes place when that "fertilized egg" develops and then passes through the birth canal? What exactly happens that makes it a baby instead of a "fertilized egg"?

Technically, YOU are a fertilized egg, just one that is in a more advanced stage of growth. For clarification, that would be an advanced stage of physical growth, not mental growth.

Now, I do understand and sympathize that the average Brony likely never has an encounter with the female va**na, so it probably does seem very mysterious and magical to him, but I can assure you of this- nothing suddenly happens when that developed fertilized egg travels through its mother's va**na that magically bestows personhood to the baby.

And you are disgusting to justify killing that human being at any stage of its growth. This is clearly an opinion based argument, for both sides, and yet only one side seems to understand where human beings come from. This is simply evidence of your extreme immorality, and further proof that you are incapable of being trusted to hold any realistic views on any subject.

Not that this is news to me.

And you seriously have to be kidding me. This site is set up to edit/redact the medical term for female genitalia, "va**na"?

I had no idea that it was being run by nothing but Bronies . . .

That is not my argument. Try again. Will give you a second chance, just as your parents did.

How would you know?

I literally cited the study

A study, not the study.