I’m Interested to Hear What People Think?

Zero. Russia does not actually want Ukraine. They want to fracture NATO, end the petro dollar, set up a new international order that they are in charge of. Putin has been working for 20 years on defense from American economic warfare.

Simply being at war, is the current point. The longer it lasts, the better for Russia's strategy. War is just a tactic.

Yes. Unfortunately, I agree. The Russians view these things differently than we do. They want to be seen in a difficult, protracted fight.

I think they want the whole thing and their end game is the whole country.

realistically nothing.
It doesn't often make sense to irradiate the place you're hoping to add to your own nation.

I hope. But I don’t think Russia wants the city. They want the farmland to use to supply food to China after the deal they made to begin supplying China with food shortly before the invasion.

Hope they like fallout coated cabbage! It'll clear out Ruskie lungs real good too!

PS: China buys most of their food from us for a reason, and it isn't that no one else ever thought of selling them their produce.

Ukraine has the most farm land in Europe and:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/26/business/china-russia-ukraine.html

70% of the food Planet Earth eats comes from the USA. That's not because no one had noticed swaths of arable land in Ukraine before, nor can that suffice to fill China's needs.

No links. I can't be arsed to do someone else's homework for them.

Yeah, well, they haven’t released any figures on how much of it is owned by China now. So that 70% ain’t what it used to be. But it is true, the US has the most farmland on earth.

Um, yeah, sure, but still no.

Is there a point you're trying to make with this fanfic about Russia planning to nuke Urkainian farmland to pull a sneaky on the Chinese they would then be selling fallout flour grown by radioactive Russians to without setting off their Geiger Counters?

You need to work on your reading comprehension. Because if you got that from what I wrote, you’re illiterate.

Oh, cool, projection.

I ain't reiterating what you said, guy, I'm saying what I said.
If your reading comprehension is at par with your (not exceedingly keen) observational skills, then your basic unawareness of basic facts is basically, well, a basic given.

Let's stop wasting my time on that which you display difficulty in understanding, k?

Big farm subsidies in the US

Hopefully good

So I take it your not a fan of zolynsky?

Not in the slightest. Not that putin's great but he ain't pushing globoh__o. (censored for the snowflakes)

I hope you’re right.

Only one country has ever been dumb enough to actually use nukes in combat.

And we did it twice.

I don't call bombing civilians as using nukes in combat

Yup, which is why we stand as the only time anyone's done it.

Why was it done?

Depends who you ask but any reason anyone gives is not a good enough one.

Right, but I am trying to figure out why.
Whole war seemed pretty sketchy

... The whole of the Second World War? Seemed sketchy to you?

Yep

True. But how dumb is it to nuke Ukraine? Aside from killing the Klitschko brothers who are loved in Russia?

How dumb is it to join the extremely short list of countries who would ever do that?

Well, exhibit A, in about 80 years, not one country - no matter how irrational the leader - has bothered to find out. Do you know how dumb an idea has to really be for nobody to actually try it? Hyperinflation, countries have done that. Regretted it, but done that. Defaulting on international debts? Countries have regretted doing that, but yeah, they gave it a spin.

Using nukes in combat? Not once in 80 years. Really just the USA. Nobody else has been that heartlessly reckless.

But Putin is either crazy. Or he might feel like the best way to say no one can touch me, is launching a few tactical nukes.

Listen to the words I am typing. Don't just read them, process the information that I am conveying. Understand what I am saying in your mind.

Putin hasn't been the only crazy leader we've had in the world in 80 years, has he? Not even close, right - we've seen a LOT of crazy spiteful leaders over the years.

AND some of those leaders have had nukes. Some of them even had nukes that we KNEW about - remember that there were 32 broken arrow incidents during the cold war, so a bunch of nukes are in who knows whose hands right now.

And yet, not once has anybody but us ever actually used them.

How bad does an idea have to be for the craziest leaders the world has ever seen these last 80 years to not do it?

I am listening, and hope that is the case. My biggest concern is that there is no benefit whatsoever in a war with Russia. America will lose, even if it wins militarily. If the US goes for any attempt at regime change, who’s to say China doesn’t give North Korea the green light to use nukes agains the US? If we’re talking about taking Putin out, Kim Jong’s going to be like, they’re going to want me out, too. If it comes to that, the United States does not have the support it needs for a full on war, from the rest of the world. No matter how it plays out, our economy will be destroyed. It’s no big deal for the people eating grass already. But to us, completely dependent on China and foreign oil? We’d be totally f**ked.

And I should add, I think our current leaders are the craziest that have ever been at the helm of this country. By far. They are insane. The perfect way to f**k us up, is to get these morons into a war.

The fact that you think the current administration is the most extreme we've had including the days of the Truman presidency, including Richard Nixon and the Henry Kissinger era, Andrew Jackson and the genocide committed right here on American soil, and all the international wars we embroiled ourselves in throughout the 19th Century where we literally invented the concept of going to war for no other reason than to force a country to BUY - not sell, buy - our products...

...and Joe Biden is the craziest we've ever had???

Who are you trying to kid?

Insane is not about what they say. It’s what they do. They are starting a war with russia for nothing. That is insane. Insane is not someone said some things that might hurt some people’s feelings.

Remember what I said about actually reading my comments? I described several presidents who DID - not said, and not might do, DID - much worse than anything Biden is even considering. You're being hyperbolic, and you're not listening to the conversations you're having.

I hear you, but yes, this administration, is by far, the craziest. It’s pretty obvious why Putin is arresting so many for treason. They are the ones that NATO and/or EU and US thought they could use to overthrow Putin without a war.

As a matter of fact, the only reason Nukes ARE ALLOWED is because we have the PRESIDENCE. Simple as that.

What??

we have set the precedent[s]

- seems to be what he was getting at.

Yes, thank you. Coming off a viking induced 48 hour ban!!!

Zero

I hope!

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