captain obvious

Seeing it as fair competition is a mental illness...

Sick that there are people who actually enjoy whatching it.

Well, they do love stacking the deck and moving the goal posts...

You ever get beaten up by a guy ina dress? LoL

Nothing is wrong with being trans

people can be what ever they want. The problem starts when a person tries to force other people to believe their fantasy is real.

It’s not a fantasy

"I identify as" is the same as saying "I pretend to be" . I know society is trying to brain wash you to think that how someone identifies themselves somehow alters reality.. but it doesn't.

It’s not society. I’m trans myself

I doubt it, you are probably a loner kid, that is shy and never had a BF or GF and are trying to find yourself and be part of a popular fad going on right now.

That’s not even close to what this is about

I would be willing to bet every penny I have that it is exactly that. It makes me sick that your generation is being brainwashed by gender confusion tactics and blurring the lines that make men and women unique - men and women are completely different - they do not mix and match, the DNA is completely different . You are what you were born as . There is no way to change that fact.

Just because my parts say one thing doesn’t mean that’s what i am

that is exactly what that means. It is not just your "parts" it is your body structure , your DNA , the very building blocks that make you who you are - says you are what you were born as. I am not telling you you have to be anyone specifically , you can act or dress anyway you want, but trying say you are something you are not is as silly as me saying I am a dinosaur. I can dress up as one.. but I will never be one.

Those are two different things. And it’s not a mental illness

yoooo ad hominem fallacy. cringe

a man saying he is a woman is as ridiculous as a man saying he is a dinosaur. DNA doesn't lie. What makes it even worse is when other people acknowledge the person's fantasy and start saying that "of course he is a dinosaur!" . That is cringe.

"a man saying he is a woman is as ridiculous as a man saying he is a dinosaur"

by doing brain scans you can find out otherwise. if a man had the brain of a dinosaur, as improbable as that is, then he'd technically be a dinosaur. the trans women i knew had observable thought processes that were different from males.

also, don't try to deny that the reptilians are a thing

"What makes it even worse is when other people acknowledge the person's fantasy and start saying that "of course he is a dinosaur!""

the word "fantasy" here is blowing it way out of proportion again, deliberately making the argument one-sided. this isn't some new epidemic; it's been noticeable since even before the '50s, without mentioning that it's been a larger case study since 2015; nearly a decade ago.

ugh I am running out of response room, for the last question about processes and perceptions -yes , the physical traits of the brain effect those details. So yes , transgendered people have the same brains we all do, but just with a disorder .

"-yes"

any sources on that?

The physical make up of the brain effects the intangible things you mentioned- Particularly the cerebellum https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/anatomy-of-the-brain

The male female brain theory has been completely debunked over a 10 year span with 6K participants. Are you talking about the Aliens reptiles? You? ... Never said anything even close to transgenderism being a pandemic. It is a personal issue with people that effects no one else but themselves- except when their issues start to effect me by trying to force me to accept their delusion as reality. a man thinking he is a women is delusional, a fantasy, there is something mentally wrong with that person.. Gender dysphoria , no matter how they may try to make it sound better by changing the verbiage, doesn't change the definition of it. Yes, I know people have suffered from mental illness since forever.

here is one from 2021 - https://brainworldmagazine.com/dumping-dimorphism-we-dont-have-male-or-female-brains/ The idea of a gendered brain is completely debunked, it is pseudoscience to try to push an agenda that is based in fantasy. Men do not have female brains or vice versa. People who think they are a different gender have a mental disorder - that is why they have a 40 -50% suicide rate , and no, that is not caused by how they are treated by society.

so the physical differences aren't present, but what about mental processes and perception? any debunks on that?

"People who think they are a different gender have a mental disorder - that is why they have a 40 -50% suicide rate"

you could also attribute the high suicide rates to white males; the factors that play here are external.
https://www.brgeneral.org/news-blog/2021/july/men-and-suicide-why-are-white-men-most-at-risk-/
"Many men still buy into the stigma that they should be strong enough to handle things on their own..."

"and no, that is not caused by how they are treated by society."

any proof of that sentiment?

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/study-debunks-notion-of-gender-based-brain-differences-1102151,
https://www.womenarehuman.com/debunking-the-myth-of-gendered-brains/

Sorry I wanted to post a source link or two that supports my thoughts on this.

"https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/study-debunks-notion-of-gender-based-brain-differences-1102151"

this article came out in 2015. any recent developments that say the same thing?

"https://www.womenarehuman.com/debunking-the-myth-of-gendered-brains/"

a mini-glance at this website can't not reveal how much of a skewed, T.E.R.F. website it is

Yes the proof is that everyone gets treated poorly by society and no other demographic has those kind of numbers, blacks for example have been mistreated for 400 years, were enslaved, beaten , raped , imprisoned , and only recently started to be treated with equality , never had a 40 - 50 % suicide rate, the only other demographic that has that high of a suicide rate are Schizophrenics. Another group that are mentally ill. Oh and Jews in Concentration camps.. and if anyone tells me trans are being treated like prisoners ina concentration camp... umm.. .lmfao I'll be happy to have that debate. with popcorn.

making those comparisons is farfetched at best. usually slaves or concentration camp inmates were killed by others instead, and even then they had someone fighting for them, i.e. the allies during WWII or the Union States in the civil war. that's why we don't hear of many ukrainians killing themselves currently. at the end of it all, someone's sticking up for them.

at best, transgender demographics have is nihilism/being a doomer. instead of being prisoners of war, they are more often ousted from their families and corrupt government officials.

Being cisgender is a REALLY popular fad, is that why you are?

I can understand why you'd want to jump on the cis bandwagon, cis people don't get attacked for being cis, they don't get estranged from their families for being cis, they don't have people freak out about which toilet they use because they are cis.

I don't blame you, it has advantages.

"I identify as" is the same as saying "I pretend to be"

No it isn't.

It is arrogant of you to believe that your feelings about and opinions of strangers are more accurate than their feelings about and opinions of themselves.

my feelings about other people should not matter to other people. Which is why no one should try to force me to have a different opinion of them in the first place. I will never ignore reality to please someone engaging in a fantasy.

it comes down to common decency and respect. the word "force" here is being used to exaggerate the claims here

when you can be prosecuted/fired/doxxed for "misgendering " someone, then the word "force" is being used properly.

<-- expect cut off the dick and wear make up.. same thing .

the best type of trans person is the one with a rifle. try misgendering one of these people, and "everything above your neck is gonna be a fine red mist" (god i wish i mained sniper in tf2)

Well , if misgendering is enough for someone to try to murder me, I can guarantee it is not going to end well for them. ;)

"try to murder me"

call it self-defense

So if someone calls me a mean name I can murder them in self defense? I think you are smarter that comment you left, my man.

"shit.. I didn't recognize the quote because I never played team fortress"

fair enough :)

"But I have to get going for today - take care and be safe out there Synth."

coolio. cya. fun debate :)

" I said the exact same thing about a month ago to another user and got an 8 hour ban"

ahh ok. tbh i've had longer ones just by pissing off one specific user (and by posting disturbing pictures of war crimes which occurred under the trump admin. between '19 & '20)

yup imgflip is getting to be a lot like a mini facebook. I have had 16 profiles over there banned , so I am used to it.

only kidding :/
that's why i used a video game character quote in the first place

shit.. I didn't recognize the quote because I never played team fortress . you know it is hard to read tone , but On a final note - I had a very pleasant exchange with you today. I hope I was able to explain my thoughts and show you why I think this way. But I have to get going for today - take care and be safe out there Synth.

you embarrass yourself with these kinds of comments... your ancestors would be ashamed of ya!

cry about it

careful , I said the exact same thing about a month ago to another user and got an 8 hour ban. the phrase "cry about it" seems to be on the new banned things to say list here.

Who was prosecuted/fired/doxxed for misgendering someone?

"when you can be prosecuted/fired/doxxed"

- doxxing happens on twitter when you have the wrong opinion on a cartoon; it is done by just about anyone you'd least suspect, and misgendering is one of the minuscule reasons why doxxing happens. i heard a story about a guy who got doxxed for explaining memes.
- prosecuted and/or fired? when?

here is one of many - I know you are a very bright person and finding samples of this type of thing should be easy for you. https://drrichswier.com/2019/02/12/cis-lesbian-fired-for-misgendering-a-trans-male-rapist/

https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-lgbtq-dispute-20190213-story.html
"Julia Beck, a self-described radical lesbian feminist, shares that fear"

yes, another T.E.R.F. try and avoid finding those next time. The whole issue of the woman getting fired was due to her beliefs, not just misgendering one time.

"I know you are a very bright person and finding samples of this type of thing should be easy for you"

i've seen many people fired for misgendering /supposedly/. however, it's often blown out of proportion

Well I know laws are being passed in Canada making calling someone by their biological pronoun a human right violation.. I mean.. isn't this an example of forcing people to believe someone else's fantasy? To bend knee for social justice instead of siding with truth? I am sorry but I won't play that game, if a dude walks in wearing a dress and he has got a hardon visible and a 5'oclock shadow , I am not going to call him ma'am. it aint happening. LoL

"Well I know laws are being passed in Canada making calling someone by their biological pronoun a human right violation"

ok, so the cuck prime minister is doing stupid things without understanding the complexities. let me know if that sort of thing happens in denmark

"isn't this an example of forcing people to believe someone else's fantasy? "

those words "forcing" and "fantasy" again are deliberately placing it out of proportion. simply respecting someone's preferences is not gonna cause any harm in the long run

"To bend knee for social justice instead of siding with truth?"

""""""truth""""""" here is a buzzword that i've seen supporters of israel use. the concept of truth is way to subjective to support any arguments.

"if a dude walks in wearing a dress and he has got a hardon visible and a 5'oclock shadow "

i've seen enough trans women that don't look like that and would hardly be considered "manly" enough to be in the olympics. the first step i took was to not watch blaire white's channel.

Truth to me is not a buzz word, when I say truth.. I am talking about facts not feelings, numbers , history, data, statistics, hard facts or proven theory. I used the "its ma'am " example from that crazy dude that flipped out in the video store a --year or two back. <--- cause he is an example of this getting out of hand with social justice.

"when I say truth.. I am talking about facts not feelings, numbers , history, data, statistics, hard facts or proven theory."

yeah i'm pretty sure just about anyone on this site will say that to the point where it doesn't mean anything anymore. perceiving every trans woman as a person with their junk out, however, is a feeling at best

"cause he is an example of this getting out of hand with social justice."

posting an anomaly for an example is not facts. in the past few years surrounding the gamestop maniac, there hasn't been anything close to that incident.

youre right. whats wrong is that he switched to the womens league even though he has male genetics. giving him the unfair advantage. he wasnt good enough to beat the other males so he switched to the womens league and became a champion as a cheater. if you think its fair you may have that mental illness american viking was talking about on the top comment.

Gender is not biological all the time

didnt say it wasnt. i said he has male genetics and is cheating by being in the wrong league

She’s not in the wrong league

It’s not metal illness

the captain speaks the truth. this is the last reply as im getting tired of you

I’m ok with that

"By some estimates, as many as one in 100 people have differences or disorders of sex development, such as hormonal conditions, genetic changes or anatomical ambiguities, some of which mean that their genitalia cannot clearly be classified as male or female.

For most of the twentieth century, doctors would often surgically alter an infant’s ambiguous genitals to match whichever sex was easier, and expect the child to adapt. Frequently, they were wrong. A 2004 study tracked 14 genetically male children given female genitalia; 8 ended up identifying as male, and the surgical intervention caused them great distress (W. G. Reiner and J. P. Gearhart N. Engl. J. Med. 350, 333–341; 2004)."

It is inaccurate to claim people have a mental illness solely because they don't fit into your very simplistic categories.

here is accurate information instead of the biased information you posted from "intersex society of north America" - Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%.

then tell the guy who said it, not me. everything you said was bs