What is wrong with liberals/democrats that they don't have concerns about this?

Flu vaccines have never been 100% effective. Lol. We’re used to the concept of degrading immunity — particularly after several months since the last shot, and multiplying variants.

You carry the burden of proof for debunking the science behind vaccines, which have been a thing for centuries. George Washington had his troops vaccinated at Valley Forge. (Smallpox at the time was a deadlier foe than the British.) Etc etc.

How many flu shots are administered per year?
How much more effective are they than these Covid shots?
Why do doctors resort to using antibiotics as sparingly as possible?
How might the overuse of these vaccines result in the same issue, as it appears to be doing?

This meme is not saying that vaccines, as a rule, are problematic, so there is no "burden of proof" needed- your confusion is based on your own biases.

Which is better- the degrading immunity that comes from these vaccines, or that which comes naturally?

You have provided a GREAT example of the lengths a liberal will go to ignore the obvious, which proves the point I was trying to make better than the meme could ever do.

Your anti-vaxx arguments have recently been tried on the Pentagon — aka the modern-day successors to the George Washington tradition of American combat readiness — and were found lacking.

It’s cute that you’re trying to inject politics into it, but if you’re conceding that “liberals” have a monopoly on the reality of this issue — as depressing as that is (I’d much rather there be bipartisan consensus on something this obvious), I’ll take it

George Washington: Pro-Vaxxer!

Perhaps you should do some research into the inoculation of that era.

Anyway I'm actually not anti-vaccine. I've received most. Just not covid. Because it's my choice not to.

There is often a bipartisan agreement on ignorance, but in this instance, the ignorance is largely coalesced on your side of the aisle. Though it is cute that you think yourself a master at gaslighting- admittedly, not a bad effort.

Put your feelings about Democrats to one side. Vaccines have existed for hundreds of years, long before the modern-day Democratic Party was constituted. Infectious diseases themselves have existed for far, far longer.

How can it be that George Washington, who lived 250 years ago, knew more about the effectiveness of vaccines than you do today?

Because George Washington was a product of the Enlightenment — the same leap forward in human knowledge that birthed the concept of natural rights that inspired the American Revolution — while despite living in the 21st-century, you still cling to a pre-Enlightenment way of thinking.

How do pre-Enlightenment people respond to pandemics? Also known as “plagues”?

We have a historical record for that. They blame foreigners. They blame the Jews. They blame sexual promiscuity. They blame wars and kings. They, ultimately, credit God for the Plague and blame all of humanity itself for its alleged sins.

And what do they do in response?

They don’t socially distance. They don’t put on masks. They don’t vaccinate. They don’t do the things that science and modern medicine have shown are effective at fighting contagion.

Instead, they congregate in large groups to amble about, moan and flagellate themselves, in hopes of appeasing God’s wrath. It makes sense, doesn’t it? If you think God is the source of the Plague, and the only one who can undo it, then why not go straight to the source?

The problem is lacerating your own skin, let alone in large crowds of people, exposes yourself to an even greater risk of infection via the mechanisms that diseases actually travel.

These days, Covid denialists and anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers spout pseudo-scientific hogwash. It’d be easier if they just congregated to moan and chant prayers and flail themselves like the good ol’ days.

"But some scientists warned that the plan could backfire, because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus. A few members of the government’s advisory panel raised that concern with respect to the elderly, according to a written summary of the discussion obtained by The New York Times."

https://dnyuz.com/2021/12/23/israel-considers-4th-vaccine-dose-but-some-experts-say-its-premature/

Do you know what that debate is about? They’re not debating whether to reject vaccines altogether. They’re debating the finer points of when exactly to time doses, and for which segments of the population.

Vaccine manufacturers are in a difficult position. They have to design a one-size-fits-all solution for an incredibly diverse human population. Consisting of: people ages 1 day to 120+ years. The disabled. The pregnant. The immunocompromised. People with rare genetic disorders. Inevitably, some segments of the population can’t take it, or have to take it on a different schedule. Timing 3rd and 4th doses and so on is a moving target, as this pandemic evolves, for all sorts of reasons.

Does that justify being anti-vaxx for no reason? No. Vaccines work, in general, but there are nuances.

" . . . but there are nuances."

Never in all of human history, have there been such ignorant people, in spite of having access to more information than our predecessors knew existed.

These "nuances" you gloss over include, but are not limited to, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks in young and otherwise healthy individuals, skin issues, death.

This to say nothing of how this may cause adverse, long term harm to immune systems, as well as other long term side effects we will not see for years.

You have somehow concluded that I am anti-vaxx; this is either a Red Herring, gaslighting, or lazy- perhaps a combination of all three.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/rand-paul-faucis-covid-strategy-causing-thousands-people-die-month?fbclid=IwAR34u3A7h2Cx9_uqYRxIHgWB6aKi2v4uIm9bG5zwwoakxF5hnp_9evaAPSQ

You are literally saying nothing, given that what you are saying is off-topic.

A+ for such a fine effort.
F- for reading comprehension.

You don’t think it’s interesting to compare the pandemic responses of the xenophobic, religious bigots of yesteryear to the xenophobic, religious bigots of today?

If you don’t find it fascinating, then you’re either intellectually incurious or perhaps the comparison hits too close to home. :)

No. It's two different viruses and two different shots. Comparing traditional vaccines to the covid shot is like comparing apples to BMWs.

Two different vaccines, two different shots. Indeed. The diseases change, the underlying science of vaccinations remains the same.

Your BMW comparison would be apt if we were talking about people taking a totally different category of drug (say, horse dewormer) thinking it will cure Covid. You may be surprised, I’ve read the studies which have shown Ivermectin can benefit Covid patients.*

*Covid patients that also have worms, specifically. You’ll find them in a lot of third-world countries. :)

Apparently you don't know the difference between a live/dead virus vaccine and an mRNA gene therapy shot. Please do some research.

"Replying to Chistmastic.sloth:"

Otherwise known as Octavia_Melody

Perhaps I wasn't specific enough:
"One would also have to ignore the large number of anecdotal cases, i.e. real world results, that exist in the world today."

That would be anecdotal evidence that Ivermectin has been used *successfully* to treat Covid patients. This is the true oddity of the liberal mind- so attached to the umbilical cord connected to the State, you are unable to, and/or unwilling to, acknowledge the clear evidence in front of you. Or rather, the evidence that is shoved in front of you, for you are not interested in finding it yourself out of fear for the narrative.

I have had Covid, and in spite of the fact that I am constantly exposed to hundreds of people every day while working, I have not had it again. Either it is not as prevalent in society as the MSM Propaganda Machine is telling you, or my natural immunity is far superior to these vaccines. Why not both?

ANYONE that ignores the vast array of diseases and maladies that Ivermectin is used for in humans solely for the purpose of demeaning its use to treat Covid, is either an imbecile, or just a nasty human being.

"Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved antiparasitic drug that is used to treat several neglected tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, helminthiases, and scabies.1 It is also being evaluated for its potential to reduce the rate of malaria transmission by killing mosquitoes that feed on treated humans and livestock.2 For these indications, ivermectin has been widely used and is generally well tolerated.1,3 Ivermectin is not approved by the FDA for the treatment of any viral infection."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

One would also have to ignore the large number of anecdotal cases, i.e. real world results, that exist in the world today. But that's the hallmark of the liberal progressive- ignore anything and everything that interferes with the required narrative, which in this case is the relinquishing of all rights to the State. This is embraced by Leftists like yourself because you cannot deal with the realities of adulthood, and instead desire an all encompassing Nanny State to take care of you from cradle to grave.

Cowardice is not a positive trait.

You missed that I already acknowledged above Ivermectin has benefits, lol. Liberals and doctors and scientists know this. See: Comment today on PoliticsTOO.

It seems a segment of anti-vaxxers have misinterpreted the drug’s uses, however. If you’re taking Ivermectin to fight Covid because studies have shown that Ivermectin benefits Covid patients in India — *who also have parasites* — then you’re reading those studies wrong.

Replying to Chistmastic.sloth:
"You missed that I already acknowledged above Ivermectin has benefits, lol. Liberals and doctors and scientists know this. See: Comment today on PoliticsTOO.

It seems a segment of anti-vaxxers have misinterpreted the drug’s uses, however. If you’re taking Ivermectin to fight Covid because studies have shown that Ivermectin benefits Covid patients in India — *who also have parasites* — then you’re reading those studies wrong."

Read the studies and do some research. Ivermectin alters the immune response so it ignores things that normally shut it down. That's how it kills parasites. The parasites send out chemicals that cause the immune system to ignore them and then they feed and breed. Ivermectin stops this and the immune system attacks and kills them. Covid has a similar mechanism in that it shuts off the immune system from attacking it until its spread throughout the body.

The CDC admits that the PCR test cannot differentiate between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.

The people of the world need to understand that the orchestrated “Covid pandemic” is the most horrible mass crime ever committed in human history. It was the “Free West” that organized and perpetrated this horrible crime.

https://www.europereloaded.com/cdc-admits-that-the-covid-pandemic-was-the-product-of-an-inappropriate-test/?fbclid=IwAR2OxEoJt0BCZfZJaQKsZXrl7HoAdrlxOgSsihCs2OvbSap3EiTaO0lYDEY

"You don’t think it’s interesting to compare the pandemic responses of the xenophobic, religious bigots of yesteryear to the xenophobic, religious bigots of today?"

I find your analogy to be inaccurate and misapplied, however, when we apply it to the zealous true believers like yourself, the Fauxciites, it fits seamlessly. How ironic, though, that the person who has swallowed everything his/her TV has told him without really questioning it accuses the other side, the rational and reasoning side, of being "intellectually incurious".

Your thought process strikes me as that of a certain infantile Imgflip user, who likes to pretend he's a little girl's cartoon pony.

Not to mention the George Washington "vaccine" was the puss of cow pox blisters.

Fortunately the pro-vax crowd have conditioned themselves to never EVER question . . . leftist controlled authority. It's a substitute for religion with them.

No... True.

You do?

you follow the biden/communist regime?

Seems like you do

The Biden socialists

Or is neo nazi more your style

Everything I've been reading that makes sense

The very essence of being "Leftist" is to revolt against the status quo and system.

The very essence of being "Rightist" is to accept the status quo and seek to preserve the system and the authority behind it.

Good grief Modda, you're about 25 years behind the times.

Those tables have turned. That was how it was when I was entering my voting years.

But somewhere along the line, the lefties became the subservient sheep. That's why I quit that sad party. Well, technically it quit me, but the net result is the same. I no longer suffer from group think.

Freedom!!! Come on Modda, say it with me... FREEDOM!!!

more like 40 years behind.

Your tags don't mean anything just the way you want it to be

Wha?

Communists