Jim Halpert Explains

Who's god? Not everyone is a relgious zealot suchvas yourself

OK Einstein - I do not know - who is God? (See, when you use the contraction "who's" it's short for "who is". In your sentence you should have used "whose", which is the possessive of "who".)

What is "relgious"? What is "suchvas"?

Yeah, I was gonna say. Which god they referring to?

There is only one. The One who created the heavens and the Earth and demonstrated His power through miracles. Thanks for asking and that's The God of the Holy bible.

See, that's why you gotta seperate church from state, different cultures serve different gods with different messages and being a diverse society, you can't impose just one on everybody, what about the athiests or agnostic, which is what I am, like millions of others, "god" doesn't factor into my or pthers sensabilities.

We gotta keep the state from violating the rights of religious people and otherwise. Religions aren't the issue - government is the issue. Forcing their fake science on on our school age children which cannot telll the difference between male and female and allowing boys in the girls bathrooms and other nonsense.

pthers ?

sensabilities ?

You're sure about that? Not only do other cultures have their own gods, some have more than one. What gives you the ultimate wisdom to know who's got it right?

See my statement above

That statement is just your opinion.

no - it's FACT

Then prove it.

What do you mean by "prove"? I gave you evidence and truth while you contradicted yourself. Evidence - Genesis 1-1 is consistent with science. The New Testiment is EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS. They are EARLY ACCOUNT - they were written within a lifetime of the events while witnesses were still living and we have no writings of dispute from that period. We have MIRACLES which demonstrate the divine. We have EMBARRASSING TESTIMONY - the writers have embarrassing things about themselves which are highly unlikely in an made up account. I can give you much more but this is plenty of EVIDENCE. Thanks for asking and enjoy your evening.

Common man, now you're being homophobic too?

*c'mon - damned auto correct

Holy f**k, we'd see harrasments of muslims would go up exponentially, so basically a regular week day

harrasments ?

Islam/Muslim doesn't compare. Muhammad is dead but Jesus is alive thus demonstrating his divinity and authority over nature. The Holy Bible is corrorobated historically while the koran is full of errors and faulty morality. The Holy Bible gives 3 highest moral command to us. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Love your neighbor as yourself. And whomever copells you to go with him 1 mile, go with him two. Now, if you can think of any higher moral commands than thes then I'd love to hear them. Where are they? Atheism? The Koran? Let me know.

See, there you go, that arrogance over which religion is the right religion. This is why we can't have nice things. Get relgion out of the way, practice it at home and church

So, you are claiming to be right but you aren't arrogant - I claim to be right and provide the evidence but I'm arrogant? Each world view contradicts the other so they cannot all be right. They can alll be wrong but they cannot all be right. This is the reason I provided EVIDENCE.

Evidence of what? Jesus is alive? See you claim your religion is the religion to follow, simply not true, different faiths, different gods. I remain agnostic, till you or anyone can prove in a one true god, then maybe we'll talk. Untill then you have your faith, I have mine, no one is right, the arrogance comes in the claim yours is the one true god, which is simply not so

What do you mean by "prove"? I gave you EVIDENCE which points to the one true God. You don't have to folllow anything and I never said such. That's up to you. The fact that there are "different faiths" doesn't mean that there is no one which is the true one. You are right that I have faith but it is based on the EVIDENCE.

Oh, and it's self defeating to claim that "no one is right" because that would mean that YOU AREN'T RIGHT EITHER, RIGHT??? Logic is another tool to discover what is true and false and a couple of your claims are outright false. I hope this helps.

What evidence? I still see no evidence. I see opinions, insults and ideals, but no factual evidence.

I'll give you the evidence again.

Genesis 1-1 is consistent with science. The New Testiment is EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS. They are EARLY ACCOUNT - they were written within a lifetime of the events while witnesses were still living and we have no writings of dispute from that period. We have MIRACLES which demonstrate the divine. We have EMBARRASSING TESTIMONY - the writers have embarrassing things about themselves which are highly unlikely in an made up account. I can give you much more but this is plenty of EVIDENCE.

I don't hate it, I just don't quite believe in it. You can believe what you wanna believe, But if you're gonna say theres only one true right relgion, your relgion, I'm gonna call you on it.

There's one true religion.

tbf, Zoroastrianism is but one religion in a world of many,,,

Nope

The Bible is HISTORY and none of it has been proven false - nothing you have stated here or anywhere else. The Bible records slavery and the other items you mentioned but it does not condone it as I have given you the 3 big prescriptions for morality. Jesus of Nazareth gave them.

Secular moralism? Like Hitler's??? Or how about Stalin?? You have no defense from either based on your own philosophy - a philosophy of "THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR SOCIETY". Atheism cannot ground any moral claims. On what basis? And where is these secularist moral claims which top the 3 which come from the Bible???? Let me help you - THEY DON"T EXIST. Our society would be amazing if everyone followed these 3 moral precepts from the BIble - PERIOD.

LOL!! As far as miracles are concerned - your comment has not disproved any of them. If God created the heavens and the Earth then what could stop Him from reaching inside of His creation and do them??? I'll help you out - NOTHING.

As for slavery - there is more than one type of slavery but God & the Bible has never looked upon it favorable but as a punishment. But there was a form of slavery which many today aren't familiar with called "indentured" or voluntary slavery. This happened when a person owed a debt which they could not pay as there were no banckruptcy laws or courts back then.

I hope this helps but you have a bigger issue if you want to claim that there is no God and and that is WHAT'S WRONG WITH SLAVERY if there is no God??? There is no right or wrong - just your opinion against the slaveowner's. It's just your opinion that Hitler was bad if God doesn't exist. It's just your opinion that something is "bad for society". Without God, everything is subjective and we simply have competing OPINIONS. Atheism is a world view and it has implications just like theism does and they are inescapable. You want to claim that there is no God but you want to make moral claims - and then say atheism isn't about morality. If there is no god then there is no morality - only subjective opinions. But you don't believe that. How do I know? Because you implied that slavery is immoral and so was Hitler and Stalin. Thank you for affirning God.

SMHID!!!

The Christian god and the Muslim god are the same diety, the god of Abraham. He's just interpreted differently. And both interpretations were done by fallible humans.

Do explain?

SMHID!!!!

You prove yourself wrong every day.

If you were concerned about being right you wouldn't even log on to this site.

Where are these Christians doing this? Where does the Bible make these commands? Did you know that the Bible says "DO NOT MURDER"???? What else you got?

If there's no God then it's not wrong to murder anyone and yet you are making moral claims. You are only throwing your opinon out if there is no God and it's subjective. If anything is really right or really wrong then it needs a higher authority but you got nothing but rocks and air.

That makes as much sense as saying Atheists commit murder suicides because they believe there is no afterlife and judgement.

And millions more where atheists believe they were doing the greater good...for humanity...but that's Ok...cause they were not following the orders of "god". They were good because they thought of it themselves.

You bring up an excellent point in that atheist murdered something like 100 million people last century alone. I may have to check that number but it was pretty high!!

Everyone that died from Communist leaders in the 20th century alone outnumbers total deaths in wars with religious backing throughout history. The wholesale massacre of their own countrymen in the name of "the greater good" puts the worst religious zealots to shame.

Communists in the 20th century were atheists, and one of the first items to accomplish once they took over was to minimize all forms of religion in their countries. The state banners take the place of steeples etc...The state is venerated to god-like status, being the sole support of everyone in it. Atheism, with its philosophies, are followed just like a religious text. They are the same. They kill to promote a philosophy that is atheist in its origins, so. 10's of millions of people died as a result of these actions...in one century, more than all the wars in all the centuries prior to that.

Communists are far better at it and can do it from a leadership position. That's the point you just made inadvertently. Communists kill more per capita than religious people...noted.

We also have incidents where non believers killed themselves and others because they think it doesn’t matter.

What’s the difference?
Killing because you’re hearing voices in your head and think it’s god. Or killing because you think there is no god and if you’re going to commit suicide, why not get your name in the news too.
Those who believe there is an afterlife and we will be judged for our actions are far less likely to commit murder.

You’re assuming that the Christians/Muslims were all sane. Weather you murder in the name of god or for your own demented pleasure is irrelevant. The fact still remains that sane Christians believe they will be judge for sins they don’t repent of. One of the steps of repentance is restitution of what was taken/lost. Since we cannot restore life, we can’t fully repent of that sin.
And before you go on about killings sanctioned by religious leaders, keep in mind that far more people have been killed due to secular rulers than religions.

“So any Christian who does that must be insane rather than just doing what their religion says. How convenient.”

So any Christian who does that is just following what their religion says? You’re grasping at straws.

“Not all Christians believe that as part of their interpretation of Christianity.”

Oh, so since any Christian can have his/her own interpretation of Christianity, then any crime they commit must be due to their Christian believes, eh? How convenient.

“Where does the Bible say that?”

Exodus 22: 1-3
Leviticus 6: 4-5
Numbers 5: 7
Just to name a few.

“this topic is specifically about religious people who believe that commands from their God supersede commands from the government”

And one of the commandments from god is to not commit murder. No sane Christian goes around murdering people because “God told me to.”

The Bible is clear in the 6th commandment - THOU SHALL NOT MuRDER. So, any Christian who does so is not following scripture. I hope this helps.

They are obviously wrong as the Bible clearly states DO NOT MURDER. Just like there are crazy Christians - there are crazy atheist. The difference is the athiest has no commands to not murder. Try again.

And there's nothing wrong with that unless God exists.

But He is against murder so that fails. Try again.

Under what circumstances are you referring to? I gave you the 3 highest moral commands in history from the Bible and to do so is a violation of those commands. If atheism is true then where are the moral commands???? Why shouldn't I kill, steal and rape?? Heck, as long as you can get away with it then why not??

I don't have enough faith to be an atheist and here's why. I would have to believe that the universe began for no reason whatsoever by nobody. Where do morals even come from if we are simply molecules? They are immaterial and so is personality and thinking and reasoning. What about logic? Where does it come from? Where does love come from? These are immaterial realities and they have a source like everything in the universe. Are you using your mind to argue? Where does it come from? Are the laws of logic real?

The universe had a beginning and therefore it had a "beginner". The universe consists of TIME, SPACE and MATTER. Therefore who or whatever created the universe is/was TIMELESS - they created TIME. SPACELESS because they created SPACE. IMMATERIAL because they created all of the matter in the universe. So, we have a TIMELESS, SPACELESS and IMMATERIAL entity who did all of this - SOUNDS LIKE GOD.

And what is the penalties for breaking laws in atheism?

I was talking to someone years ago about the value of religion in regards to people whose only incentive to not steal, rape, kill, etc, is a bogeyman in the sky who'll boil them forever if they don't keep a lid on it, imagine how'd they and a scoiety with them would be without religion to restrain them.
She told me about 28 Days Later and later gave me the DVD.

That reality with folks of this mindset is just as horrible as in that movie is rather chilling.

Not to mention these fakers are missing their own point. Or do they think "Born again" means just a head dunk in a bucket of water?

"Bobbing for Apples: How I Found Salvation and Had a Tasty Snack" coming soon to a bookstore near you,,,

What a mess! So, if morals come from humans then correct me if I am wrong but Hitler and Stalin were humans, right? So their murders were ok? This is YOUR VIEW. Do you read the nonsense you write? It's atheism you are explaining - makes no sense.

You would do well to read Frank Turek because he's right.

And the death penalty for a whole lot of stuff.

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