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Vaccines are tailored to the illness

That is what they are for... Specific illnesses.

so why doesn't ivermectin kill covid?

Why dont the vaccines kill the viruses?

vaccines let your body kill viruses.

ivermectin let's covid kill conservatives.

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-09-08-science-paper-ivermectin-blocks-viral-replication-covid.html

Also remedial elementary schooling:

let's = let us
lets = allows

Bleach blocks viral replication. So does salt. And ammonia. A lot of things do.

I owe you a reply from a couple of weeks ago.
I did read it then, just didn't get around to replying.

fake

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=newstarget.com

Awww . . . they don't like a conservative website.

Since you disproved nothing, your argument fails.

Even a "fact checker" could understand that.

do you have evidence that's not some obscure qanon outlet?

something from respected journalists? crickets

I personally have known several dozen "respected journalists" at the national level.

I trust my own ability to examine arguments on their own merit instead of state approval far above the judgment of any one of them.

Oh yeah, and you didn't repudiate the published science paper itself. So you lose again.

Your credentials are most impressive.
I will take your word on everything now.

so why don't they agree with you?

search "95% of covid deaths are unvaxxed"

No.

Seems to be working. sorryantivaxxer.com :)

Well the vaccines don't kill covid dummy.

"Maple_Husky

Well the vaccines don't kill covid dummy."

Well, the vaccines don't kill Covid, dummy.*

Calling someone a "dummy" is rendered more efficient when you don't 'emulate' it.

Vaccines let your body kill covid.

Ivermectin let's covid kill anti-vaxxers.

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-09-08-science-paper-ivermectin-blocks-viral-replication-covid.html

fake

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=newstarget.com

Awww . . . they don't like a conservative website.

Since you disproved nothing, your argument fails.

Even a "fact checker" could understand that.

do you have evidence that's not some obscure qanon outlet?

something from respected journalists? crickets

I personally have known several dozen "respected journalists" at the national level.

I trust my own ability to examine arguments on their own merit instead of state approval far above the judgment of any one of them.

Oh yeah, and you didn't repudiate the published science paper itself. So you lose again.

so why don't they agree with you?

so why don't they agree with you?

search "95% of covid deaths are unvaxxed"

The assumption that unvaccinated people are viral factories for more dangerous variants is false
Just as antibiotics breed resistance in bacteria, vaccines put evolutionary pressure on viruses to speed up mutations and create more virulent and dangerous variants

In an interview for the documentary “Planet Lockdown,”8 Michael Yeadon, Ph.D., a life science researcher and former vice-president and chief scientist at Pfizer, pointed out the fraud being perpetrated with regard to variants. He actually refers to them as “simians,” because they’re near-identical to the original. And, as such, they pose no greater threat than the original.

“It’s quite normal for RNA viruses like SARS-CoV-2, when it replicates, to make typographical errors,” Yeadon explains. “It’s got a very good error detection, error correction system so it doesn’t make too many typos, but it does make some, and those are called ‘variants.’

It’s really important to know that if you find the variant that’s most different from the sequence identified in Wuhan, that variance … is only 0.3% different from the original sequence.

I’ll say it another way. If you find the most different variance, it’s 99.7% identical to the original one, and I can assure you … that amount of difference is absolutely NOT possibly able to represent itself to you as a different virus.”

Your immune system is a multifaceted system that allows your body to mount defenses against all sorts of threats. Parasites, fungi, bacteria and viruses are the main threat categories. Each of these invades and threatens you in completely different ways, and your immune system has ways of dealing with all of them, using a variety of mechanisms.

Whether you’re going to be susceptible to variants has very little to do with whether or not you have antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, because antibodies are not your primary defense against viruses, T cells are. What this means then, is that getting booster shots for different variants is not going to help, because these shots do not strengthen your T cell immunity.

“When your government scientists tell you that a variant that’s 0.3% different from SARS-CoV-2 could masquerade as a new virus and be a threat to your health, you should know, and I’m telling you, they are lying,” Yeadon says.

“If they’re lying, and they are, why is the pharmaceutical industry making top-up [booster] vaccines? … There’s absolutely no possible justification for their manufacture.”

Quotation marks and citing of the source are proper when copypasting.

first of all, you're citing a quack.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

second, 95% of all deaths are unvaxxed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=95%25+of+all+covid+deaths+are+unvaccinated

third, you should try running news domains through a quack test.
mediabiasfactcheck.com

First of all: Fackcheck aka libterd lies.

Second: false facts.

Third: why would I trust someone like you who can't see how horrible this country is becoming.

all your sources are pseudoscience quacks.

95% of all covid deaths unvaxxed.

Whether you’re going to be susceptible to variants has very little to do with whether or not you have antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, because antibodies are not your primary defense against viruses, T cells are. What this means then, is that getting booster shots for different variants is not going to help, because these shots do not strengthen your T cell immunity.

evidence? something credible please.

here. i'll help you make your own case.

i typed in exactly what you said.

https://www.google.com/search?q=t+cells+work+against+variants+not+vaccines

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/09/covid-19-natural-immunity-compared-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-the-definitive-summary/

conservative political opinions are not science, they are pseudoscience.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=sharylattkisson.com

https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/12590/20210715/immunity-to-covid-stronger-when-it-s-a-result-of-natural-infection-not-vaccination-report.htm

are you a duck? you quack a lot.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=christianitydaily.com

Good Lord factcheck is bias trash.

because it discredits quackery?

People like you think science itself is biased because it doesn’t suit your narrative. It’s laughable. When facts and truth are presented they simply pivot to a different point layered in nonsense. When proven wrong about that they scream “fake news” or “yeah right!” In your case “good lord factcheck is his trash”

People complaining about how medicines are used are the kind of people who don't use their brains for anything. Most of the medicines we use are also used by veterinarians to treat animals.

My doctor has me take snake venom to control my blood pressure. He calls it lisinopril. I guess technically is really isn't the venom of a Brazilian viper, lisinopril actually is a synthetic version of the snake venom.

ivermectin doesn't kill covid.

Neither does the vaccine.

If it did it would probably be A) harmful to the body or B) considered a cure. There is no cure for the common cold either but we still buy cough medicine. If Ivermectin knocks the symptoms out and shortens the time of the infection then whats the problem?

Why is it that if anyone says something is working, like ivermectin or hydroxyclorquine, the left goes on a crusade to squash that. I just do not understand why you guys do that. Trump's no longer president so you don't have to hate ivermectin and hyroxychlorqine because of Trump. Or is your Trump hatred just still too severe? Did Trump put emotional scars on you?

If I ever get COVID you had better believe that I am going to demand prescriptions from my doctor to one or the other or both.

I'm happy to take the Trump vax or the biden vax. Whichever one of them wants to slap their name on it I'm okay with it because neither of them rushed it although Trump tried to and I understand how digital vaccines are developed.

Trump did a few good things that I'm not going to get into here because that would be going off topic. But every president does three good things.

Ivermectin simply doesn't work against covid and it gives people a placebo effect while also being unnecessarily toxic.

The vaccine does not kill the virus it allows your body to kill the virus and it works.

95% of all covid deaths are now unvaxxed.

The fact that so many childish conservatives are so wrapped up in this stolen election conspiracy that they want to discount the vaccine that Trump himself got going so that they can take ivermectin or bleach or anything else but that vaccine is just stupid.

And that is why we need websites like sorryantivaxxer.com

Shhh.... Don't tell anybody :-)

I'm ambivalent about the vaccine. My wife and I both got the Pfizer vaccine last Spring. But I am very hesitant about getting any booster shots. I don't see the vaccine being all that effective. However, it did save a friend's life. He got COVID and came very close to dying. The doctor told him that had he not been vaccinated he would have died.

The election was stolen. That is clear. The left can deny it all they want but that does not change the facts.

Don't tell people that! It will ruin your cred :-)

I am open for any legitimate evidence Trump has that the election was stolen.

But be careful what you wish for because pelosi becomes president.

Don't scare me like that. I just cannot imagine how much more insane our government would become if Pelosi were to become president. I would have to leave the country.

I don't care if people know I got vaccinated. It was my choice... well actually my wife's choice but that's another issue. :) I will still stand with those who do not want their freedom taken from them. I volunteered to get the vaccine. That should be the choice given to everyone and not a mandate, especially from the federal government.

There has only been one side effect from it. I keep wanting to vote Democrat. :D

we wouldn't need a mandate if it weren't a hoax :)

the richest nation has the highest deaths.

cyber war for people's minds works.

I never said it was a hoax. The virus is real and people have actually died from it. I value freedom more than anything else. If people want to get vaccinated then that is their choice. It is NOT the right or responsibility of the government to force a vaccine mandate on the people. Our government does not have that power. They want that power and that is why they are using a crisis to take that power. Democrats have been doing that for decades. Rahm Emmanuel actually said, "We should never let a crisis go to waste".

I am demanding that we maintain our liberty in spite of any crisis. We must not let the government use excuses to take our liberty and amass more power.

The richest nation also has one of the highest populations. We'll never reach China or India's population but we have more people in just California than most of the countries around the world.

We have more people dying just from old age than many countries have in every cause of death.

Forced vaccines or not we have the highest infection rate and deaths DESPITE other countries having much larger populations.

We are doing a terrible job in this country because of how Trump politicized the virus and the resulting anti-vaxxers.

Other bigger countries are doing much better because they're not politicizing the issue.

At any rate 65% of the country is now vaccinated and the other 35% are playing Russian roulette.

If they want to die let him die they just shouldn't take anybody else down with them who cannot get vaccinated.

And they should stay out of hospitals so people who need other procedures can get work done.

We have doctors and nurses who are quitting out of burnout not vaccine mandates.

But instead of personal responsibility they will hold on to the stolen election and allow variance to mutate.

I'll have to research that. I hear a whole lot of incorrect data here on ImgFlip from some of the people.

No one should be denied treatment for COVID for any reason.

The majority of blacks refuse the vaccine. If I was a Democrat and you were any kind of conservative or libertarian, I would be calling you a racist right about now. But I'm not a Democrat and I know what you're trying to say and it's not about race.

I just think what you are saying is cruel and vindictive.

blame conservatives for tuskegee. that's why many blacks don't want the vax.

many latino antivaxxers think the vax is another crazy white selfie trend or they are following the evangelicals against using abortion stem cells to make the vax.

but they take plenty of abortion based OTC meds LOL

"but they take plenty of abortion based OTC meds LOL"

Yes, there are women on the right who do get abortions. But there are not "plenty" of them. You are just projecting to make you feel good about yourself.

I blame the US Government for Tuskegee. I couldn't tell you because I have never asked any black people who are not vaccinated why they aren't. But then I don't ask ANYONE regardless of race or whatever who are not vaccinated why they aren't. It is none of my business. I really don't care if they are vaccinated or not.

All I can tell you is that these are the statistics that have been reported. So it could be Tuskegee but more than likely it is just a general distrust in the government. JUST LIKE MOST CONSERVATIVES. (BTW, I am not yelling, I am emphasizing).

I'm not living in California around my in-laws so I don't know what my Mexican in-laws think about the vaccine. I know my wife is the one who suggested that we get vaccinated. My wife is half Mexican. Her father is from Alabama and her mother was born in Mexico. So that makes my wife a Hickspanic or a Rednexican. Órale y'all....

The reason why she suggested it is because the president of the Church my wife and I belong to encouraged the members to get vaccinated. He used to be a well respected heart surgeon so we figured he had an idea of what this vaccine was about. He actually invented the first artificial heart.

The booster is good because what you got back in the spring has reduced effectiveness by now.

We're going to need to do yearly top offs.

My problem is that all of the vaccines have been linked to causing deep vein thrombosis. My wife has already had two DVTs several years ago. She has to take blood thinners to make sure none come back.

I'm afraid the booster shot my trigger another DVT. However, she is taking blood thinners so she might not even be bothered by it. Anyway, she could die from a DVT with the booster or she might die from COVID without the booster shot.

if she wears compression socks, walks around, takes her meds and elevates her legs after the vax she should be fine?

She has some compression socks but she never wears them. She hasn't had any problems with blood clots in about 8 years. I think it is all because of the meds. She also goes for long walks around the neighborhood while I'm at work.

Sounds like she will be okay then?

I hope so. Thanks.

I don't see the vaccine being all that effective. However, it did save a friend's life.

I’d say that’s pretty effective.

Also- most vaccines need a booster.

Yes it saved his life but it did not prevent him from getting COVID. That is what I meant. Plus he was in the hospital. I am sure the doctors were giving him other medicines and were not just waiting around hoping the vaccine would kick in and save him.

Vaccines don't "kick in" after you get them. They induce an immune response that "teaches" your immune system to react the next time the virus (or the protein associated with the virus in the case of mRNA vaccines) present themselves. What "kicks in" is your own immune system.

Also- Vaccines don't really prevent you from getting anything. They allow your body to better fight off the viruses if you are exposed to them. Many vaccines need to be administered a few times or more to best "teach" your immune system to fight off the viruses. This is why we need boosters. They "boost" your immune system against the virus they are made for. Babies get measles boosters etc. You may still be "infected" by a virus after you are vaccinated but you would never know it because your immune system would have done it's job of killing off the virus after being taught by the vaccine. Some people's immune systems are not as robust as others so more boosters may be necessary to better protect them....not from getting the virus....but how they react to the virus when presented it. These same people may in fact NEVER be very well protected and may get COVID and even die. But that's not the fault of the vaccine. Their immune systems are compromised to the point that it doesn't do it's job. These people would *definitely* die from COVID with or without a vaccine. However, the vaccines work VERY well at saving lives and vaccinated people spread the virus at far lower rates than unvaccinated people so it's helpful in that way too.

I hope ivermectin DOES help. Let science show it works or not. The actual, provable, reproducible, quantifiable science isn’t there.

But it’s there for the vaccine. Get the vaccine. You won’t need ivermectin.

racist against horses? :)

The vaccine does not prevent you from getting COVID. It just reduces your likelihood of getting COVID. I actually know a man who was fully vaccinated when he got COVID.

Yes. It works well.

If it works well then no one should get COVID if they have been vaccinated. That is just not the case. The vaccine helps but it is not the end of COVID.

I think this vaccine was rushed together as a stop gap until science has the appropriate amount of time to come up with a real vaccine. That is why all pharmaceutical companies that produce this vaccine are exempt from any legal repercussions. They know that this is only going to slow down the spread of the virus and they don't want to get sued so they got the government to exempt them from any liability whatsoever.

So sad:

"The_Knight_Who_Says_Ni

No I'm not. I'm not involved in any political group. I have no idea if Q Anon believes that.

Here is my rational in a nutshell.

Several years ago the UN came up with their scenario for solving climate change. They called it Agenda 21. The goal was to limit the world's population to live, work and vacation all within a predetermined area. It was their agenda for the 21st century.

Later the UN in set a date by which Agenda 21would begin. That year is 2030 and so they called that agenda Agenda 2030. There are 17 goals they list on their website that if you think about how those goals are going to be implemented the tyranny becomes very apparent.

In 2014 the World Economic Forum came up with a "would it be nice if..." plan to reset the world's economy and dump capitalism. They called it the Great Reset.

In 2017 the Johns Hopkins University held an simulation of what would happen if a coronavirus mutated into a more deadly form and spread worldwide. They called the virus SPARS. I think the last 3 letters stand for Acute Respiratory Syndrome, I can't remember what the 1st 2 letters stand for.

In Oct 2019 Johns Hopkins University, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Economic Forum held Event 201 to discuss the potential for a global pandemic.

2 to 3 months later a virus escaped from the Wuhan Lab in China and a corona virus global pandemic started.

Since 2014 the little idea for the Great Reset picked up a whole lot of steam from the most socialistic nations from around the world. The WEF came up with a slogan for their plan and that slogan is "Build Back Better".

In 2020 Joe Biden wins the Democratic primary election by voter fraud, cutting out the true winner, Bernie Sanders. Biden's presidential campaign decides their campaign slogan will be "Build Back Better".

Nov 2020 Biden is declared the president-elect.

John Kerry meets with Klaus Schwab, president of the WEF and assures him that Biden is 100% on board with the Great Reset.

Since then the Biden administration has been working overtime to do everything in their power to destroy the economy. Jobs are being lost. Businesses have been shut down (many of them because of the pandemic which was also being used to collapse the economy), inflation is out of control and now the Federal Reserve is talking about raising interest rates. The Great Reset is happening right before your eyes and because you don't understand what is happening you call me Q Anon??"

I can't wait for The_Knight_Who_Says_Ni blabbering some "QAnon is Democrat therefore Leftist" hooey, much like his, "Alt Right? Never heard of it, but let me tell you what it is: Alt Right has nothing to do with the Right, it has to do with Alt Rock and Roll Music like that Nerve Anna band of Hippies who are Yippies therefore they're radicals and thus Leftists and thus Democrats after the switch even though there was no switch yadda yadda..."

Do you think it impossible for someone on their own to piece together a series of events and wonder about their possible connections?

I have been to the UN's and the WEF's websites. I have read what some of what they have published about these subjects... Not everything because they had a ton of stuff on their websites but I have read enough. I found out about Event 201 and the other conference before that (I can't remember what they called that one) and I have found their own websites on each of those events.

Yet you have the audacity to come here and infer something for which you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

Yes I could be totally off base and I am prepared to accept that if I am. I just think there are far too many coincidences going on here.

I dare you to do the research that I have. I dare you to go to those websites. I dare you to prove me wrong. If you can I will publicly concede that what I think happened was not connected at all.

But you won't because it is all tl;dr.

Flake minds stink alike?
Sure, it happens in Sci Fi movies all the time - telepathy, they call it.

Everything you post is from a script, only you overdo it with the Democrat > Leftists > Communists embellishments to the point of parody.
I wasn't sure if your overly earnest Gump routine wasn't really just subdued trolling till SSTTUUTTAA shut you up and sent you running last week.

That the UN and the World Economic Forum and Johns Hopkins, etc, have all published plans for mass culling and test runs for plagues and all that is just so steeped in the silly, you must be special in the head to post it without feeling utterly embarrassed, unless you truly are a gimp pickled in maximum masochist juice.

Seriously, what, you were just perusing their publications and came by this stuff? Or did you search "culling" and "mass sterilization plans" and it turned up, because they're not all using the same terms?

No vaccine is 100% effective. And again - vaccines don’t stop you from “getting” covid or any disease. They allow you to fight them off. These vaccines are no different. Polio still exists as does measles etc. They work very well at saving lives and slowing the spread of covid. If everyone was vaccinated we could have wiped it out to the point of other diseases like polio and measles.

Yes, you are correct. No vaccine is 100% effective. But vaccines have had the appropriate amount of time to be fully researched work close to 100% effective while this vaccine is much less effective.

Like I said this vaccine was rushed together. The vaccines for measles and polio took years to create.

Pretty sure you may be over reacting and/or paranoid. Again, good luck.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/joe-biden-build-back-better-trump-disinformation/

This video was on the WEF's website until the conservatives saw it and made a big deal about it. Fortunately people downloaded it before the WEF took it down.

https://rumble.com/vn6fmr-you-will-own-nothing-and-you-will-be-happy-world-economic-forum.html

So if you think I am paranoid or over reacting then please tell me how you feel about not owning anything.

BTW after everything the socialists have been doing here and abroad, private property ownership is the last nail in the coffin before any one becomes fully 100% socialist.

Our founding fathers and economic philosophers such as John Locke talked extensively about private property ownership is the foundation upon which freedom exists. If we cannot own our house, our land and even our lives then someone else does and we are at their mercy for what they will allow us to do with *their* property.

So I can tell you right now that owning nothing will NOT make me happy. I believe in freedom and that all political power resides in the hands of the individual, NOT the state.

The problem is that there are 3 types of people in the world. Those who are driven to rule over others. Those who want to be ruled by others. And those who just want to be left alone. I am in the last group. I want to be left alone and let me determine how I want to live my life.

What group are you in?

Technology then was not as good as we have now. mRNA is not new technology it’s been used for years. New for vaccines but not new to therapeutic drugs. Trump pumped billions into the development of the vaccines and because covid is a rather fast cycling virus the data was easy and fast to collect. They are safe and effective.

I actually believe this virus is part of a much larger global plan. I think that the people, who unleashed this virus to create a global crisis, already have a vaccine but they are only reserving it for the ruling elite.

They've been planning for this since at least 2014. It's part of the Great Reset.

Ohhhhhh I understand know. You’re a q anon person. Nevermind. Good luck.

No I'm not. I'm not involved in any political group. I have no idea if Q Anon believes that.

Here is my rational in a nutshell.

Several years ago the UN came up with their scenario for solving climate change. They called it Agenda 21. The goal was to limit the world's population to live, work and vacation all within a predetermined area. It was their agenda for the 21st century.

Later the UN in set a date by which Agenda 21would begin. That year is 2030 and so they called that agenda Agenda 2030. There are 17 goals they list on their website that if you think about how those goals are going to be implemented the tyranny becomes very apparent.

In 2014 the World Economic Forum came up with a "would it be nice if..." plan to reset the world's economy and dump capitalism. They called it the Great Reset.

In 2017 the Johns Hopkins University held an simulation of what would happen if a coronavirus mutated into a more deadly form and spread worldwide. They called the virus SPARS. I think the last 3 letters stand for Acute Respiratory Syndrome, I can't remember what the 1st 2 letters stand for.

In Oct 2019 Johns Hopkins University, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Economic Forum held Event 201 to discuss the potential for a global pandemic.

2 to 3 months later a virus escaped from the Wuhan Lab in China and a corona virus global pandemic started.

Since 2014 the little idea for the Great Reset picked up a whole lot of steam from the most socialistic nations from around the world. The WEF came up with a slogan for their plan and that slogan is "Build Back Better".

In 2020 Joe Biden wins the Democratic primary election by voter fraud, cutting out the true winner, Bernie Sanders. Biden's presidential campaign decides their campaign slogan will be "Build Back Better".

Nov 2020 Biden is declared the president-elect.

John Kerry meets with Klaus Schwab, president of the WEF and assures him that Biden is 100% on board with the Great Reset.

Since then the Biden administration has been working overtime to do everything in their power to destroy the economy. Jobs are being lost. Businesses have been shut down (many of them because of the pandemic which was also being used to collapse the economy), inflation is out of control and now the Federal Reserve is talking about raising interest rates. The Great Reset is happening right before your eyes and because you don't understand what is happening you call me Q Anon??