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Govern me harder, Big Government. | Forcing children to wear germ-ridden cloths over their faces for 8+ hours is ABUSIVE | image tagged in change my mind,covid,democrats,liberal logic,evil | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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0 ups, 3y,
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When President Trump is reelected in a gigantic wave of righteous glory, all you frigging mask-NAZIs will be punished severely. 🖕🙂
0 ups, 3y
lol nah.
6 ups, 3y
It is child abuse.
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3 ups, 3y
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3 ups, 3y,
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Hundreds of high school kids in Colorado walked out of school to protest mask mandates. In Europe most countries won't be forcing them on the kids in the Fall.
0 ups, 3y,
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That’s because over 70% of adults (and probably most of the kids) are vaccinated.
1 up, 3y,
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Absolutely untrue. Depends on the country.

Norway has never recommended face masks at any level of schooling. Indeed, the Norwegian Institute of Public Health explicitly advises against masking primary school-aged children.

In Sweden, where masks are no longer even recommended on public transit at rush hour, masks have never been recommended or required in the country’s schools, either primary or secondary. They will not be recommended when schools open this month.

The ECDC does not recommend masking primary students at all.
0 ups, 3y,
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You said “in Europe”

And MANY countries/schools require masks in Europe. See how:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-europe-education-f/back-to-school-how-european-classrooms-are-coping-with-covid-idUKKBN25S4PD

Vaccination rates overall are 70% for adults *IN EUROPE* This could be a factor.
https://vaccinetracker.ecdc.europa.eu/public/extensions/COVID-19/vaccine-tracker.html#uptake-tab
1 up, 3y,
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You don't have the brains for this. So Norway and Sweden are not in Europe? Piddle off huckster.
0 ups, 3y,
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Yes. IN EUROPE. They don’t make up the entirety of Europe.
0 ups, 3y,
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Figured that out all by yourself did ya?
0 ups, 3y
Lol I understand you’re confused. But someday you may see the light. Keep trying.
3 ups, 3y,
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"Forcing" is a complete exaggeration. People advise you to wear a mask because that way, you can be protected. And if you have a problem with the masks being germ-ridden, then just wash the mask or buy a new one. They're not expensive, and they're disposable.
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2 ups, 3y
You aren't up to speed with the reality in schools across the US.
3 ups, 3y,
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"People advise you to wear a mask because that way, you can be protected."

It has long gone beyond merely advising- it is required in many work places.

And it is important to note- masks do *nothing* to prevent the spread of infectious disease. What is tragic and infuriating is that the 'powers-that-be" know this, hence the reason that so many politicians and 'scientists' have been frequently caught not following their own mask mandates.

When you add to this the fact that 99% of mask wearers do not wear them properly, they do more harm than good.
2 ups, 3y
I thought you might find this article interesting & helpful when “debating” the useful idiots.

https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/MasksAreHarmful-Meehan2020.html#MaH14
1 up, 3y,
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99%? Geez, that's a big exaggeration.
3 ups, 3y
"99%? Geez, that's a big exaggeration."

You need to get out in the public more. I work amongst them, and I can assure you they have no idea how to handle them properly. And homemade masks?! If this were a real pandemic we would all be dead.
2 ups, 3y,
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You might find this article interesting.

https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/MasksAreHarmful-Meehan2020.html#MaH14
0 ups, 3y
Hmmm..

You know, I never knew that.
3 ups, 3y,
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Hey, Teenager here. I'm fine with the mask.
3 ups, 3y
This is why teenagers are ignored.
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2 ups, 3y,
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While technically still a child, I would consider you to be a young adult if you're a teen. Not the same as the 4-10 years old group that would not wear the mask correctly, and would likely have more risk wearing a mask than not.

Thanks for weighing in though!
0 ups, 3y,
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Children wear pants correctly. And shoes. They live up to much higher bars than perhaps you think they can.
1 up, 3y,
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2 ups, 3y,
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You seem to be implying that children wear masks correctly. Is that backed up by science? Because it’s not even backed up in the photo you used. At least two of the children are wearing them beneath their nose, and none of those look like N95 masks to me.
1 up, 3y
"Also anything is better than nothing."

And there it is- the dumbest thing I have read today.

None of these masks are able to prevent the spread of infectious disease. This has been known based on the accumulated *scientific* knowledge from over the last 50+ years.

So no, it is NOT better than nothing. Tests have been run on masks worn by school age children, and were found to be harboring all manner of nasty germs and molds.

And to post a picture as proof that they can wear them correctly, something that represents a moment in time, and was choreographed to dupe liberal morons? The issue with wearing useless masks is how they are handled and maintained throughout the day.
1. Are they changed every 30-60 minutes?
2. Does the wearer avoid touching the mask in the wrong places?
3. Is the mask properly fitted, though anything other than a properly fitted N95 mask can in no way fit to a degree of safety where it does the wearer any good.
4. Is the mask properly discarded after that 30-60 minute wear period?
5. We are talking about children here- have the wearers shared and/or traded their masks?
6. etc.

Obviously you weren't very alert as a young child, and/or you have a deluded memory of what it is like to be a child, though from all indications, that may only have been last week for you, but what an absolute pipe dream you have cooked up for us here.

And all of this ignores the far more significant danger to these children, which is stunting their emotional development. And it is even more egregious given the fact that precisely 0.0000001% of children have died from Covid. We knew from early on that they were not susceptible to the disease, and were not carriers.

I realize how important it is for you that Big Government be right, because you require someone to handle life's responsibilities for you, and that you need everyone to obey without question to support this delusion. I am sorry to break it to you that government makes most things worse; liberal govt makes things dangerously worse.
0 ups, 3y,
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Children can do things when told how. Also anything is better than nothing.
2 ups, 3y,
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Wearing masks for political theater is child abuse.
0 ups, 3y,
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Not really but allowing them to contract and spread a disease is.
2 ups, 3y,
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Yes really, actually. I think it is horrific abuse. Kids need to play and breathe freely. They need to see each other’s faces, they need to see each other smile.

You disgust me.
0 ups, 3y
Aw. Feelings hurt? It’s ok snowflake.
2 ups, 3y,
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So you are against the California law that allows spreading HIV knowingly to unwilling partners?
0 ups, 3y
Not sure why that matters here relating to Covid and children. Stay on topic.
1 up, 3y,
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“Aw. Feelings hurt? It’s ok snowflake.

In answer to your question. — No. My feelings are not hurt. I just find you to be disgusting.
0 ups, 3y
“F**k your feelings”

Remember that gem?
1 up, 3y,
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Enjoy breathing in 13,000ppm of Carbon Dioxide, while anything above 1,200ppm is considered toxic.
0 ups, 3y,
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So masks can trap CO2 but not a virus and droplets? Weird.
1 up, 3y,
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"So masks can trap CO2 but not a virus and droplets? Weird."

Creating an increase in concentration is not the same thing as "trapping". And capturing droplets is not the same thing as capturing the considerably smaller viruses.

Droplets- the ONLY reason that surgeons wear masks in the first place, in order to prevent droplets from getting into open surgical wounds. But you best expect your surgeon to not operate on you if they are sick, because their masks will NOT prevent them from spreading what they have to you.
0 ups, 3y,
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Also viruses (not in droplets) are way larger than co2. So- if CO2 can be “concentrated” then so would viruses.
2 ups, 3y
And whatever you do, DO NOT believe your lying eyes!!!
1 up, 3y,
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"So- if CO2 can be “concentrated” then so would viruses."

OK, let's see if I can help you learn how to think things through a little better. Just as with that picture you posted being shortsighted in its portent, so too is this thought of yours.

The very fact that no one dies [immediately] from CO2 concentration indicates that it does escape. The same is true for the virus. And just as CO2 can build up, so too can other larger germs and molds, none of which is healthy for the wearer.

Hoping that these generally breathable masks will keep the virus from spreading is a false hope, and this has given far too many at-risk people a false, and dangerous, sense of security. Many should have stayed at home, but did not because of this voodoo science that is more political than actual science.

But continue to ignore 50 years of science and data.
0 ups, 3y,
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Co2 is a gas. If masks can effectively contain a gas, certainly it can contain a much larger virus.
2 ups, 3y
Masks in common usage do not contain the virus.

Containing the virus ability does not even begin until you get to the N95 type masks or better, which almost nobody wears.
0 ups, 3y,
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Creating an increase in concentration is not the same thing as "trapping".

Lol ok
2 ups, 3y
Seriously- I think it's cute how you try and discourse with the adults, but I think it's past time for you to go back to the kiddie's table . . .
2 ups, 3y,
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Medical masks force the wearer to inspire (re-breathe) air that is a mix of air from the local environment and the respiratory waste products from the mask wearer’s previous exhalations.

Respiratory exhalations contain significantly higher levels of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the waste products of respiration.

Masks trap CO2 rich exhalations at the mask-mouth interface.
0 ups, 3y,
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Yet surgeons wear them all day.

Weird.
1 up, 3y,
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0 ups, 3y,
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BSL4? Different masks for different tasks.
3 ups, 3y
I don’t buy into the efficacy of masks in preventing getting or spreading the virus. In fact, I think wearing masks is detrimental to my health.

Therefore, I will not inhibit my breathing to appease anybody. If that bothers you or anyone else, too bad.

Since I do not share your feelings on the subject of masks, I won’t be having any empathy for you, or anybody else regarding mask wearing. None. Got it?

I honestly don’t care what you do. You are free to choose. You are free to decide for yourself. You are free to wear a mask. — However, you are NOT free to make demands that other free adults choose to live exactly as you.

Do even care about American values such personal freedom and individual liberty? Don’t those mean anything to you? Do you even care?

Will you just not be satisfied unless EVERYBODY is in lock-step with you?
3 ups, 3y,
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Exactly. The paper and cloth masks are not suited for the task of virus protection.
0 ups, 3y
They help, like toilet paper and tissues help. Sometimes a little might get missed. But overall they help.
2 ups, 3y,
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“They help, like toilet paper and tissues help”

If you really believe masks will protect you, and wearing them is not harmful in any way, mask up. Nobody is stopping you.

I’ll pass.
0 ups, 3y
Wearing them is an act of empathy. For others really. They help more to reduce transmission outward and not as much inward. But if we all wore them the effects would be very helpful.
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