Chuck Schumer's Law Enforcement Logic

Yes, makes sense absolutely... and let's not forget disarming law-abiding citizens while we're at it- that will also be helpful...👍 Noice

Based.

Why can't the Democrats see that? Why don't they understand just how damaging their politicians are to a civilized society. They had to commit massive voter fraud to put an absolute idiot in the White House, the want to let the most dangerous Americans out of prison, they want to open our southern border wide open and let them bring all of their diseases, including COVID-19, and then we want to force Americans to wear a stupid mask and shut down their business.

Why do they hate America so bad? If this country is so awful that they would shred it to pieces like this they could just leave. Go find another country that makes them happy.

Seriously! If this country is so racist that they cannot stand it anymore then LEAVE!!!! Go find a non-racist country to live in.

They do it for power...

Do what for power? How would getting rid of "cops" help them keep their power?

1. The only reason politicians have any "power" is because of jackboots that call themselves "law enforcement" lol

2. There is nothing funnier to us than people who call themselves patriots while ignoring such fundamental realities

3. Any real "patriot" who actually believes in "freedom and liberty" would not support American "law enforcment" as it currently exists.

Lastly DC Politicians are not the ones "releasing" anyone. That again would be "law enforcment" that does so.

Police, Judges, Prosecutors, Prison Personal and so on.

It's pretty sad that you people think anyone arrested in just "guilty" and you no longer have any regard for "innocent until proven guilty"

Well except for anyone you like. They are all innocent as the driven snow lol

"Do what for power? How would getting rid of "cops" help them keep their power?"

Because the goal is to eliminate state and local police and federalize all police officers, ya know, like the gestapo.

1. That makes absolutely no since at all. We do not have any "jackboots" in America.... yet. We have state and local police. They do not keep politicians in power. Politicians keep themselves in power. Their idiot minions keep reelecting them election after election with little or no concern if their politician is corrupt or not.

2. I'm glad we make you laugh. It is good to laugh. Just like laugh when you say we are ignoring fundamental realities. Please fabricate more nonsense about "jackboots".

3. Here's the thing. The one thing that Democrats crave are new laws and enhancing existing laws. They push for them day in and day out. And then they turn right around and complain about the cops. Make up your mind will ya! You either want to control every facet of our lives or you don't. If you don't then get rid of the cops. If you do then hire more cops. It is just that simple.

Lastly I never said DC politicians were releasing anyone. They want to. But the only ones who have the power to overturn a conviction is the president, judges and governors.

Where on earth did you get the idea that we think a person who is arrested is guilty. It was "us people" who defied English law and said the state must prove the guilt of a person rather than the person having to prove their innocents. "Your people" just wants to make slaves of us all.

Your whole tirade was all about trying to make me into your straw man. You failed miserably. I think for myself and I have my own opinions. I don't blindly follow any political party. I left the Republican party several years ago because they are nothing more than Democrat wanna-bes. There are a handful of decent Republicans but the party is mostly liberal.

If you want to know that I think, ask me. Don't make assumptions about me. I am NOT the man you portrayed me as.

They DO do it for power. The Democrats are the ones wanting to refund police departments. Why? Because all the "social justice" nut jobs will vote for them, thus they hold on to power longer. In regards to #3, I agree! We should stop politically correct policing and actually send police to the neighborhoods where the most crime is. On regards to the point about DC politicians, actually you are right. It's D.C. AND state politicians signing EOs and justifying them with "COVID!" We (I assume you are referring to patriotic Americans) actually hold that idea in very high regard. However, we can tell a genuine court case from a witch hunt. About the"jackboots" you say are in law enforcement, I also agree! There are "jackboots" in EVERY profession. However the VAST MAJORITY of cops are good people who want to help others and make the world a better place. Also it's spelled "personnel"

Defund, not refund. My spell check did that.

1. No one is defunding police. Budget cuts are not the same as "defunding" There is shit cops do not need. Police Departments do not need f**king MRAPS and other heavy military hardware.

Let me know when a bank robber or a hostage taker has laid landmines and has RPG's in America

2. Both Democrats and Republicans want "POWER" so you can shove that whole "POWER GRAB" bs

And both parties abuse their "power" And Trump was like a kid in a candy store and that is a fact.

Any "real patriot" would admit that Trump committed treason when he defended Russia and Putin against American Intelligence. Our proof he did it is in the text of The Constitution.

3. Covid was not what caused the police state we live in. Local, State and the Federal Police have been violating the law and constitution since the Constitution was created.

Lastly. Wrong there can not be a "good cop" as long as unjust, and unconstitutional "laws" exist. case closed

You and every one like you pretend we are "free" It helps you sleep at night.

You are right on everything but Trump. If you'll look at the actual full video clips of Trump, and look at what he signed as Executive orders and laws you'll have an entirely different view of him than the media tried to portray.

You are a very typical leftist. Can't engage in civilized debate. Presents opinion as fact. However I will try to debate you nonetheless. Yes, actually, police departments ARE being defunded (https://www.secureamericanow.org/cities_defunding_police). In regards to your second point, why shouldn't they? Police have rescue units as well. While you are correct in saying that it is very unlikely that a criminal would lay mines, those types of vehicles are useful in other ways, for instance getting over rough terrain. And although it is highly unlikely, it is still POSSIBLE a criminal would lay mines or other traps. In regards to your power comment, I agree, politicians of both parties are power hungry. However more Democrats than Republicans act power hungry. Your comment on Trump is not a fact, but an opinion. The Russia "collusion" was one of those many witch hunts I mentioned earlier. We do not by a long shot live in a police state. If you don't believe me, look up Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, the Soviet Union, Ba'athist Iraq, Ba'athist Syria, Libya, Communist China, or North Korea. Yes I'm sure police over the years have violated laws, but still the vast majority do not, and the ones that do are brought to court. Your last point does not make sense. How can a police officer not be a good person because of an "unjust law"? And what unjust laws are you referring to? No, we do not "pretend" like we are free- we ARE free. Because of the Constitution, and the brave men and women in law enforcement and in the armed forces.

Blah Blah Blah whatever you need to tell yourself so you can sleep at night

Mmm-hmmm...
Same to you, buddy.

Still no proof on that voter fraud.

Are you afraid that you'll find that your fake president was illegally put in office? There's tons of evidence. You just don't want to believe it because you hate Trump so much.

If he is fake, then Trump can’t run in 2024.

Are you afraid to admit that?

If that “tons of evidence” had any real merit, that Republican-elected majority Supreme Court would’ve done something by now.

Not to mention that constitutionalist Republicans basically said, yeah no, to those claims.

Biden is the President. Get over it.

How would a stolen election in 2020 prevent Trump from being able to run in 2024. I don't care if he does or does not. I hope that someone who is a strict Constitutionalist to run for president and wins but that isn't going to happen. If we ever have anyone other than a Democrat elected in the future it will be because the left finally pulled their heads out and somehow find some integrity, then we can put an end to these selections and go back to elections. But that isn't going to happen either.

In order for any one in the Supreme Court to do anything is there first must be cases in the lower courts that have gone up the chain until it gets to the Supreme Court. That hasn't happened because the lower courts never moved on those cases. They threw many out without even lifting a finger to find out of the cases had merit. Plus when those cases came before the lower courts there wasn't much evidence. Since then there has been tons of proof. I just has never had it's day in court. Nor will it because there is just too much money preventing that from happening.

Those weren't Constitutionalist Republicans. You can count Constitutionalist Republicans in the Senate on one hand. In the House it might take 2 hands. The rest are virtual Democrats. They used to be called RINOs but because there are so many of them they have redefined the Republican party. The Republican party stopped being conservative a couple of decades ago and stopped being Constitutionalist since Reagan and Reagan was the only stand out Constitutionalist Republican since probably Calvin Coolidge.

Biden is a nightmare, you need to step back and see that for yourself. Stop think like a brainwashed Marxist and start thinking how to preserve freedom. Nothing the Democrats are doing is for freedom. They are freedom's biggest enemy.

“How would a stolen election in 2020 prevent Trump from being able to run in 2024. “

Because he already ran and was “elected” twice and therefor cannot be elected a third time. Essentially, by Trump and his gullible followers failing to acknowledge he lost, then constitutionally speaking, he is no longer a viable candidate whether he served or not.

Meaning, he would have to declare the 2020 election fair to run again. Not that it makes sense for him to do so if it really is “rigged” with enough “fraudulent votes” to make a difference.

“ If we ever have anyone other than a Democrat elected in the future it will be because the left finally pulled their heads out and somehow find some integrity, then we can put an end to these selections and go back to elections. But that isn't going to happen either.”

It’s happened before. It’s happened many times. Not sure why you think it won’t ever happen again.

“ In order for any one in the Supreme Court to do anything is there first must be cases in the lower courts that have gone up the chain until it gets to the Supreme Court. ”

No shit.

“That hasn't happened because the lower courts never moved on those cases. They threw many out without even lifting a finger to find out of the cases had merit.”

Because the evidence was either anecdotal or unsubstantiated.

“I[t] just has never had it's day in court. ”

It did, just because you didn’t like the outcome doesn’t mean it didn’t have it’s day in court.

Say what you will about Mike Pence, he is a constitutionalist Republican. Just because someone browns their nose in Trump’s feces doesn’t make them a constitutionalists. The Republicans who admitted, even under protest, that Joe Biden was the 46th President doesn’t make them any less constitutionalists or RINOs because you, again, did not like the outcome. Allowing Trump’s unfounded claims to suspend the constitutional procedures would’ve been a direct violation of the constitution. The claims of massive voter fraud were investigated and no court found any merit to those claims enough to even make a ruling. At best, that blame isn’t on the courts or judges but the representatives representing Trump’s claims.

I’m a Republican, my dude. And I’ve been one longer than you have. Just because you might’ve walked away from the Democratic Party or are otherwise disgruntled with our elections or our government in general is no reason to elect a wanna-be dictator to office.

"Because he already ran and was “elected” twice and therefor cannot be elected a third time. Essentially, by Trump and his gullible followers failing to acknowledge he lost, then constitutionally speaking, he is no longer a viable candidate whether he served or not."

Now I can't wait for 2024 if Trump decides to run again. I want to see the Democrat party make that case. I would love to see that happen even if it meant Trump truly could not run in 2024.

"'In order for any one in the Supreme Court to do anything is there first must be cases in the lower courts that have gone up the chain until it gets to the Supreme Court.'

No shit."

You asked the question. I'm just answering it.

"Because the evidence was either anecdotal or unsubstantiated."

No that is not true. There was lots of facts even back then but Guiliani seemed to want to make Trump lose. He ran an awful case for voter fraud. Perhaps your international goons got to him and threatened his family.

Since the election a ton of new facts have surfaced that will most likely never see its day in court because there is no big money behind it.

BTW are you happy to have this idiot that we have now in the White House? Does it fill you with joy every time he stumbles over his words and acts like he doesn't know where he is? Or how about him leaving 15,000 Americans and billions in military hardware behind for the Taliban to do what ever that want to do. Are you proud to send a senile old man who never had a firm grip on reality long before he went senile, out to represent America?

"Say what you will about Mike Pence, he is a constitutionalist Republican."

He was more Constitutional than Trump was but he was still an establishment guy. However, what Trump asked him to do at the end was wrong. Pence was right. Pence didn't betray Trump he just did what was right.

"I’m a Republican, my dude. And I’ve been one longer than you have. Just because you might’ve walked away from the Democratic Party"

Wait a second. Don't you have that backwards? I am not the Democrat here. I joined the Constitution Party because the Republicans are trying to be Democrats. If you are a Republican then you are one of the ones who are trying to be a Democrat.

Most teenagers and twenty somethings are third party. More power to you.

My values stem as mostly conservative but that doesn’t mean I write off someone based solely on their political views. That said, I’m not too keen on authoritarianism (of any kind), anarchism, and theocratic institutions. I would prefer churches remain tax free, but if they’re going to intermingle in politics, then I cannot defend the argument of their need of taxation. If you wish to know why I’m not too keen on a theocracy, look no further than the Middle East, particularly the Taliban.

I’m not overly fond of Biden, and I’m hoping the Republicans can put someone forward to challenge him. I honestly think tbe Republicans have a good chance of retaking the Oval Office.

Unless they put Trump forward again.

I hope this helps clarify my political views for you.

Not that it really matters to the argument at hand.

"Most teenagers and twenty somethings are third party. More power to you."

I was a 50 something when I left the Republican party. I'm in my 60's now. When I was a teenager I was a political idiot. The first presidential election that I was able to vote in was when Jimmy Carter won. I had no clue what it meant to be Democrat or Republican back then. I voted for Carter for only one reason. He was from Georgia and I was born in Georgia (but raised in So. Cal.). I repented of that bad decision by voting for Reagan both times after that.

"My values stem as mostly conservative but that doesn’t mean I write off someone based solely on their political views."

So I misjudged you. That is very easy to do because there are a lot of leftists on ImgFlip who routinely attack everyone on the right.

"That said, I’m not too keen on authoritarianism (of any kind), anarchism, and theocratic institutions."

Me too. The only theocratic institution that any one needs worry about is Islam. Remember, our founding fathers were devout Christians. They framed this nation using the Bible as one of their guides. If they wanted to turn us into a theocracy then we would have been one. The very idea of freedom came from the Bible. Freedom was bring preached in the pulpit all across this nation.

"I would prefer churches remain tax free"

The 1st amendment prevents Congress from making any law, including taxation, against any religion.

"but if they’re going to intermingle in politics, then I cannot defend the argument of their need of taxation."

Christianity has involved itself in our government since the beginning. When Jefferson was president he required freshmen congressmen to read the Jefferson Bible, a book of selected verses or chapters from the KJV of the New Testament. Jefferson organized Christian church services in the halls of congress for congressmen who could not make it home to attend their own church. Christianity used to be a part of public school education.

But here is the thing, there is no Christian religion. There are many and none of them are factions of one overall Christian church. Promoting Christianity does not create a state religion, it promotes the morals of Christianity. The morals this nation was built on. The same morals that socialism vehemently opposes and that is why they started this anti-Christian and anti-Judaism movement in this country. For some reason socialists like Islam. I guess evil likes evil.

Cool.

One clarification on my stance on churches and religion in politics.

I have no quarrel with morals (religious or otherwise) dictating politics.

I have a problem with churches directly funding politicians and or telling their constitutions with whom to vote.

That is a slippery slope.

I have a problem with anyone telling anyone who our how to vote.

I am a Christian and the religion I belong has a firm policy of not endorsing any candidate or political party. They only get involved when it is a moral issue.

We even had a member of the church run for president as a Republican in 2012 and the church still did not endorse him or even try to hint that we should vote for him.

However, I would never tell any other church how they should conduct their religious services. If they endorse a party or candidate the followers of that church always have the option of going to another church if they disagree or even if they just don't like that their minister is promoting one candidate or party over another.

I don't really have a problem with a church donating money to a candidate as long as all of the members of that church agree with their church's decision.

After all it always comes down to the individual. Either it is one individual donating or a group of individuals pooling their money and donating. It doesn't matter is that group is a church, a PAC, a corporation or any other type of group. As long as everyone is in agreement with where their money is going then I am okay with that.

Also, I don’t know about you, but antagonizing the left seems to only make them do the opposite of pulling their heads out of their ass.

Because you're terrified of your own imagination.

... literally imagined by you.

Do you ever get tired of lying?

I could ask you the same thing.