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9 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Thanks defund the police.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Because the police were actually defunded.
6 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Many were. NYC defunded but 25 million as well as many other cities
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
No, they weren't. That's just blatantly false.
7 ups, 3y,
2 replies
So you’re saying they did not have funds removed from Law enforcement. I say you are a liar then.

“In the fiscal year 2021 budget the mayor signed Wednesday morning, the NYPD has been allocated $5.22 billion. That’s a 6.8% reduction from the year before, or $382 million less.“
3 ups, 3y,
3 replies
I assume you have a source for that since you used quotes. Please provide.

If it’s factual, I won’t delete, but I will point out why it’s nonetheless wrong.

Problem with your line of thinking, regardless, as Modda points out, is that NYC like many other cities is undergoing MAJOR budgetary issues as a result of a frightening collapse of their tax base owing to Covid’s economic impact.

There’s no reason to think police should be spared when other departments are having to do with less, too. That’s not “Defund the Police,” necessarily. Singling that fact out without providing the context is demagoguery.
4 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Too bad they let blatant leftists be moderators in the politics stream. You do you, I will make statements and you can fact check and delete like you yearn to do because you can’t stand the truth or argument that refutes your leftist narrative.
1 up, 3y
Everyone is getting liberals to do their shit smh. Even Imgflip now.
1 up, 3y
If you have an argument that actually refutes any alleged “Leftist” narrative here, go for it.

I’m not protecting anyone’s ideology here. Your comments caught my attention for one reason only: you were framing another memer as an anti-Semite without evidence. You were also falsely claiming that person wished death on others.

You had terms-compliant commentary mixed in as well, but if you can’t refrain from grievously distorting others’ beliefs, then your whole comment has to go.

We don’t do that here.
1 up, 3y
https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2020/07/did-de-blasio-actually-defund-the-nypd/175832/

I just highlighted the sentence and right-clicked to select "Search Google for blah blah blah." It's a really interesting article that goes into some of the specifics of the 1000 recruits that have been cancelled and overtime issues.
3 ups, 3y,
2 replies
ooops, my bad, I had figured he was posting and deleting attacks he thought looked too (embarrassingly) aggressive, so I reposted them for all to see.

I've now deleted my copypastes.
6 ups, 3y
Why would I delete the truth
2 ups, 3y,
2 replies
To my knowledge, he doesn’t have that much self-awareness.
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Or of anything else, for that matter.
Whatever he can pretzelate into a facsimile of proof for his bogus narrative is all he needs.
0 ups, 3y
Sounds like he views any criticism of any Israeli military action at any point in time as the equivalent of hating all Jews anywhere forever and always.

Tried to point that out for him, but he just kept doubling down. So, those comments are gone.

Just as it would be asinine to accuse him of Islamophobia for criticizing Hamas, it’s reductive to claim criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. Especially given that many Jews *living in Israel* are frequent critics of the Israeli government on this.

Frank discussion is allowed, but we won’t allow nuanced discussion of such a complex topic to be boiled down into terms that only fuel the conflict.

(Also, all of this has nothing to do with the meme subject. He brought it up solely to ad hom and discredit you.)
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0 ups, 3y,
3 replies
1 up, 3y,
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*response to this*

Better: you’re at least providing something to talk about.

But you make the classic mistake of conflating criticism of Israel with criticism of Jews.

There are millions of Jews around the world who aren’t keen on the Israeli government, or even the concept of Zionism.

And there are even millions of Jews *within Israel* who are critics of their own government for all sorts of reasons. Because Israel is a democracy where sharp criticism and debate is allowed.

Part of the reason Netanyahu’s government was finally brought to an end several weeks ago, by an ideologically diverse coalition that is trying to chart a new path forward for Israel.

Time to retire the stale notion that criticizing Israel, a high-tech nuclear-armed modern state that makes controversial decisions, with anti-Semitism, which is an ancient trope aimed at Jews who can’t defend themselves.
1 up, 3y
The extended context (going back weeks prior) and subject of that quote was his expressed attitude towards Israel's attack on the USS Liberty and cover up afterwards as water under a bridge, or this case, over a ship, while their bombing of non-combatant Palestinians was justified because they're "terrorists" (as he typified them) who will attack American targets eventually one day in the future. probably.

Of course, in his myopic view, anti-Semitism against Semites who have remained in the Middle East continously since prehistory is fine as long as they are of faiths other than Judaism.
1 up, 3y
No. We’re not doing that anymore. We’re at the point of the discussion where you must provide examples to back up your wild assertions about what you’re claiming he believes, or you don’t get to make them anymore.

If you want to type a comment that consists solely of your complaints about me as a mod, go for it. I can simply point out that you don’t mod a single stream on Imgflip, and let others draw their own conclusions about how much weight to give your opinion.

But what I won’t allow you to do is slander participants on this forum as the equivalent of Nazis merely because they poked holes in your argument. I have an interest in ensuring this is a space where politics can be discussed in good faith. I have an obligation to protect them from such abuses.
1 up, 3y
I’m not a site mod, or you’d have been comment-timered for repeatedly framing someone as an anti-Semite without proof.

Are you aware this is PoliticsTOO? Forget where you were?
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
You could say what you want, shill, your propaganda don't mean crap.

That's not defunding police, that's the biggest city in the USA having to make cutbacks across the board due to not having enough money on account of some little shutdown thingy we had last year.
If it was defunding the NYPD, it would have SAID it was defunding the NYPD.

The garbage dept was slowing down with pickups and cleaning in crowded areas last year as a protest against cutbacks. Were they part of the defunding your imaginary Police too?
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
part of your imaginary defunding the Police too?
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0 ups, 3y,
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0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Ooooh, I’m impressed, not
2 ups, 3y
Thought I’d leave you a mod note here.

Your comments are being deleted because you’re not only throwing out personal attacks (which are okay when infrequent and low-level — political debate gets heated), but because you are framing and strawmanning your opponent’s beliefs without evidence. That is a big no-no. Weighty allegations like anti-Semitism or wanting to see others die must come with proof or they are slander.

You’re allowed to discuss “Defund the Police” if you keep it factual and civil.
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3 ups, 3y,
2 replies
According to FBI ‘mass shooting’ criteria, there were 20 mass shootings in the USA as of June 28.

Maybe you should use a less biased source.
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1 up, 3y
This guy is not even American. He’s a fry cook in Australia.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Maybe you should realise that 20 in 6 months is ludicrous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2021
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0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
0 ups, 3y
So now you're just making up accusations.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
I smell a Canadian
3 ups, 3y
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Sounds anti Semitic to me. I’m an American and proud of it, unlike you
1 up, 3y
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Chicago had 40 shootings last weekend in June 2021 in gun free city. Stabbings? Better take away sharp items! Burns? Stop running stoves. Electrocutions? Cut the power! And what about all those automobile deaths that you can prevent if we outlaw motor vehicles? You’ve got quite a list to make & alot of work ahead of you. Time’s a wasting & lives are lost every hour you delay!
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Deflection
1 up, 3y,
2 replies
Priorities & political leftist spin. And you can’t meme with a crap
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2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
But remember, John here knows more about America than us Americans do.[sarcasm]
1 up, 3y
I love hearing from the socialists who can’t leave their hell holes so they rip us up.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
You just described the Right.
2 ups, 3y
4 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Thanks Australian who knows nothing but what the leftist media tells them
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2 ups, 3y
Am Australian fry cook who doesn’t know shit about America.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Thanks American in denial.
(This is literally definite fact)
4 ups, 3y,
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Ya? Where did you get your, facts? Sounded exaggerated. Probably MSNBC. That’s Joe Bidens America free the criminals and handcuff the police. At least we haven’t gone total cuck like you have. Now be quiet and do what your masters in China tell you Crikey boy.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Literally anyone can look up the constantly updated list of America's mass shootings. It's not "tHe MaInStReAm MeDiA", it's what f**king law enforcement reports - you know, the people you claim to support.
And in going "tOtAl CuCk" we've almost completely eliminated mass shootings and lowered gun crime - in other words, SAVED LIVES!
3 ups, 3y,
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Triggered! What’s your source mine says it’s fewer. Have you gotten rid of alcohol? More people die every year from that. Save 6000 Aussies a year. Ban Alcohol and freedom! Sit in your stack and pack government housing like a good little cuck and you will reduce any risk even further.
1 up, 3y,
2 replies
Australia is actually freer and more democratic than the US.
4 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Hahahaah, you don’t know what freedom is. You beg to be enslaved by group think and globalism that relegates you to peasant status. Your idea of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep each with one vote on who gets eaten for dinner.
1 up, 3y
Gotten your release yet?
1 up, 3y
What Democracy you got? You don't even vote for your Prime Minister or whatever you have there whose name you probably don't even know because it's only just Australia.

Yeah, because 1970 was so a century ago and children aren't still being taken away from their families and adopted out to non Indigenous at a far greater rate than other people and access to adequate health care, schooling, housing, etc, is abysmal, but imprisonment is not, doubling in the last 2 decades.
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