My response to people saying that George Floyd's death was okay because he resisted arrest

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

This is about sentencing... not apprehension.

Did... did YOU read the amendment? Moreover, did you UNDERSTAND the amendment?

Do you wonder why people say ill-informed things when they THINK they know what they're talking about? I do... but people keep doing it anyway.

Where does it say it is only about sentencing? Any reasonable person would say that using a fake $20 is not a capital offence.

Read... more.

Here is the amendment: "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." The fifth amendment also says: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." That means that the killing broke two amendments.

Then they should charge the entity responsible for his death…

…I guess it’s too bad fentanyl is an inanimate object.

See? There you begin to have a point... citing the 5th amendment, one could make the argument that George Floyd was killed and, therefore, "deprived of life [...] without due process of law". Of course, one could equally argue that "A seizure or forcible restraint; an exercise of the power to deprive a person of his or her liberty; the taking or keeping of a person in custody by legal authority, especially, in response to a criminal charge." otherwise known as an "arrest" - that was the legal definition I quoted, by the way - is, in fact, due process of law. For one to be held to account for their actions, they often are literally held... in jail, awaiting trial unless they are bailed/bonded out (if applicable). Arrest is a part of the process of law.

George Floyd's death has absolutely nothing to do with the 8th amendment. Those that think it does, don't understand the Constitution, American law or the American legal system. But that's understandable... some lawyers and judges have difficulty too... that's why appeals courts exist as well as the SCOTUS.

I don't blame people for not knowing the nuances of law - there are a lot! - but I do blame people for speaking about things they know little-to-nothing about. You've learned something though. Think of how much more there is out there to know... and get started! Knowledge is power. When you convey information that is incorrect, incomplete or incompetently conveyed you make people weaker. Become powerful! In so doing, you have the ability to make those around you more powerful as well.

An arrest is a process of law and. It also has checks but unless the person poses a threat that only lethal force can contain there needs to be a trial before a death sentence is given. Seeing as he didn't pose a threat that only lethal force could contain he was deprived of life without due process.

This was all decided in a court of law... and I don't feel like debating the outcome. The salient facts of the matter are thus: the (former) officer had the authority to make an arrest; he was found guilty of screwing up his arrest; he is now going to jail because that's how our laws work when you break them.

No amount of massaging the terms or language will square your argument that what happened to George Floyd was in violation of the 8th amendment... mainly because you're refusing to understand what that amendment is addressing. Which is a pity because there is a ton written about it and even some SCOTUS decisions that involve it.

Think whatever you'd like about the (former) officer and the case and our legal system. Your meme is still incorrect. Objectively. Wrong.

What we don't know is whether Floyd was ignorant of the fake $20 or was part of a counterfeit ring. If I were full bat shit conspiracy theory crazy I'd say Floyd ticked someone off by taking that fake $20 and passed it around and since Chauvin wasn't exactly cop of the year, it would explain why Floyd got offed so fast over a measly phony $20.