Hahaha it bad when trump suggests it but logical now

"Deranged" hardly covers Cult 45.

Lefitst own their Trump Derangement Syndrome

*hugs*

4+ years of this nonstop 24/7, screamed at the top of leftist lungs . . . yeah, the left owns their Trump Derangement Syndrome

*hugs*

Enjoy it while it lasts. We'll see who the snowflake is soon.

So many possibilities . . .who knows which he'll choose

Yes, kid, Diaper Donny Commie will choose to be Speaker of the House.

I don't recall the originated from a lab being labeled as a conspiracy theory on its own.

Trump said "We have evidence..." and nothing. So for me personally, I wouldn't say it was derided as a conspiracy theory so much as it was viewed as not proven/not from a reputable source.

It was just so often bunched with crazier stuff that Trump and company glommed onto. He threw a lot of noodles at the wall and while this one might have stuck, most others didn't.

I know of several virologists who regard it as a conspiracy theory. Coronavirus doesn't act like an artificial virus or even in a way that we WOULD design an artificial virus to act if we could. There's just no reason to suspect it and the punchline is that this isn't the first time a coronavirus has transitioned from animals to humans - it's just the one that got the attention because it was the highly infectious one.

What I've seen is more along the lines of the virus was being studied there and was released from the lab. Not that it was designed or is malicious. I think the issue is that was the implication of the lab source theory. As far as modified or natural...I'm actually not sure you can actually be sure of that.

Even if its confirmed that it came from the lab, it really doesn't mean much. Maybe we cut funding to that lab, push for better controls in the future, etc.

But it wasn't intentional and there isn't going to be a smoking gun. Even if somehow I'm wrong on that - its China and there won't be any evidence of it.

Mmmmmm.... again, I know several virologists who can be, and I believe them. They've literally done their homework on this.

But let's face it, there were always going to be people who claim it's artificial. That's just the times we live in. There are people who insist that the seasonal flu is bioengineered, and once people accept that THAT'S a valid opinion to hold, the rest becomes fair game in comparison.

Well people can have their own opinions and that doesn't change facts.

What I meant was "the Wuhan theory" isn't one theory - it was released from the lab; it was engineered in the lab to study; it was engineered as a weapon to specifically target Trump's supporters (older people were his best demographic).

Engineered itself can mean multiple things - it wasn't built from scratch - first of, we just aren't there yet. So, instead does it mean they intentionally modified it. If they were modifying it to include features of a natural virus or crossing it with something else, that might not be as obvious...

Maybe they just engineered the conditions to encourage it to mutate. So, not engineered in that case, but 'created in a lab'. I'm no expert so maybe there are ways to spot those sorts of modifications, but I would doubt you would ever know 100% unless we find some pretty compelling evidence.

I can't prove that one side is right and one side is wrong...but the loudest voices on the right at the moment can't form a coherent narrative to save their life. The only consistent message is that you can't listen to anyone who tells you they are wrong. But we are the sheep. Makes sense. /s

If I were a more religious person I'd say Trump was sent as a test for the faithful. The ongoing depths they've gone to and sacrifices to their false idol are fairly entertaining from the outside. You know, if you ignore all the real world bullshit and what its done to us.

A more complete NONSENSE FAIRY TALE MADE UP BS comment I cannot imagine.. Trump is and was the single best most accomplished and amazing American REAL LEADER of your fantasy lifetime. He also won before the plandemic RATS cheated.. I love and miss Trump's America. Now we live in the Unguided State of Plandemica~a!
Scum Nation Under Fraud.
U proud huh?
We need a civil f**king war and I hope it's in MY lifetime

Opinions vary on his accomplishments.

Plandemic - He appointed the head of the CDC. Fauci worked for him. Republicans controlled the senate. He controlled the military and had Bill Barr over the justice department. More than half the states have Republican governors. If you are arguing for Trump being accomplished and also allowing for a 'plandemic' while occupying the most powerful office in the land and having those resources... sure. Makes sense. /s

Cheated - he had plenty of time and resources to prove that. It didn't happen and the states certified their votes. The AZ audit isn't going to find anything substantial either.

Unemployment continues to drop, COVID guidance is recommended by the CDC and adopted (or not) by the states - same as it was under Trump.

Proud - yes. yes I am.

Civil War - Can't win the election, time for an insurrection.

even if it was made in a wuhan lab, would they have did it on purpose?

China? Uh, yeah ... They would.

gimme PROOF

Proof of what? I didn't say they actually did it. I said they would do it if they thought they could get away with it. I'm also not ruling out that they did it now. The proof will either show they are guilty or not.

China is a Communist regime that violates many basic human rights and murders their own people. I have no doubt they would do something like purposely spread a virus around the globe.

Someone like you thinks they 'haven't did it'.

Which one? Y'all had like a dozen and most of them were about how it was a bioweapon developed by Fauci & Obama to discredit Trump.

You don't get credit for having a dozen crazy ideas and not even a portion of one having been proven to be anywhere near true.

You mean like you guys with the Mueller investigation, Kavanaugh, impeachment 1, Barrett, Impeachment 2...

You clearly have not read the Mueller Report, otherwise you wouldn't say it was a conspiracy theory.

Who paid off Kavanaugh's credit cards? And why didn't the FBI actually investigate him?
Barret exists. She is not a conspiracy theory.
The first impeachment was not a conspiracy. It actually happened.

And the excuses for your conspiracies begin. 😂

Ight, let’s do a scorecard then

Trump was:
—*Potentially* right about the Wuhan lab origin (complex subject but tl;dr it’s still just a theory, lol, y’all are jumping the gun)

And wrong about:
—Covid being “their new hoax”
—15 cases would go down to zero
—The China travel ban would work
—Warm weather was going to kill it off
—Everything would be back to normal by Easter
—HXQ
—Sunlight & internal disinfectant therapy (note I didn’t compress that to “bleach,” not that it matters)
—Wrong to turn face masks into a punchline on so many occasions, even though he did (grudgingly) start wearing one (sometimes) well into the pandemic
—Wrong to tweet about “liberating” various states (all purple states with Democratic governors), undermining local authorities’ judgments about what was best for their residents
—Wrong to backstab his own health officials on innumerable occasions in so many ways
—Wrong to promise to “fire Fauci” if he won the election
—Wrong to continue promising a vaccine just around the corner last fall when that aggressive timeline gave people false hope, obviously playing for more votes just before the election
—Wrong to tout his own personal recovery from Covid (with dozens of doctors at his bedside & the best healthcare in the world) as proof that the disease was no big deal
—Holding umpteen mask-optional (and in practical terms, maskless) rallies and campaign events
—Severely bungling the vaccine rollout during his lame-duck period when he preferred to focus his energies on trying to overturn the election, and when he wasn’t doing that, golfing: logistical delays that cost tens of thousands more lives
—Let’s throw Jan. 6 in there too: why not? It’s beyond doubt that rioters and even congresspeople caught Covid in this insane bedlam

So, yeah, you can have the Wuhan lab thing

And we'll give you the "Donald Trump cheated on his wife thing.

I gave you a cutting-edge, speculative theory; you gave me a fact that’s been public for decades

And this is why negotiations on Capitol Hill tend to break down

Uh yeah, that was my point. Nothing gets past you.

That righties will acknowledge only the most brain-dead facts about Trump? Yes, we knew

Here are some more

I'm guessing you're not too stupid, so I'm sure you know it isn't required to show your taxes to anyone. The fact other Presidents do this doesn't mean Trump had to.

Also, the popular vote isn't required to get elected. He was elected BY THE PEOPLE, by our electoral college (which is how we elect our President). I recall you leftists had your own little conspiracy theory that he would have to be forcefully removed from the building, kicking and screaming. How did that turn out?

Most of what you copied and posted are just nit-picking grievances by someone who hates Trump (someone with TDS, as they say).

I have my issues with Trump on several issues, but I'm not obsessed as you people seem to be.

A legal duty to release tax returns isn’t the point. The point is a tradition of transparency to the American people that has existed for the last half-century. The last 4 years have revealed that the President of the United States is effectively above the law and unaccountable if he wants to be. The Constitution lacks in ways of holding the President accountable, other than impeachment, which is dead in the water because the Framers set the bar too high. As such, the moral character and self-restraint of the person who occupies that ultimate position of public trust is more important than anything.

Jan. 6 was the equivalent of being dragged kicking and screaming from the White House — because people actually died. No one that I know of predicted a MAGA riot that resulted in the first breach of the U.S. Capitol since the War of 1812. It wasn’t a successful coup, but that isn’t the point. The point is that it disrupted a tradition of peaceful transfer of power in our democracy that has existed since the Civil War. He didn’t actually leave the White House kicking and screaming to save himself the embarrassment (nothing would irk him more than to be led away in handcuffs). He did boycott Biden’s inauguration which hasn’t happened in over a century. Liberals who predicted Trump would never concede defeat (myself included) were correct — he still hasn’t and there’s no reason to think he ever will. In the end, Trump left on his own terms and broke nearly everything on his way out.

"No one that I know of predicted a MAGA riot that resulted in the first breach of the U.S. Capitol since the War of 1812"

A maga riot? Hardly.

Do you dispute the “MAGA” part or the “riot” part?

I think these pictures are pretty conclusive on both points, but let me know if you’d like to see more