Show this photo to a libtard - watch them lose their minds!! #MAGA #BlackLivesMatter #WhiteLivesMatter #AllLivesMatter #GetRekt

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so true!!!

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That's a cool photo. Very nice to see.

Dude's got a cool car as well. I wanted a Charger for years, though I kinda turned traitor and went for a WRX instead...

Sorry, I don't see the issue. Every human life matters. Skin color is irrelevant. If people want to specifically point out that black people's lives matter that's absolutely fine, because it's absolutely true, but why is it an issue if people want to do the same for white people? What intrinsically makes one more or less valuable than the other and therefore makes such an observation as his shirt problematic?

I like that he has the balls to wear it.

black lives matter is going to be a bigger topic than white lives matter right now, cuz of the recent acts of racism towards black people going around the country. i do believe its true that all live matter, and i support that, but for now we should wear the black lives matter just to stop racism as a concept, rather than make people fell that black lives are more valuable

(plus its just absolutely barbaric to be racist. and black people are the ones being targeted by racists right now, so it makes more sense to parade in their honor for now.)

Right, but my point is that I can't wear a BLM shirt now because they've hyper-politicized and radicalized the movement in the eyes of millions of people. The message is meaningless now in the BLM context.

That's what bothers me.

i can see that

There is nothing wrong with saying “White Lives Matter,” other than the fact it’s a white supremacist slogan

Just like there’s nothing inherently wrong with the swastika, which was traditionally a symbol of divinity

Until

So...the black man is a white supremacist?

Not saying he’s a white supremacist, but —

I am saying he was hustled, scammed, bamboozled, hoodwinked, and quite possibly, led astray

Orrrrrr, he's just making the point that you can truthfully say any lives led by people of any particular skin color matter.

White supremacists be damned. We don't need to let them ruin any slogan. Just because some hateful people accuse my Catholic faith of [insert alleged atrocity of the month here] doesn't mean I feel the need to stop living it.

Tell ya what - I don't know where Imgflippers reside, but it seems many of them are deep in the rural backwoods or in the lily-white suburban exurbs - maybe "white lives matter" flies out there, but if you're brave, do a little social experiment in any urban district in America:

Wear an "All Lives Matter" shirt and see if you don't get yourself funny looks, at best - wear a "White Lives Matter" shirt and get yourself promptly ejected from any self-respecting establishment before you inadvertently cause a verbal altercation or actual fisticuffs.

Why?

Most of us in Blue America realize that both these slogans are obviously patterned on BLM (which came first) and are each in their own way attempts to hijack the movement for racial progress and equity that #BlackLivesMatter embodies -- a slogan which, unlike the other two we're discussing, is backed by a tangible movement for advancing the rights of real people that aims to effect, and is actually effecting, positive changes in our world. (See: meme)

Most of us who live in urban America, if we're not actually black ourselves, have black friends (a cliche, yes, but it's one thing that matters) and live and work in close enough proximity to black people to understand their struggle for equity and why a slogan as basic as #BlackLivesMatter is sadly necessary.

tl;dr It's not enough to evaluate the slogans on their own terms. We need context, folks, context

My whole street has household owners who are mexican

What about all the black people who are against BLM and say BLM is really messing things up? Would you say they are racists? Hustled? Ignorant?

According to recent polling, BLM enjoys 75% support among black Americans. Put another way, that means there are 3 black BLM supporters to every 1 black American who’s a skeptic. A pretty substantial gap.

I wouldn’t say they’re racist or hustled, I’d just say they’re probably naive. Maybe they’ve simply been fortunate enough to not experience racism, or much of it.

But it is on another level of cringe to throw on a t-shirt bearing a white supremacist slogan, even to take a cute seemingly innocuous photo with your family.

Heck, I’m white and even I know that

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Haha, no. I don't think wearing a white lives matter shirt would be good for my health. We've got a lot of off-the-rails rednecks here in Montana, but like you said; there'd be no context to such an image and I absolutely know I'd be perceived in the wrong way because the entire 'lives matter' slogan has been politicized beyond use at this point.

(My Blue Lives Matter hat gets a lot of support from a lot of different folks 'round here, but that's because our police are properly run and don't incur the ire of the people, even in our most liberal bastion of Missoula. I live in Helena, which is pretty blue politically, and the HPD gets support from just about everyone. As you said, context matters. I'd not go wearing this hat in my birth city of Minneapolis because I know I'd wind up as a red smear on a sidewalk because the context would be entirely different.)

Brings me to my last point; this image features the two competing slogans (Black Lives Matter/All Lives Matter) and a White Lives Matter shirt...to me, the context of the image is that a diverse family is trying to point out that all of these slogans shouldn't be politicized and instead taken for their own value...you noted then that a swastika has its own meaning, which I accept as a counterpoint, but would rebut it by noting that NOTHING approaching the horror of the Nazis has arisen under an organization/slogan called White Lives Matter and therefore reject the idea that the two are comparable in terms of gravitas.

Point of all this is that I find it distasteful at best that you're here trying to invalidate this man's purpose, which is clearly to show that every individual racial group matters equally, and in no way evinces any hatred for blacks or even ignorance on his part. Heck, if he knows that White Lives Matter is considered hateful by some then I'd doubly applaud his courage in shooting this photo, because we need to depoliticize phrases like this...it shouldn't be controversial to acknowledge that any individual racial group has value. The only way to do that is by showing that they can be used in positive and uplifting ways. And I won't deny that this is probably a little idealistic and that there will be plenty of people on the right and left who want to keep them charged for their own purposes; I've always been a 'glass half full' kind of guy though.

This got way longer than I intended...

Can I just say that reply is beautiful — gives me a real sense of what kinds of things inform a Montanan’s worldview that wouldn’t be present to me living in “Blue America” (essentially, any urban district, due to hyperpoliticization along population density lines).

We are both clearly intelligent people judging by the length and detail of our replies. We look at the word around ourselves with clear eyes.

And yet we disagree because we are in a sense destined to disagree based upon our differing social contexts. When a person looks at the world around them and sees skyscrapers, she is destined to view the world differently than a person who looks around them and sees fields. No amount of persuasion is availing because the political concerns of one environment simply do not compute in the environment of the other.

This insight is both strangely depressing and a source of relief.

I deleted my old responses and summed it up with, "Yes."

Though I feel we've got enough information at our digital fingertips to make informed commentary about communities outside our own, at least in general terms.

And politicizing it was the point to marginalize what they were protesting.

That's just asinine though. It shouldn't be political to say, "white lives matter.". White lives do matter. Black lives matter. Native American lives matter. Asian lives matter. This is just a basic truth, because all lives are equally unique and important. If someone is using such a phrase as a cover for racism or other hatred, then don't treat the phrase like some leper; just laugh at the idiot and ignore them.

Simple idiots require simple solutions. The rest of us normal folk can go on living life as we will, agreeing that everyone (all lives) is equally unique (-insert race- lives matter) and therefore we can focus our energy on political issues that actually matter.

Instead we're bogged down in a ludicrous discussion about race that should have been resolved in 1864, not still living as a point of contention in 2021.

Hahahaha, so saying Black Lives Matter is a black supremacist saying?

So the black guy wearing that shirt makes him a white supremacist?

The nazi swastika is a reversed Buddhist symbol, I think.

Ugh. Sometimes I think you’ve changed Kyliefan... until I see this crap pop up.

He’s perpetrating a fraud. He’s a leftist woke joke. He playing a game.

Cause I know him.

I have changed -- can't you see this hat??

Whoring isn't change.

We've all done it, but proofreading will save much embarassment.

Happens to the best!!

But no one can stop our ideas!

Something you never understand. I undermined your whole plan with politicsTOO mods playing in part. Why are you conservative all of a sudden? To troll?

Yup 👍

I am not conservative, I am an INDEPENDENT MODERATE.

I respect ALL VIEWPOINTS and I see ALL SIDES of every issue

So: why would I say #MAGA? Because it is, in fact, important to Make America Great Again

Why would I say #AllLivesMatter? Because all lives do, in fact, matter

Ditto #BlackLivesMatter

Ditto #WhiteLivesMatter

Indeed, ALL lives matter — and that is why we wear masks during pandemics, get vaccinated, reform the police, protect the environment, and end other abuses at home and worldwide

It is not my goal to troll but rather to SMASH PRECONCEPTIONS and UNIFY AMERICA under one guiding principle

And that principle is:

Knowledge is power

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LOL WHAT A LIAR

What’d I lie about

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I’ve been out here hustlin’, tryin’ to make that front page

It’s hard out here with all these great memes sometimes!

Thanks for helping make it happen, I won’t forget this, I got u for life fam

Congrats sorry i hurt your feelings

The PoliticsTOO invasion of politics continues!

See ya next time

Context matters. In context most people who say All Lives Matter say it in an attempt to make BLM sound racist or selfish. It usually ends up backfiring.

Saying WLM or ALM in response to someone with a specific situation they are trying to address is like showing up at someone else funeral to say a few words about your Dad, who hasn't died yet or your grandpa who died a few months ago.

If you have a protest about a white person killed by police and BLM shows up to counter protest you, then yes, that would be racist on their part as well.

These are decent points of clarification!

Always good when one of the reasonable libtrads stops by 👍

I do what I can.