If getting shot!

I feel bad about a child not seeing his mother ever again in the first panel! I give 0 Fs for the mother of the person in the bottom panel! Same race, one was a HERO! One was a ZERO! Did I want the ZERO to die? No! But he would not have died if he complied! Simple FACT!!!

I agree, just don’t nuke me

OK since you agreed! No nuke for you! Just remember me at my crater hang out! LOL

(This is a joke)

LOL! Love it! Truth though!

if he resists arrest that doesn't give a right to shoot them

Yes he can kill them! if there is any reasonable doubt his life is in danger! Therefore do not resist! Simple!!! I Actually testified in court for my friend. I was not there when it happened but he killed a unarmed man in his underwear with a gun! What did my friend get? Nothing!!!!! He was in fear of his life!!!!! I testified to the facts in a prior incident! I felt sorry for the mans family as they walked out the court knowing that their dead son was an idiot. He was white so not in news much. If black still would have been an idiot! Race knows no boundaries on idiots. Comply do not die!

The problem with this is, people will say their life is in danger as an excuse to be racist and kill someone

Kinda hard to claim that if the guy is just walking away.

George Floyd didn't have Nuthin but a fake 20 dollar bill and got killed by a copper

He resisted and that got his dumb ass killed! The cop was a f up too! Should have gotten off his neck! Both were F ups! But if Floyd complied he would not have died! FACT!

resisting is no reason to kneel on his neck

I don’t mean to butt in but George was being a little too eratic and paranoid for someone supposedly with a negligible amount of fentanyl in his body. He was hospitalized prior for nearly oding on drugs prior to an arrest before if Wikipedia about him is to be believed. I’m not saying he deserved to die, just saying that maybe he should’ve learned his lesson from the first time he tried to hide drugs in his possession from the police by eating it. Just my 2 cents.

Says who? You some kind of expert in police restraint tactics?

He repeatedly said I can't breathe, and the cop still did ot let go. So even if he did want to, the cop would not have listened. Good thing that cop is in prison now.

we can only hope the death penalty

He was already handcuffed. He was pretty much cooperating until after they tried to put him in the cop car. On the body cam footage you can hear a witness tell Floyd to go in the car "you're not going to win" to which Floyd responded, "I'm not trying to win." On the footage you here Floyd (politely) tell the cops "I'm claustrophobic." He was having a panic attack and couldn't stop it. The cops pulled him out of the car and then one of them knelt on his neck until he died. Floyd said several times "I can't breathe!" but the cop didn't the entire time he was doing so the cop looked disturbingly calm. If you don't believe me here you go: https://youtu.be/1CjE7J4ig_4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQYMBALDXc

If someone knocks over your glass of water you shoot an RPG at them

He also had a lethal amount of Fentanyl in his blood

Cant forget that

idgaf the cop killed him

LETHAL

the autopsy shows it

That George was killed by the Fentanyl or are you just making things up, sorry in advance if you are saying the Fentanyl.

George Floyd did not die because of drugs, he died because there was a cop pressing down on his neck for 9 minutes. How stupid do you have to be to believe he was killed by drugs mayonnaise

yep

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf stupid

That is no excuse to strangle him to death, you shitlord.

mm hm

He resisted arrest and refused to follow orders. If he had jut got in the car, he *might* be alive today . . . Assuming all the drugs in his system didn’t kill him.

He had more than that

Not me but a police officer . . . Yeah, they have the right to shoot if they feel he poses a threat.

MARK THIS DATE DOWN!

I finally agree with one of you liberals. Resisting arrest does NOT give cops the right to shoot somebody.

The cops should, instead, treat him like a human piñata and torture the f**k out of him until just before he’s ready to die.

Jesus, man, calm down!

"Do as we say and nobody gets hurt" is something we say to hostages. The death penalty is not the sentence for noncompliance ANYWHERE in the United States.

Resist arrest and act like you going for a gun anti! See what happens even if you were J walking! If you got shot and killed your fault! If I was on a jury I would definitely side with the cop on that one as anyone should! No matter what race, religion or sexual orientation!

Yes but more black people have been shot and killed by white cops for noncompliance than white people have been shot by cops of any color for the exact same thing!
The other day someone was shot for running away but he didn't have a gun and wasn't threatening anyone or anything and the only reason the cops even had a warrant for him was because of a misdemeanor! He didn't kill or hurt anyone or steal anything so shooting him was completely unnecessary! Black people have been shot just for holding up a phone! One dude was shot while he was walking into his own house while holding nothing but a subway sandwich in his hand! The cops who shot him said he was waving a gun around and threatening to shoot! While yes he did own a gun which he owned legally, it was in his car at the time and all he was holding was a sandwich! Dude was shot in front of his family! He wasn't even resisting arrest or anything there was no reason for him to have been shot at all!
Cops should only use lethal force when being threatened! Non-compliance doesn't always mean that a person is threatening the lives of the cop or other people! If someone is just refusing to comply but not doing anything that would endanger the lives of anyone around them there should be no need to use deadly force!!! Ever read To Kill a Mocking Bird? If the answer is no go read it. If the answer is yes, go read it again. Or just watch the movie I don't care!

You have nothing but jibberish here. More whites have been killed by cops, More blacks have been killed by other blacks in gang related shootings. More innocents have been killed by both races than cops have killed. So I peg you as a white guilt racist who thinks that blacks are too stupid to use ID to vote or you are a self hating black racist that believes blacks are too dumb to comply or have ID to vote. As a Military Officer I never had one black that did not complete a task I ask of them! In fact they did better than I wanted in most cases! They never said I am black I am too stupid. That is what racists do like you that make excuses!

pure bull shit

Wtf? Where did you get any of that? I never said all blacks don't comply or whatever the heck you're trying to get at. Some people do comply! Some don't! I AM TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO DON'T! I don't think blacks are stupid. Some people just respond illogically to cop questioning no matter if they have or haven't done anything wrong or no matter their skin color. It happens. All I was saying is that non compliance doesn't always mean they are endangering people's lives and that sometimes people have been shot for no reason! Glad that you seem like a good Military Officer but that doesn't change the fact that there are bad one sadly. I saw this video where this dude was just picking up trash around his campus and he didn't even threaten the cop. He just didn't show his ID when the dude asked and kept walking around carrying his bucket and little grabber thing (idk what you call it). But the cop kept going. Several people as well as the guy had informed the cop that the dude lived there but the cop didn't listen. He then called for backup and said he was threatening him with an unidentified weapon (again he should have been able to clearly see that the man was holding one of those grabber things and a plastic bucket and that was it) when in fact the man was just trying to keep doing what he was doing and it was the cop who kept following him and wouldn't leave him alone. The dude told him he was picking up trash and that he lived there and stuff but the cop treated him like a threat. I never said that they are too stupid to comply. Humans can just be illogical sometimes no matter their race.

If you’re a cop, you don’t have time to tell if the item in someone’s hand is a phone or a gun, especially when you told them to “drop it”.

I find it hard to believe that a cop just walked up to someone with a sandwich in his hand and shot him for no reason. There’s more to the story than what you’ve been told. In 99.9% cases, the person who got shot refused to obey orders. Do you really think a cop should wait until a defiant suspect shoots him before using a weapon?

Cops are threatened when people refuse to obey orders. They don’t wait until a suspect has a chance to pull a weapon on them or someone else. If they did, they wouldn’t have a job very long because they’d be dead.

African-Americans and Hispanics make up 30% of the nation’s population but, relatively speaking, account for roughly 55% of people killed by cops.

That is, by any metric, disproportionate.

As a police officer, one should recognize it’s an inherently dangerous job, right? It’s not a surprise that you may be put in a dicey situation on any given shift but if you make a mistake, particularly one that gets someone killed, you’re held responsible, right? Nope. Qualified immunity.

If I’m driving down the highway and I swerve to avoid hitting someone and in the process, I hit another car and kill someone, I’m held personally responsible and financially liable for my mistake. But why? When you’re commuting to work, you sometimes have to make split-second decisions and since that’s the case, I shouldn’t be held responsible.

See how silly that sounds?

Actually, if you swerve to avoid hitting someone, the person who made you swerve could be held responsible. It depends on the situation and there’s no set formula that covers them all. We’ve had the lie, repeated by the media, that cops should always know exactly how to handle every situation and should never ever file a weapon on an unarmed person. See how silly that sounds? You’re acting like an armchair quarterback - casting judgement based on what you see on TV but you don’t know what you’re taking about.

And, as we’ve seen today, cops do get held responsible.

“Actually, if you swerve to avoid hitting someone, the person who made you swerve could be held responsible.”

Meanwhile, back in reality, that doesn’t actually happen.

“It depends on the situation and there’s no set formula that covers them all.”

You’re correct. However, the fact remains if I wipe out a bus load of nuns, there won’t be much of an investigation into who made me swerve. To imply otherwise is unrealistic and downright silly.

There is, however, a set formula for police that states you can’t fire your weapon on an unarmed individual, much less into an unarmed individuals back. Or kneel on someone’s neck for nine minutes until they die.

“We’ve had the lie, repeated by the media, that cops should always know exactly how to handle every situation and should never ever fire a weapon on an unarmed person.”

How is that a lie? Are you being serious now? In your world, cops can fire on unarmed civilians because they “feel threatened?”

Police are supposedly “trained” to handle intense situations. Yes, they should know how to behave because they’re NOT criminals, right? I don’t necessarily even think you and I completely disagree but I have one caveat: end qualified immunity.

“You’re acting like an armchair quarterback - casting judgement based on what you see on TV but you don’t know what you’re taking about.”

Ah, the siren song of the arrogant...as if you possess some superior knowledge that allows to to poo-poo the notion that anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t know what they’re talking about “because they don’t know, maaaaaaaaaan.”

“And, as we’ve seen today, cops do get held responsible.”

Yes.

Today.

But not in 2016 when an unarmed Daniel Shaver was executed in a Arizona La Quinta Inn hallway face-down on his hands and knees by a cop who was then fired, put on trial for murder, somehow acquitted, rehired, then, shortly thereafter, retired due to the “PTSD from the trial” and now collects a $2500-a-month pension. For life. Because he murdered someone.

There’s bodycam footage with audio. You really should watch it.

Not in Sept. 2020 when Salt Lake City police shot 13-year-old Linden Cameron who had Aspergers seven times because he was having a mental episode. Also unarmed and by all accounts not in the least physically intimidating. That cop has never been publicly named and is probably still working.

I could go on and on, but you’d just dismiss it as “armchair quarterbacking.”

I don’t know what country you live in, but you obviously don’t know much about the judicial system in the US.

It’s funny how you just did that thing I said you were going to do.

Funny how you think anybody cares.

STEALING!!!

“Yeah, right. I was referring to you quoting me. 🙄
See what I mean. Nothing intelligent from you.”

Actually, you haven’t addressed anything. See where I used real stats to blow a hole in your theory that white people are twice as likely to be shot by cops as black people?...but black people only comprise roughly 14% of the US population. You were too busy trying to smugly (and incorrectly) dispute my percentage-of-responsibility-for-my-swerving-car scenario.

Take off the blinders, bud. Let the light in.

Blacks account for 55% of people killed by cops, eh? So if 24% of those killed since 2015 were shot, how did police kill the other 31%, with kindness?

“African-Americans and Hispanics make up 30% of the nation’s population but, relatively speaking, account for roughly 55% of people killed by cops.”

Reading is fundamental. I used the statistics YOU presented.

I can’t believe how often someone can self-own. This must be very disappointing for you.

Please show us where I presented stats showing “African-Americans and Hispanics make up 30% of the nation’s population but, relatively speaking, account for roughly 55% of people killed by cops.”

So, let’s add the 17% of hispanics fatally shot by police. That comes to 41% of all people fatally shot by police were black or Hispanic. So you’re saying is 11% of blacks and Hispanics killed by cops were not shot. Or did your fundamental reading get that from something I presented too?

The other thing you’re not considering is the fact that a higher percentage of crimes are committed by blacks and hispanics. But, since that doesn’t jive with your racist narrative, you just ignore that little fact.

According to the graph YOU posted, approximately 415 whites were killed by cops in 2019, and an estimated 660 minorities (270 black, 180 Hispanic, plus 210 “unknown” whatever that means, so I didn’t even include it) so that conservatively has 450 black and Hispanic people being shot by cops in 2019 makes for 52% of minorities being shot. I merely estimated in my head and didn’t do the hard math. I’m also eyeballing those numbers because your graph is shite.

I was off by 3 percentage points. Not too shabby for running the numbers in my head.

I won’t expect congrats from you.

I also used the US census bureau for my population statistics (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US) with 76.3% of the US being white and 31.9% of the US identifies as black or Hispanic (13.4% black and 18.5% Hispanic) accounting for 52% of police shootings in the US.

So just to recap, 32% of the population accounts for 52% of the police shootings while 76% of the population accounts for around 40% (again spitballing that number because of the “unknowns”).

Not really clear what you don’t understand here. It’s extraordinarily disproportionate.

I also understand that minorities tend to live in higher crime areas but it’s laughable that you say I’m using a racist narrative.

Unless, by racist narrative, you’re agreeing with me that white cops are more prone to using violence against minorities than they are against other whites. Then we’re sympatico.

You’re racist by assuming that all the killings were done by “white cops”.
And, yes, a higher proportion of crimes are committed by minorities so it’s not difficult understand that’s why a disproportionate number of minorities also get killed by cops. You’re racist by suggesting that the disproportionate numbers are due to racism of “white cops”.
So, try doing something else in your head instead of blaming racist white cops for the high percentage of minorities being killed.

“More therapeutic, mindless drivel is see. Hope you find someone who cares about your idiotic rants enough to actually read it.”

This always seems to be your M.O. when you have no rational response. It’s an amusing (and ironic) statement, coming on the heels of your thesis for admission to pre-K. You belch out conservative bullet points, provide nothing of substance, nothing to actually justify said points, throw in a couple of impotent insults...rinse, lather, repeat.

It’s sad, really. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be so afraid of things you clearly can’t comprehend and, on top of that, lack the ability to learn from past mistakes.

You’re posses the intellect of a caveman.

Here are a few examples of what you say when you have no reasonable response:

“There’s way too much to unpack in this statement. This is...woof...this is a doozy.”

“Now who’s being silly?”

“Take off the blinders, bud. Let the light in.”

“You’re posses the intellect of a caveman.”

“There’s way too much to unpack in this statement. This is...woof...this is a doozy.”

...followed shortly thereafter by an explanation how and why you’re not biased. You’re racist. But I have to keep it short so you don’t get distracted by some shiny objects and use the cop-out of lol TL;dr

“Now who’s being silly?”

...on the heels of some ridiculous proposed scenario about cops stopping white women when the perp is a black man.

“Take off the blinders, bud. Let the light in.”

...which was immediately preceded by: “Actually, you haven’t addressed anything. See where I used real stats to blow a hole in your theory that white people are twice as likely to be shot by cops as black people?...but black people only comprise roughly 14% of the US population. You were too busy trying to smugly (and incorrectly) dispute my percentage-of-responsibility-for-my-swerving-car scenario.”

Context is everything. You know what context is, right?

“You’re posses the intellect of a caveman.”

...and you haven’t proven otherwise. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LOL
You still haven’t addressed anything. You just try to justify your rants.

LOL, indeed.

Very reminiscent of Timber1972. You must be related.

Who?
I hope you’re having as much fun making your petty rants as I am shooting them down and ignoring your term paper sized comments.

If you’re a cop, you should be able to identify that a phone is not a gun and not escalate the situation more than it already is.

Easy to say when you’ve never been in such a situation. You should try one of those tests where you have to quickly decide when and what to shoot before you get shot yourself. Then you might have a better appreciation for what cops have to do.

You're right, I appreciate the police killing 7680 black people in between 2014 and 2020

Abortion killed 120,000 black people in the same time period.

That is if only 40% of abortions were black people.

Sorry if you read the post that I deleted. I made a math mistake.

They were all black? Site your source.

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/know-their-names/index.html

That only lists the black people who were shot. Where does it say 1/4 of all people killed by police between 2014 and 2020 were black - or any other race, for that matter?

no i forgot to add that a quarter of them are black

Still waiting for your source.

it says it in the link description

Sorry, don’t see a link description.

“Everyone has a bias. It’s what causes us to choose one thing over another when all other factors are the same.”

But the factors aren’t the same.

“Our news media has a bias of presenting conservatives as negative and liberals as positive.”

Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick, cry me a river. Maybe, just maybe, ‘conservatives’ are made to look like idiots because they actually are idiots. You’re probably still waving a Trump flag and swearing allegiance on the skull of Ronald Reagan, even though it’s Reagan’s policies, both economic and domestic, that got us where we are today. Which is, in actuality, the institutional bias I’m referring to. It’s not so narrow a scope as simply cops. I’m talking about the haves and the have-nots.

“Police have a bias of assuming wrong doing by minorities more than they do caucasians. You know why they have such a bias? Because they have to deal with more minority criminals than whites.”

Police aren’t supposed to assume anything. That’s their “training.” They’re not judges, they’re not juries and they sure as shit aren’t supposed to be executioners.

“The media calls this racism but it’s actually reaction to reality. If minority groups don’t like the biases against them then they need to figure out whats causing such biases and do something to change it. They claim the negative bias is simply because of the color of their skin but they ignore the reasons why. Instead of showing that such biases are wrong and out of place, they protest in the streets day and night for weeks in end - occupying police forces while thugs with their same skin color commit more crime. Then they wonder why there is such a negative bias towards them.”

There’s way too much to unpack in this statement. This is...woof...this is a doozy.

The media calls what you’re talking about racism because it’s racism, but this whole little diatribe here? Yeesh. “A reaction to reality?”

You’re not going to get it and you’re going to try unsuccessfully to argue otherwise but, brother, that’s racist.

“So, yes, it’s a biased system . . . for a reason.”

When I refer to something being biased, I actually mean biased. Now when you use “biased,” it’s not the word I think you mean. Mainly because you believe that any “bias” (racism) is justified.

“Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick, cry me a river. Maybe, just maybe, ‘conservatives’ are made to look like idiots because they actually are idiots. You’re probably still waving a Trump flag and swearing allegiance on the skull of Ronald Reagan, even though it’s Reagan’s policies, both economic and domestic, that got us where we are today. Which is, in actuality, the institutional bias I’m referring to. It’s not so narrow a scope as simply cops. I’m talking about the haves and the have-nots.”
There you go again with your unintelligent comments. Who said anything about conservatives made to look like idiots? It’s the liberal morons who’ve been duped into voting for higher taxes and loss of freedoms. That’s what idiocy is and the MSM leads them on like dangling a carrot in front of a mule. You’re stupid to think that the government should be taking from the haves and giving to the have nots. It’s that mentality that gets people hooked on government welfare. And the Democrat party know it and exploits it to keep themselves in power.

“Police aren’t supposed to assume anything. That’s their “training.” They’re not judges, they’re not juries and they sure as shit aren’t supposed to be executioners.”
Seriously? You actually believe that BS? Ever hear of profiling? It’s a common tool used by law enforcement. Let me guess, if a dispatch says to be on the lookout for a black male, cops should check white females with equal scrutiny so they aren’t being “biased”. You seem to think cops should be mindless drones that only do what they’ve been programmed to do. Using deadly force to protect themselves and others is not being an executioner and you know it - You’re just being thick headed.

You apparently don’t even understand what being biased is. You think any kind of bias toward someone of color is racism. OK the, so is the racist bias that you have toward white cops. And I never said racial bias is always justified. I just pointed out that it exists. Always has, always will and no amount of “training” is going to change that. The only thing that change is if people recognize their biases and don’t let them adversely control their actions.

So take note of your own bias against white cops and quit letting it make you look like a fool.

“Ever hear of profiling? It’s a common tool used by law enforcement. Let me guess, if a dispatch says to be on the lookout for a black male, cops should check white females with equal scrutiny so they aren’t being “biased”.”

Now who’s being silly?

“You seem to think cops should be mindless drones that only do what they’ve been programmed to do. Using deadly force to protect themselves and others is not being an executioner and you know it - You’re just being thick headed.”

There are times when use of deadly force is necessary. There are also plenty of times when it isn’t. George Floyd is one. Daniel Shaver is another. The list goes on and on and on. And when it’s deemed unnecessary, it doesn’t matter because qualified immunity protects shithead cops from being prosecuted for what would otherwise be criminal actions.

“You apparently don’t even understand what being biased is. You think any kind of bias toward someone of color is racism.”

No, the one who distinguish between bias and racism is you. You think you’re simply biased. I can see you’re racist, based solely on your own statements. You could probably add “classist” to that pile, too, since you seem to think poor people are poor because they’re lazy and not that the economic system is stacked against them.

“OK the, so is the racist bias that you have toward white cops.”

Because you said so. Got it. With the ironclad ‘I know you are but what am I’ counter-argument, you can never go wrong.

“And I never said racial bias is always justified. I just pointed out that it exists. Always has, always will and no amount of “training” is going to change that.”

You complained that minorities took the streets and protested night and day, occupying police forces while thugs committed crimes. That’s about as brain-dead an assessment of what was going on as I could possibly read.

“The only thing that change is if people recognize their biases and don’t let them adversely control their actions.”

How very progressive of you. Careful, you’re starting to sound like a lib.

“So take note of your own bias against white cops and quit letting it make you look like a fool.”

Got ‘em.

More therapeutic, mindless drivel is see. Hope you find someone who cares about your idiotic rants enough to actually read it.

“There you go again with your unintelligent comments. Who said anything about conservatives made to look like idiots?”

You did. You *claim* the liberal media portrays ‘conservatives’ as negative. Your words. I changed ‘negative’ to idiots. Same same.

“It’s the liberal morons who’ve been duped into voting for higher taxes and loss of freedoms.”

What freedoms have been infringed upon? Gun rights? When Reagan was governor of CA, he passed laws to abolish open carry because a couple Black Panthers marched on the state Capitol and exercised their open carry rights. Donald Trump said to “take their guns and worry about due process later.” (https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI)

You schmucks have been crying about yer freedums since Bill Clinton and nothing has ever changed.

And why are you so opposed to taxing the rich? Do you make more than $400k a year? Doubtful.

The greatest era of prosperity this country ever saw was post-WWII when the tax rate for the top 1% was well over 75%...and they were STILL part of the top 1%.

“That’s what idiocy is and the MSM leads them on like dangling a carrot in front of a mule. You’re stupid to think that the government should be taking from the haves and giving to the have nots. It’s that mentality that gets people hooked on government welfare.”

Oh, here we go. I’ll bet you’re one of those “taxation is theft” mouth breathers.

It’s your mentality that’s permitted the chasm that’s developed and continues to develop between the have haves and have nots. Amazon pulls in billions and pays no federal taxes? Netflix? But my tax rate is 41%? Five+ decades of Reaganomics has made the rich richer and the poor poorer, but please tell me about how great tax cuts for the filthy rich are for you, personally. Or better yet, tell me how the Trump tax cuts put more money in your pocket and I’ll tell you how it was just a game of three card monty for idiots like you.

http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/12/23/tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down/

“And the Democrat party know it and exploits it to keep themselves in power.”

I don’t even know where to start with a statement this idiotic.

It’s the greedy, covetousness of the left that’s the problem with taxing the rich. The rich already pay a higher tax rate than the poor. Being a constant consumer of welfare without having any skin in the game just demoralizes the poor even more. What we need is a flat tax where everyone pays the same percentage no matter what their income is. But the government will never agree to that because they would lose their influence on our behavior. They can’t stand it if we choose who we give charitable donations to because they want to force us to donate to their causes.

As far as freedom go, being dependent on the government for everything is loss of freedom. And that’s exactly what the left wants - the cradle to grave nanny state. They can’t control the rich like they do the poor. They want to dictate how much of your paycheck you keep so they can redistribute to those who they deem to be “more needy”. They want to control healthcare so they can decide who is worth spending medical resources on while they force you to subsidize things like abortion, sex changes, etc.

And before you even start, spare us the BS on how liberals are more caring than conservatives. The difference is liberals think they are more caring by giving a man a fish (that someone else caught) instead of teaching the man to fish, which is more the conservative way of being compassionate. The whole Robin hood approach to caring for the poor sounds good on the surface but it’s morally wrong.

Face it. You’re a victim of leftist propaganda. They have you believing that the government knows better how to care for you than you do. That’s probably true now that you’ve drunk the Koolaid. But if you stopped drinking in the lies of the left and tried a little independent thought, you might understand. They have you believing that law enforcement is systematically executing minorities because of the amount of pigment in their skin. Stop being such an idiot.

lol jumping Jesus on a pogo stick

https://youtu.be/71PNZH1OaW0

The Dead Milkmen were doing Alex Jones waaaaaaaay before Alex Jones was doing Alex Jones.

You choose the part that you think you can manipulate and do a horrible job of manipulating. You’re demonstrably bad at this.

“You’re racist by assuming that all the killings were done by “white cops”.”

https://datausa.io/profile/soc/police-officers

I think it’s a pretty safe assumption that the majority of police shootings are being done by white cops. Unless you’re implying that minority police officers are WAY more prone to violence. That would be pretty racist.

“And, yes, a higher proportion of crimes are committed by minorities so it’s not difficult understand that’s why a disproportionate number of minorities also get killed by cops.”

There have been studies that show white police officers are more likely to resort to violence against minorities.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01846-z

The empirical data exists. It’s just too long for you to read because you believe it’s a lie.

“You’re racist by suggesting that the disproportionate numbers are due to racism of “white cops”.
So, try doing something else in your head instead of blaming racist white cops for the high percentage of minorities being killed.””

You’re a clown for trying to imply otherwise.

You’re still trying to blame everything on white cops while ignoring the fact that minorities account for the majority of crimes.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877
“We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers”

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe

The data exists showing that White Police Officers Are NOT More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspects.

Is it too long for you to read because YOU think it’s a lie? How about the source being too biased. The first one is from one of your own source and don’t try to tell me that NPR is a right-wing propaganda outlet or something like that.

Face it, you’ve been lied to and you’re just parroting carefully edited sound bites from the media trying to convince us that white people are born racist. I don’t know or care what race you are but I can tell that you’ve been conditioned to hate cops, especially if they’re white.

Adorable graphs. No citations though so I wonder if you’re making them yourself.

Interesting, PNAS article, right? You read the whole thing that quickly? Impressive. You didn’t just scroll down to search for the conclusion? No, a learned, worldly individual such as yourself would never commit, at best, a rookie mistake or, at worst, such an ignoramus move?

Did you read the retraction? Oh, you didn’t? Here it is:

“The authors wish to note the following: “Our article estimated the role of officer characteristics in predicting the race of civilians fatally shot by police. A critique pointed out we had erroneously made statements about racial differences in the probability of being shot (1), and we issued a correction to rectify the statement (2).

Despite this correction, our work has continued to be cited as providing support for the idea that there are no racial biases in fatal shootings, or policing in general. To be clear, our work does not speak to these issues and should not be used to support such statements. We take full responsibility for not being careful enough with the inferences made in our original report, as this directly led to the misunderstanding of our research.

While our data and statistical approach were appropriate for investigating whether officer characteristics are related to the race of civilians fatally shot by police, they are inadequate to address racial disparities in the probability of being shot.

Given these issues and the continued use of our work in the public debate on this topic, we have decided to retract the article.”

It’s not just at the end. It’s at the end-end. So, yeah, there’s that.

Anywho, I’m well aware of the NPR article as well. I would reasonably assume the answer is somewhere in the middle. I don’t believe all people in general are racist or even discriminatory. However, police (or more directly, police unions) allow for racist assholes and/or dangerously unfit individuals to “serve and protect” (which they legally are not obligated to do anymore) and then shield them under the guise of qualified immunity. And while they do so, minorities are getting shot at roughly twice the rate as white people.

I’ll probably just stop now because there’s zero chance you’ve gotten this far without getting your smoothed-out gray matter all achey and hurty.

Did you see why they retracted it? Not because of any errors in the study. It was because of who was siting it. Mainly because of a WSJ article sited their study.

https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/myth-systemic-police-racism/

In other words, they caved to pressure from leftists who didn’t like the results of their study.
The data still shows that white cops are not more likely to shoot minorities.

Are there racists cops? Yes, both black and white.
Is it systemically against blacks? No, but the left wants us the believe it is and they try to silence anyone who provides evidence to the contrary.

Oh, you are paying attention? Or, at least you read the first few paragraphs. Good.

The problem keeps coming from the fact that the one pushing the narrative is YOU. I’m the one who keeps saying that I don’t believe the system is racist. I do, however, believe the system is biased.

Racist ≠ biased

Someone that’s racist is biased but someone that’s biased isn’t necessarily racist. A system can be biased without being inherently racist and the statistics I’ve already presented speak to that. And a biased system can contain racist elements which tends to obfuscate the larger problem because people with smaller minds get hung up on one aspect...in this case, “racist.”

“Racist cop” makes a much sexier headline than “biased system” and ALL news outlets are guilty of committing the same sin.

Do I think Derek Chauvin was a racist? I don’t know for sure, but I do know his record could confirm that notion. What I do believe is that Derek Chauvin casually murdered a man in broad daylight using a hold that Minneapolis police do not sanction. If there wasn’t someone there to record it, he would’ve been blanket-protected by his union under the guise of qualified immunity and he probably would’ve gotten away with it.

That makes for a biased system.

Everyone has a bias. It’s what causes us to choose one thing over another when all other factors are the same. Our news media has a bias of presenting conservatives as negative and liberals as positive. Police have a bias of assuming wrong doing by minorities more than they do caucasians. You know why they have such a bias? Because they have to deal with more minority criminals than whites.

The media calls this racism but it’s actually reaction to reality. If minority groups don’t like the biases against them then they need to figure out whats causing such biases and do something to change it. They claim the negative bias is simply because of the color of their skin but they ignore the reasons why. Instead of showing that such biases are wrong and out of place, they protest in the streets day and night for weeks in end - occupying police forces while thugs with their same skin color commit more crime. Then they wonder why there is such a negative bias towards them.

So, yes, it’s a biased system . . . for a reason.

where is your evidence

Try the URLs I posted.

Yeah I know they should but sometimes people can be illogical. I have talked about this with my parents and even if it is not a gun I agree that you should drop it unless you want to get shot. I understand a lot of cops have been in situations like that before and they don't want to take chances.
No I don't but if the person isn't actually threatening the lives of anyone then it is unreasonable. If the person has a gun and is waving or pointing it or threatening to kill someone, then yes shoot. That is reasonable. But is the person is just refusing to come along or answer questions or whatever and isn't actually threatening anyone's safety, then lethal force is not necessary.

I’ve heard blacks complain that, when they get pulled over by a cop, they have to keep their hands on the wheel and don’t make any sudden moves. But I’m white and I was taught the exact same thing. Cops don’t know what you might do and they are targets so they don’t take any chances. Neither should you. If you don’t want to get shot, don’t do anything that might provoke them, even if they’re in the wrong. Doesn’t matter what your race is.

I know but the problem is that there are some people who are racist. Now they themselves may not realize it. It's hard to explain but sometimes people have felt threatened of someone because of their race they see the person and are afraid. It's sub-conscious. But my point is if a person is calm and just walking away or whatever that is no reason to shoot. Also notice that in that statement I never actually said black people. Yeah what I said applies to ALL RACES. I didn't just have black people in mind.

If you ignore commands from a police officer, you’re putting yourself in danger. Doesn’t matter your race, gender or age. All the cases of unarmed people being shot by police have a common theme - the victim didn’t obey orders. I bring up race because only when it’s a minority shot by a white officer does it make the news. This is why there’s a false perception that blacks are being targeted by white police.

Yes. You should listen! I'm not saying you shouldn't! But so should the cops! if someone is telling you they are claustrophobic and are pleading with you and they are having a panic attack you do not take them out of the car then kneel on their neck and continue to do so when they are saying they can't breathe (and are already handcuffed) and other people around are also telling you to stop (that is what happened with George Floyd) . My point wasn't that they should be excused but that there are bad cops who use unnecessary force like in the case of George Floyd! Heck the guy who killed Floyd said "we got to control this, got to control this guy because he is a sizable guy. And it looks like he's probably on something." While he was on something Floyd wasn't threatening the cops! He was pleading with them saying he was claustrophobic! He was having a panic attack! He was also already handcuffed! MY point is these things DO happen! I'm not saying every instance where a black person is killed by a white cop is because the cop is racist but sometimes that IS the case! https://youtu.be/1CjE7J4ig_4
Also I've heard white people getting shot on the news before.

They didn’t take him out of the car. In fact they spent several minutes trying to get him into the car and he refused to comply.
If police back off every time a suspect claims to be claustrophobic or can’t breath, there would be a lot more criminals on the loose. I’m not saying the officer wasn’t at least partially responsible for Floyd’s death. But Floyd would have never been in that situation if he 1) wasn’t on drugs. 2) didn’t resist arrest.

it does matter your race cause if your white they won't shoot

Show me one case where anyone, black or white, was obeying orders and the police shot them anyway. The fact that you seem to think only blacks get shot by police shows that you are a racist.

that explains a lot

“Funny how you think anybody cares.”

I know. Sometimes reading is difficult, especially when it shatters your fragile sensibilities.

It’s even more difficult when it contains a bunch of nonsense.

...which you didn’t read because it was too long?

Pick a lane.

What’s the matter, you upset that you spent so much time writing a thesis that nobody else read but you?

All I had to read were the 1st few paragraphs to know you had nothing intelligent to say. But I’m sure you found it therapeutical to put your nonsensical opinions in writing. So go ahead and read it to yourself since nobody else is going to. 😁

That’s funny, the “first few paragraphs” were mostly quoting you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is that what the kids refer to as a self-burn?

Yeah, right. I was referring to you quoting me. 🙄
See what I mean. Nothing intelligent from you.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-ohio-fatal-police-shooting-casey-goodson-20201209-3h75cq6vsnecxbomzuacczea7m-story.html
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-12-08/family-black-man-shot-by-deputy-held-a-sandwich-not-a-gun

The cop thought he had a gun that turned out to be a phone.

“One witness heard Meade command Goodson to drop his gun, and when he didn’t, the deputy shot him”
Doesn’t sound like the cop shot him for no reason. But the cop did get fired for unreasonable use of deadly force. Just goes to show, don’t sass, resist, argue your rights, etc with a police officer. Do what they say and live to sue them in court, if necessary.

HOW DOES A SUBWAY SANDWICH LOOK ANYTHING LIKE A GUN?!?!
IT'S A FREAKING SANDWICH!!!
'“At this point, witness testimony and physical evidence raise serious concerns about why Casey was even confronted, let alone why he was shot dead while entering his own home,” the lawyers added.'

What part of “thought he had a gun that turned out to be a phone” did you not understand?
The whole Subway sandwich argument is a red herring, get over it.

He was in his own home.
There was no reason for the cop to even go in and shoot him!

He got shot outside.

idgaf if its a mistake they cant shoot unless their certain, you should never become a cop

Any slim doubt the shot should be fired! If the person resisting a Cops life is important! The idiot has no value in my mind!

f**k you r

Nearly every cop who waited until they were “certain” is dead or severely wounded. You should never become a cop or you’ll be the same.

alright so the cops will just shoot anything that's moving that's either black or brown

You’re a racist idiot.

im speaking the truth

Sorry, you’re a delusional racist.

if you have amazon prime watch the show ¨Them¨ that should show you what I'm talking about

Percentage of US that’s white: 76.3%
Percentage of US that’s black: 13.4%

And I’d recognize the chyron of Fox News’ favorite white nationalist and sentient fart, Tucker Carlson. I’d double check those stats if I were you.

Lol jk you don’t care about facts.

yep

The death penalty is not the sentence for noncompliance ANYWHERE in the United States.

So what’s your brain dead answer to this problem? Do nothing? Let criminals go? Let them shoot police?

You’re an actual dumbass.

Deescalate the situation and then bring them alive to a courtroom another time to charge them with resisting arrest.

Which, in Illinois, is a misdemeanor. THERE IS NO DEATH PENALTY FOR A MISDEMEANOUR, EVER!!!

Really? Easy to say “de-escalate” a situation when you have less than a second to react before getting possibly shot. Officers have the right to protect their own lives too - criminals are not above the law and officers below it. Toledo was 100% justified. The whole “taser” shooting in Minneapolis was a mistake, sure. But again - another example of someone who resisted arrest.

And the argument that “resisting arrest is only a misdemeanor” - doesn’t matter. By resisting, it puts the officers and others in danger. Why are we saying it’s okay to resist police? It isn’t.

I think you need to have your brain rewired.

Facts are hard for a liberal to understand! They go by feelings not facts! As a Military officer I was trained to care almost 0 for feelings! Facts mattered. Unfortunately many liberal comprehension skills go with feelings first! I dealt with allies that actually hate this country! I now see also Americans who are either white guilt racists that believe blacks can not think for themselves or self hating racist blacks that thinks their race can not function without special help like forgiving resisting arrest and excusing it! If the pushed comply do not die and take it to court that would be the best answer! But no that does not fit their hate/division/racism anti American Agenda!

And I think you need to know the definition of resisting arrest, resisting arrest is not usually people pulling out a gun and trying to shoot the people arresting them. Most of the time it is people trying to run away. If you think that puts police’s lives in danger, you are wrong. There is no reason to be scared of an unarmed person running away from you because they don’t want to be killed.

Doesn’t always mean they are going to pull a weapon, no. Could be that they get in their car to speed away and they happen to run over an officer in the process (which actually just happened to an officer a few months back). Or it turns into a pursuit which leads to them crashing into another vehicle killing an innocent (which also just happened to a local officer). So, no - YOU are wrong.

Again, an officers job is to protect and serve. So yes, resisting arrest IS dangerous for everyone involved and IS a choice that a criminal makes.

We should be teaching the country that resisting arrest is NOT OKAY. But we are doing the complete opposite. If you don’t want to be killed - don’t run. Comply and take it to court if you are supposedly innocent.

Which is why most of us normal people believe you have a mental illness.

mayo means a white person

I guess to some; to us normal people it is short for mayonnaise. Which is a condiment.

mayos cant punch

Neither can Soy boys. So - go back to watching My Little Pony or go LARPing with your other racist ANTIFA friends. I’m not sure what you Soys do these days for fun.

Let me ask you this, if you were African American and you saw people of your race being killed for no good reason, would you run away in fear of being killed? Or would you want to die.

b*tch what the f**k is soy boy

I agree that sometimes resisting arrest can be dangerous, but most of the time it isnt. And it is never justified for a police officer to kill an unarmed person

So because it “sometimes isn’t dangerous” it’s okay to do? Or again - how about we put no one in danger and just comply?

ok mayo

Okay Soy boy.

“Possibly getting shot”

How though, most African Americans killed by police are unarmed, there is literally no reason the cop’s life would be in danger, there is no reason to kill an unarmed person for a misdemeanor

Also, not to trash your narrative - but here are the facts: 14 unarmed Black victims and 25 unarmed white victims in 2019 were shot by police.

Know how many police officers were killed in the line of duty in 2019?

89.

And of the 89, 48 of them were felonious deaths; malicious.

According to the FBI, 40 of the 48 were WHITE with seven being black and one Asian.

I never said anything about the police officers race, I also never said that there aren’t white people dying because of police. I don’t think its justified for anyone to be killed by police, I think there is no reason for police to kill someone because of a misdemeanor. Whether that is passing a fake $20 bill, or having a broken tail light or anything else.

You don’t have to; the stats about officers are irrelevant to the narrative because they contradict it.

Of course no one should die to the police - why do you think they like killing people? It mentally f**ks them up. They are not out there to kill anyone - those people put themselves in that position almost each and every time minus maybe a few one offs.

228 police officers in 2019 committed suicide - one being my friends husband. So if you think the 14 resisting arrest black folk killed is terrible - the 228 should be staggering to you. But I doubt it is because “BlackLivesMatter” or whatever.

I’m unsure if this is sarcasm or if you’re being serious. Hah

I’m being serious, an example of what i was saying is George Floyd, he died to a police officer pressing down on his neck for 9 minutes because he tried to pass a fake 20 dollar bill. That is a misdemeanor and the cop had no reason to kill him. There is no death penalty for a misdemeanor, yet some people will act like the law doesnt apply to them. Please stop with your fake theories that George Floyd died of drugs or cardiac arrest, those theories are not true and are an excuse to say it wasn’t the cop’s fault, which is obviously not true. Mayo.

Honestly, Floyd was nothing more than a pawn in a Marxist plan to eliminate local police so they can federally control law enforcement. It’s how socialism begins.

As far as his death goes, to simply ignore that he committed a crime, resisted arrest, was high on drugs, existing health conditions, and him just having COVID is ignorant. One must accept the big picture - or none at all.

Do I think Chauvin had to leave Floyd in that position? Perhaps not - but that opinion only comes after watching clips of that shit for over a year now. So it’s easy to say that in retrospect. In the moment, there is no way to know why Chauvin did that - which is why I believe he should have testified.

Mayo?

Actually if you didnt know. Chauvin and Floyd knew each other and didnt like each other

When did Floyd resist arrest, when he was trying to tell the officer that he couldn’t breathe because the officer was on his neck? He had a small amount of fentanyl in his body, not enough to kill him though, he didn’t have Covid.

I don’t even think Chauvin should have put floyd in that position in the first place, and if you dont know, it is Wednesday, April 21st, it hasn’t even been a year yet.

But the fact that a black person can try to pass a fake $20 bill and be arrested or killed when it takes a month for the police to convict Chauvin, shows how f**ked up America is.

yeah

Right, both worked security at the same club. This was known - the speculation is how well they actually knew each other is questionable and could only really be answered by Chauvin.

Floyd was saying “he couldn’t breathe” far before he was on the ground under a knee. Apparently the squad car also took his breath away. As far as his fentanyl level.. he had 11 ng/mL in his system - more than what others had in their system at the time of OD. And that was just ONE of the drugs found in his system. If you look at the toxicology report, he had many other substances on there too. It was testified if found dead at home with the same level of drugs in his system - it would be easily labeled an overdose.

Right, I know - it happened on Memorial Day. The level of “George Floyd” consumption over the course of the year (minus 30 days) is more than needed.

And lastly, he wasn’t “murdered” over a fake $20 bill.. he was placed under arrest for it. By law, that’s what happens when you commit a crime. He was killed - or had died - under police custody after RESISTING ARREST.

Lastly, lastly - Chauvins actions are not reflective of “America” or its policing. By saying one bad cop is systemic racism or whatever you’d like to call it - is like calling out the healthcare system because a white doctor killed a black patient. Which has undoubtedly happened in our history.

Why are you saying that it's ok to punish a misdemeanour by shooting them dead?

WITHOUT A TRIAL?

I don't know which police state you're from but the United States made a Constitution a long time ago that said WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO LET THAT HAPPEN HERE.

I’m saying if you put an officers or someone else’s life in jeopardy - yes. Justified shooting.

Why are you pushing this “misdemeanor” narrative? That is a charge for resisting arrest - yes. Look at the big picture dunce.

How in the actual f**k do you find it easier to say: “Cops need to just de-escalate the situation by taking a bullet and letting the criminal go.”

Than

“They shouldn’t resist arrest”.

What clown world do you live in that supports criminals over law and order?

Because you keep pushing this "resisting arrest is punishable by death" narrative! CONSTITUTIONALLY, IT ISN'T!

Okay, well go be an officer and “follow the constitution” then. I want you out there asking all of these gang members, murders, and other assorted f**ks to kindly get into handcuffs and get into the cruiser. And when you get shot and killed because you’re such a nice guy - just following the constitution - criminals and dumbass liberals can spit and curse you for not doing enough.

It is constitutional to defend your life or the life of others.
For instance if a bunch of black clothed people break into my house waving guns around, I will feel like my life is threatened and put those people down. Completely legal.

antithesis, is just a troll. He knows that it wasn't just a matter of resisting arrest, he just likes to portray himself as the victims advocate.

No one has said that resisisting arrest is punishable by death.

There hundreds of thousands of arrests every year, most without incident.

There are probably tens of thousands of criminals that flee or resist to some extent and do not die as a result of violent capture.

There are a very small (but highly publicized 24/7) number of arrests that result in serious injury or death of the perpetrator.

There are incidents of Officers during while attempting to arrest violent felons. This is why they are trained to use whatever force is necessary. A decision that is often made in a split second.

There are also Officers ambushed and killed on purpose.

"I'm saying if if you put an officers or someone else's life in jeopardy - yes."
Ok sure but resisting arrest does not always mean they are threatening others. People have been shot and killed for just running away. They've had no past records of violence or anything. One dude got shot for fleeing. He wasn't threatening the safety of anyone. Sure he had a warrant out for him but it was from some misdemeanor (not sure what it was). It's not like he was a murderer or anything so shooting him wasn't necessary unless he had been actively threatening people. I can guarantee that in a lot of these situations if the victim had been white and had done the exact same things, they wouldn't have been killed. I've been watching this old show that took place a long time ago and many times people characters have been shocked by either letters threatening to kidnap some kid or someone who was in love with some woman taking a joke about her seriously and dueled the person who made said joke and stuff and said "in England" "but this is England" "I mean we're English!" One of the main characters even said "makes you proud to be English" to his non English friend after his friend had mentioned cannibals living in some place. This was a period piece but you can see where some racial profiling stems from while watching. People are capable of horrible things and it doesn't matter if they are white or black or asian or whatever.
If someone is not complying, but is not actively threatening anyone's safety, especially if the person has no past history of violence or anything, or if the reason the cop wanted to speak with them on a suspicion for something small, like he was not called (because racial profiling does play a large roll in what some cops stop and try to question people for) then shooting said person is just extreme.

"One dude got shot for fleeing. He wasn't threatening the safety of anyone. Sure he had a warrant out for him but it was from some misdemeanor (not sure what it was)."

Was that Rayshard Brooks, the black man that stripped the taser from the officers belt and shot it at him while he was "running away"? Still justified shooting if that is the case.

"I can guarantee that in a lot of these situations if the victim had been white and had done the exact same things, they wouldn't have been killed."

This is simply speculation on race in which is arguably moot - since there is no way you can provide evidence of this alternate universal theory.

"This was a period piece but you can see where some racial profiling stems from while watching. "

You're now providing racist context to the real world via a television show. There is nothing wrong with saying ".. makes you proud to be English". Everyone should be proud of their country and/or heritage. This is a healthy form of Nationalism and there is NOTHING wrong with that. Nationalism and racism are two very distant topics yet democrats want you (us) to believe Nationalism is EVIL. It isn't.

"If someone is not complying, but is not actively threatening anyone's safety, especially if the person has no past history of violence or anything, or if the reason the cop wanted to speak with them on a suspicion for something small, like he was not called (because racial profiling does play a large roll in what some cops stop and try to question people for) then shooting said person is just extreme."

Complying can be simply refusing to answer a question - like if an officer asks for your name and you refuse to give the information to them. Resisting arrest is a bit different and does actively threaten the safety of others - especially officers put in that situation. An officer does not know if one resisting is now attempting to get a weapon to use against them - they do not know. Period.

I do not know a single event where an officer rolled up on a black man and shot him for no reason. Please enlighten me with any case in USA where an officer white or black - shot an innocent and unarmed black man for the fun of it.This is a false narrative pushed by the left.

I mean shit - cops cannot punch, kick, shoot, choke hold, etc etc.

Want them to ask criminals politely to get into the cuffs and get in the back of the squad car?

In response to your reply up above:
"Was that Rayshard Brooks, the black man that stripped the taser from the officers belt and shot it at him while he was "running away"? Still justified shooting if that is the case." I actually honestly don't remember who it was but I did hear my parents talking (arguing) about it yesterday.

""This was a period piece but you can see where some racial profiling stems from while watching. "

You're now providing racist context to the real world via a television show. There is nothing wrong with saying ".. makes you proud to be English". Everyone should be proud of their country and/or heritage. This is a healthy form of Nationalism and there is NOTHING wrong with that. Nationalism and racism are two very distant topics yet democrats want you (us) to believe Nationalism is EVIL. It isn't."
I mean that it was made a long time ago and took place in a time even longer ago and yes there is nothing wrong with being proud of your nationality what I meant was sometimes they acted like kidnapping of a child was unheard of because "this is England" (they even first assumed it was some foreign gang (it wasn't)) even though said characters have dealt with lots of murders many of them being very terrible. A lot of characters were even rude to the main character who even though he was a famous detective, (and white) was a foreigner. Some characters were immediately suspicious of others because of their race (they weren't British). That was my point it just seems a little wrong to just assume that it would be more likely for it to be foreigners than someone who was English. Also being English or American or whatever doesn't make you better than someone because of nationality and nobody should act that way just pointing that out real quick.

"I do not know a single event where an officer rolled up on a black man and shot him for no reason. Please enlighten me with any case in USA where an officer white or black - shot an innocent and unarmed black man for the fun of it.This is a false narrative pushed by the left." *sighs*
I never said "for no reason" or "shot an innocent just for fun." I never did.

"Shooting or tazeing (I can't spell it apparently lol) a person just for walking away or refusing to answer questions, but they aren't actually harming or threatening to harm anyone isn't necessary at all! Nobody's life is in danger!"

So, now I'm confused. You never said "for no reason" yet you are saying shooting or tasering someone for simply "just walking away or refusing to answer questions" is wrong. Which in my opinion is basically saying for no reason. I never quoted you for saying either of those things above -

To me "no reason" just meant that the cop just walked up and shot for literally, no reason.
Sorry for the confusion.

and this is to your response below because imgflip won't let me respond past a certain point:
I am not talking about that.
The definition of racial profiling is: "the use of race or ethnicity as grounds for suspecting someone of having committed an offense." Google it. If you are suspicious of someone because of race, that is actually kinda racist.
racial profiling usually ends up going against blacks. Even if it is subconsciously. If a white cop sees a black person just walking and stops him because he thinks it is suspicious that he is just walking in the neighborhood, that is racial profiling and it is bad.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48306822

I would bet there are plenty of black police officers that profile young black men in Chicago - would that be considered racist? Only speculation of course.

I mean, you wouldn't find it odd lets say - if you lived in a particular higher-end neighborhood and you spot a particular individual (lets not even mention race) wearing baggy cloths, pants pulled below their ass, a bandana, etc. You wouldn't question that - when you're use to your neighbors not dressing in that attire? That would be how crimes are committed, because someone was afraid to speak up because they are profiling.

Better safe than sorry. I know I'm not a racist so I'm not concerned with what others believe. If I see something that appears to be abnormal behavior for a particular area, etc. I'm reporting that shit. Worst thing that happens is your wrong - best case you could have stopped a robbery, carjacking, etc.

The problem is that some (white) people call the cops or some (white) cops are suspicious of people because they are black and "don't look like they belong there" because they are just walking. A lot of the time in places they live in or frequent. Just because being black made them scary and suspicious in the eyes of those people. The problem isn't profiling. It's profiling based on race and prejudices against said race. Racial profiling. Don't try to twist my words. I'm not saying profiling is bad. I'm saying RACIAL profiling is bad.

The last time I “racially profiled” I stopped a man that was performing home invasions.

I was leaving a friends house at 2am and observed a black man (not that race matters because I would have profiled a white man the same) that was acting awfully suspicious in their neighborhood.

I called the cops - as a white man - and they followed up my call to let me know it was a man they were looking for that performed numerous break-ins over the last few weeks.

I’ll always profile - race or not. It’s not “racist”. There is a difference - believe it or not. Better to be wrong than let a potential criminal roam around because you were scared to be an assumed racist.

No but there have been times cops have seen a black person and think they are suspicious when the person isn't even doing anything suspicious and then when the person refuses to come with the cop or whatever because they haven't done anything wrong (a lot of it has to do with psychology) the cop uses extreme force that is completely unnecessary.
Now when I say that I don't mean all cops are bad. *Some* just get suspicious of people because they deal with people who look like them who are into drugs or violent or whatever but they are cops so of course those are gonna be the ones they deal with.
Shooting or tazeing (I can't spell it apparently lol) a person just for walking away or refusing to answer questions, but they aren't actually harming or threatening to harm anyone isn't necessary at all! Nobody's life is in danger!

Okay, but profiling (racial - white or black) is what keeps people safe and alive. The police do not know if the persons in question "did nothing wrong". If someone is innocent - comply. Answer their questions and acknowledge your innocence. If the officers strip you of your constitutional rights - sue them. I see nothing wrong with protecting your rights by lawsuit.

I've profiled people; white, black, men, women - you name it. I profile on location, race, what clothing you are wearing, are your hands in your pockets, are you moving quickly, do you appear to me suspiciously looking around? I mean - nothing wrong with that. Doesn't make you "racist", it makes you AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.

Again, as I said in another post - provide any case where an officer rolled up and shot someone who did nothing; just "walking away". Again, if one puts an officers life - or others - by resisting arrest, you are now taking the risk of getting shot or tased at the very least.

You’ve been watching too many police dramas on TV.

Except the capitol right

Except the capitol right?

Whites girls can get shot unarmed & no one cares.

Police have the authority and responsibility to arrest you with probable cause. If in the course of that action, you resist they will use whatever force is necessary to subdue you and that sometimes results in the death of one or the other.

I would prefer the cop go home at night.

The Constitution prefers that they both live through the night. Again, resisting arrest is a misdemeanour charge at most and does not carry an extrajudicial death penalty. The Constitution explicitly says that NO penalty should be administered extrajudicially.

The cop preferred that they both go to bed that night. The cop to his home and the criminal to a jail cell.

Once the cop says you are under a rest it is up to you what happens next.

Well, what happened next was he surrendered and got shot. So maybe the cop had a bit more agency in the situation than you're letting on.

And that was a mistake made in a split second.

It shouldn't have happened.

It wouldn't have, had the boy not been out at two am shooting a gun and fled when he was accosted.

You missed the part where it wouldn't have happened if the police hadn't shot him.

That was a ways down the chain of events and also the first thing that I mentioned.

You missed the point if he just complied he would not have died in the first place! So if that happens then 0 fs should be given to him or his family!

Noncompliance with police is a misdemeanour at worst and does not carry the death penalty!

Neither is public intoxication. But when you get drunk and do something stupid - like walking into traffic or resisting arrest - you’re gonna die.

Resisting arrest is a game stupid people who have something to hide that they shouldn’t. Don’t be the guy that plays that game and they’ll treat you like a person and not a suspect.

I don't know where you're from, but here in the USA, you can't execute suspects. Constitution.

I’m from the US and i know police can’t kill suspects but if the suspect was armed with a weapon like a knife or gun and using it to threaten bystanders or them if they got too close and refused to comply with police to drop the weapon then the Police only have recourse left that unfortunately involves the suspect being killed. I’m just trying to clear up what I meant earlier.

Guess what the problem with your theory is?

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

You got me there :(

wow an actually good republican

I’m not a republican :/

oh