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Says the guy who supports thought crime enforcement and restriction to free speech. You’re a woke joke.

The tragic thing is you would be totally ok with that if Biden did it. You hate your own countrymen so much you support police state actions against them for disagreeing.

I would hardly call wanting to defunding the police supporting a police state. Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube are hardly "the state" and organizations and figureheads getting banned for intentionally and repeatedly posting misinformation is perfectly within their legal right to protect their self-interest.

If you were in a police state, YOU would be in a Uyghur prison. Not banned from some social media sites for breaking their terms of services. Assuming you've even done so. I bet you haven't. Just had some of your content disabled or removed. That's more of an annoyance than a "police state"

But you know what? We kind of are in a police state. The US is rounding up a group of people and unlawfully detaining them. The people on the border, to the south, who've come here seeking refugee status are being locked up. Even under Biden this continues to happen.

Of the two of you, I wonder which is against such action despite your political differences, assuming there really are any? Who here really supports a "police state" if it was for YOUR own interests?

It seems to me that the primary criticism of Biden is that he is either not doing enough or doing too much. And I hilariously hear that from both sides of those who voted for him and those whom did not. Personally, I think it's too early to tell but jumping on Biden while trying to prop up the previous President, who lost, is not going to win you more Trump voters.

Quite the opposite.

You would hardly call it that because you want to defund the traditional police and replace them with thought police enforcers.

Controlling our borders doesn’t make us a police state. Every country in the world does it. It’s necessary to not overwhelm the country and its ability to serve its citizens. Do you really think open borders will have no impact on this country. Your naïveté is incredible.

"You would hardly call it that because you want to defund the traditional police and replace them with thought police enforcers."

Strawman. I made no such claim.

"Controlling our borders doesn’t make us a police state."

I'm sure a Chinese Nationalist would argue much the same thing about Uyghurians.

"Do you really think open borders will have no impact on this country."

Is that a question? If so, I'll answer it. Yes, it will. And no one can easily predict whether it will be determental or not. Maybe some groups of people who fear that they one day may be the majority might feel threatened by an influx of refugees, or potential future citizens from a foreign country but I'm not one of those.

Are you? I'm too "naïve" to make such assumptions unlike you.

The Uyghurs are IN China silly.

No shit.

So why, as you wrote, would a Chinese nationalist say "controlling our borders doesn't make us a police state" regarding the Ugyhurs when they are already inside China as Chinese citizens?

Doesn’t matter, your statements make the claim. Defunding the police is the dumbest idea ever and has led to increased murder and crime rates. That policy is directly related to killing Americans. Only a fool wants it and by and large America rejected it, progressive propaganda against police led to them losing seats in the house and will result in further losses.

Your personal sense of inadequacies are evident in your need to portray the border invasion as a racial issue. You skipped over the other impacts because you want to sell that racist narrative.

Except, I haven't called you a racist. You called yourself a racist by thinking what I was talking about was race. You hear the word majority and easily got triggered into thinking this was a racial issue. YOU think it's a racial issue, I do not. I think YOU think it's a racial issue but I have no confirmation beyond YOUR attempt to push it as one. So, again, who is the racist here?

Look, you're a racist!

There, I finally said it.

Did it shut you up?

No, it didn't.

You've not been silenced or cancelled.

Being called a racist isn't the end of the conversation, Tucker.

Again, I don't support defunding the police. I'm just calling out your bullshit that the left wants a police state AND want to defund the police. These two things don't work. Just as you can't be a white nationalist and a diverse globalist (another oxymoron that the right frequently levies at the left).

It reeks of doublespeak.

I didn’t say you called me a racist but you implied it by making the statement that some groups are afraid of immigrants will become the majority. You can pretend all
You want. You inferred that it was about race because to you anyone saying open borders and unchecked immigration is bad means they are a racist afraid of immigrants. Every country in the world agrees that is bad and has dire consequences for their country. That’s why they have immigration laws. Why don’t you try and cross into Canada and do the same? Are Canadians discriminating against Americans?

"Doesn’t matter, your statements make the claim."

They really don't. Acknowledging that leftists are for defunding the police is pretty counterintuitive to the notion of a police state. I don't have to agree that defunding the police to see that. And, for the record, I don't.

"Your personal sense of inadequacies are evident in your need to portray the border invasion as a racial issue."

But I'm not. It's a citizenship issue. I disagree with the notion of detaining them illegally but rather would see them become citizens. I don't think detaining them indefinitely, or until their country stabilizes, is a realistic solution. I'm inferring that there are people who may see it as a racial issue and asking if you were concerned it.

I just asked if you were, got defensive, and said I was selling a racist narrative.

As if calling someone racist somehow ends the conversation.

It doesn't, tho. Does it, Tucker?

Defunding the police supports regular crime and has nothing to do with a police state. The desire for a police state is evident in the capitol and the desire to silence dissent and opposition by any means necessary and cancel culture. The left is pushing the totalitarian police state.

It is not illegal to detain border crossers who do not follow the law. You want to make it a racial issue so you can scream racist and that is quite evident.