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2 ups, 4y
I see we’re still in “say something enough times and maybe it’ll be true” land.

No, conservatism is not fascism. Neither is communism or liberalism.
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4 ups, 4y,
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Communism is an open borders thing. Remember that? The left wants globalism and a One World Government - remember that shit? It is incompatible with the hypernationalism hard borders doctrine of fascism.
4 ups, 4y,
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Yes, communism is against the idea of self-owned property and money, eliminating drive to work hard.
Fascism, like communism, is total authoritarianism by man. That’s what is similar.
Whether or not they have the exact same ideas on open borders is irrelevant. But to be honest, a One World Government is a joke.
3 ups, 4y
Sounds like the dark ages all over again.
3 ups, 4y,
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No, Communism - REAL Communism that is - is rule by the authority of the state, the (pay attention here, see when this starts ringing bells) COMMUNity, by COMMitee, who live COMMUNally and farm on COMMUNes.
Workers control production, not vice versa under oligarchs.
"Workers of the world, unite" is their motto.

Fascists are for a centralized authority centered on a dictator, top heavy regimentated managment of the classes - hence the appeal to Conservatives who celebrate the stratified society of yore, and why their most right leaning (extreme) elements worship Hitler.
2 ups, 4y,
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The name of something doesn't determine how good it is.

And staunch conservatives don't worship hitler. Did you notice most of the ppl arguing with these white nationalist accounts that were saying hitler was good were conservatives? And not one conservative i have ever known thinks good of Hitler. Only crazy people do.
2 ups, 4y,
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Who said anything about being good?

We're talking defintions here, ideology, systems that revert to the same as our has because as you almost realized, it is basic human - nay, basic primate, nay, basic social mammal, nay, basic social animal - nature to coalesce their societies or social group around a leader who heads and dominates a hierarchy.

That every Democratic Socialist Republic of *fill in name* just so happens to go the same route as Fascists and - as glaringly exhibited in the last four years, the USA as well - is merely a testimony to instinct, particularly that pertaining to the herd.

And no, I did not notice that most of those arguing with these white nationalist accounts that were saying Hitler was good were Conservatives, as antithesis above, Octavia, Sewmyeyeshut and some others are hardly what anyone would call Conservative, and they're the ones doing it.
Because I as well have been classified as not part of the glorious Conservative club for also siding against neo-Nazis and other extreme Right Wing elements, I too am testimony to that fact.
2 ups, 4y,
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I didn’t say that anyone who argues with them is automatically conservative.

And I don’t know what you mean by the first sentence. You mentioned people worshipping Hitler, and I mentioned thinking good of him. Thinking someone is good doesn’t mean they are.
0 ups, 4y,
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The only Conservative on this site that says anything against Purgie is Sydney.
I've not seen any others, nor going at GeorgeMonger, Ninja2016, and whomever else - only upvotes. Heck, you gotta check out what our esteemed collegues say unfettered on Gab.
We've got an active white nationalist account (that RedPilled stream owner one) with an alt that goes by that name, and though I've not kept track, seems it's mainly LGBT kids who go at them, as it's streams they frequent that they go.

You said "The name of something doesn't determine how good it is"
I have no idea how the name "Hitler" would make anyone think good. Even his cultists adore him for the evil aspect.
1 up, 4y,
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Idek who most of those users are, but I have argued with the white nationalist accounts, and I am not an LGBT kid.
Yes, we both agree. Hitler was freaking evil.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Here you go then:

imgflip.com/m/WhiteNationalists

The originator of this stream (MadTitan) and her alt finally got deleted (she'll be back soon) but simply deleting the stream was a too easy and obvious to do.

So instead of making racism a means for mockery, it makes it into a mockery, which is the same thing only it's the 'good guize' doing it, so therefore it's 'legit.' (Guess who runs it now, yup, a SJW!!!!!)

Do a Feedback Report on it and spread the word.

Forget criticizing it on any meme there, the SJW will delete it so quickly you'll think you didn't hit post so you'll do it again only for the same thing to happen, as has happened to me.

Spread the word that it's using 'woke' to make racism funny while pretending they don't think so.
0 ups, 4y,
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Wait, why are the mods OlympianProduct and Kamikaze? And btw I’ve seen this stream.

Woke and racism are both bad.
0 ups, 4y
The neo nazi that started it fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally got deleted, but apparently deleting streams is beyond the mod's skill set.

Weird, because I'm about as tech savvy as my great great grandpa, yet last night I was able to delete a stream dedicated to hating someone I didn't know that Olympian made me owner of without asking months ago. He didn't know how to remove me from it, so I hit the "DO NOT TOUCH" red button and it was gone, just like a miracle,,,
0 ups, 4y
I just looked at the first page of that stream now.
You would think it was openly promoting a racist FB page, etc, save for the little nudge nudge that indicates it's only just a little joke.
1 up, 4y,
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So if you strip away the lies of the left about Trump you are left with a good economy, stock market, jobs market for 3 years. He literally didn't do anything that the last 3 other presidents did, except reduce regulation and try to get lower medication prices. History will judge him as a 'good' president because of those 3 factors.

The rest of your nonsense says nothing and is gibberish.
0 ups, 4y
What tha hell are you going on about?
0 ups, 4y
imgflip.com/user/WhiteSeparatist

Show me the Conservos arguing against this one.
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4 ups, 4y,
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Nothing irrelevant about it. You're choosing your definitions to fit your point but these words already have definitions that go against what you're saying. You're completely wrong. There is no nationalism under communism but nationalism is put on steroids under fascism.
2 ups, 4y,
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Ok I was probably wrong to say they were equal. But they’re definitely both authoritarian and fascism has absolutely nothing to do with the right.
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4 ups, 4y,
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That's better than what you originally posted.

But try to understand: left-right is NOT a measure of how much authority a government has. It makes VERY little sense to define it that way. It didn't get much more authoritarian than Tsarist Russia, did it? But what was Communism doing in Russia in the first place if it wasn't anti-Tsarist?

EVERY government has a degree of authoritarianism that can go up or down; I can't think of one that DOESN'T.

Generally speaking, left-right usually refers to the levels of hierarchy in a society. On the left, society tries - at least in theory - to keep society equal at all levels with no class distinctions. On the right, inequality is a feature and not a bug - there's SUPPOSED to be clear distinctions between the wealthy and the poor. Under fascism, that top-tier class is to go to the people who led the rebirth of the nation and rid the nation of the liberals who are to sit at the bottom of society if not expelled entirely.

Other ways of defining the left-right scale could refer to things like levels of economic and industrial macromanagement. But, my point is, whoever told you that authoritarianism is by definition an exclusively left wing thing was lying to you to get you to believe in some nonsense.
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2 ups, 4y,
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problem with the left now is they've thrown all reason out the window, they just keep on changing their beliefs and are getting corrupted by both the far left and far right because there's no clear distinction.
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3 ups, 4y,
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I LITERALLY just went through a whole thing about what the clear distinction is.
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2 ups, 4y,
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so antifa is right, the government is fascistic right now.
Your explanation was too long, try and keep it short, google exists
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3 ups, 4y
Well, your explanation was too wrong.
2 ups, 4y
This is incorrect.
Communism, Socialism, and Fascism are all authoritarian because as soon as the government takes power they control everything including the means of production. They have different ways that they lie to the people (except Fascism which is honest about who owns the means of production). Think different flavors of ice cream. Where capitalism, democracy, and republic are fruit.

The only difference between the left and right are that the left believes the ends justify the means. The right does not believe that. They also generally have the same goals: everyone to have equality, help the helpless, protect the country, etc...etc...

The left thinks that forced outcomes makes people equal. The right thinks equal opportunities make people equal. The left thinks the government should regulate and protect everyone at all levels, the right thinks that charity and protection should be left to the free market as it balances itself.
1 up, 4y
National socialists are what the Nazi party was, so yes the socialistic left can do nationalism and be fascists. Good to see you admit you hate the nation and encourage globalism. Finally admitting some truth.
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1 up, 4y,
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When corporation and state merge, you've got fascism
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2 ups, 4y,
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Hypernationalist rebirth of a nation to expel liberals and military dominate weaker countries. You've not got an honest definition of fascism if you skip out so many key aspects.
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
history rhymes, I'm sensing hitler vibes from the current administration
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3 ups, 4y,
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Don't worry, he was voted out. As of Wednesday, he's not in charge anymore.
1 up, 4y
1 up, 4y
Uh no, he just got voted in. They are talking about locking up Trump supporters and censoring congress people that supported Trump. All they have to do is appoint someone to start investigating and we'll have the purge of people with dissenting viewpoints that Hitler had.
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