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Democrats be like:

Tell that to the OP. He's the one that posted this referring to the Capitol Hill riots. I offered him insight to gain perspective. I'm not saying that his metaphor is entirely wise

You should post this to my politicAwwwww stream.

Psst. I know it is, but evidently SukaMadik doesn't.

lol.

You mean the Democratic Party and the entire world has had to deal with and clean up after your whiny little dipsh*t of a president and now we get the opportunity to change it back and make it better?

Trump is the worst. I understand that there were worse people like hitler and Stalin but president wise Trump is the worst. He ruined our economy he ignored COVID-19 and he told riled up radical rightists to storm capital hill. If you can think of a president worse than him then I’ll gladly admit it.

“God emperor Trump the second coming of Jesus” none of that made sense? Also who is that? He’s f*cking ugly

little republic*

The storming of the Capital was the result of people losing faith in a system that is supposed to represent them. I don’t like what they did but I think we should expect more.

It DOES represent them. Attempting a coup because you didn't get what you wanted is more than just people losing faith in the system. The whole thing was terrorism.

I agree with that completely. So with that being said, so were the BLM and Antifa riots.

the rioters just used the movement as an excuse to riot, they weren't actually part of the movement.

I’m sure that is true of all rioters.

That might’ve carried more weight if Trump’s movement wasn’t to specifically throw out the constitution so that he could remain President.

I get that but extremists of all colors tend to do the same thing. They are all wackos who aren’t doing any good.

Not all protestors are extremists.

Rioters are extremists because they use force to try to get people to think the way they do. Peaceful protesters are nothing like that.

I have to agree with music man (dude, you couldn't come up with a longer username?). The system does not represent the people anymore, and the Capitol has become an Ivory Tower. I am not defending the morons who stormed it.

And I think you give them too much credit: this wasn't a coup attempt. CHOP was more of a coup. If this had been a coup, there would have been a plan and more people would have died. This was the impulsive act of a mob.

It's more of their white privilege that prevented them from having more deaths than it seeming less like a coup.

I disagree. They had no real plan beyond some vague idea of taking "action." In a real coup attempt, there would have been more shots fired on both sides, and the protesters would have attempted to hold the Capitol and those inside. This was less an attempt to topple the government than an attempt to bend it to their will. "White privilege" had nothing to do with it.

Yeah once they got in it was as if they had no idea of what to do or where to go. Hell they even followed the roped off areas so kind of hard to say it was a coup when there was nothing to coup. I mean it is not like that building holds all the secrets to alien tech or anything.

I said the same thing about the BLM riots.

I say the same about every riot.

Did anything change?

Insofar as?

Not my riot. Did they see a change in policing?

Actually, yes.

There appears to be more accountability but nothing close to the change they asked for.

Do you think there will be more accountability for this? Pretty sure it’ll just be an increase of security in the capitol building.

Maybe more legislation to make voters more verifiable, but I’d wager they were going to get that without storming the Capitol.

You can’t increase something that was authorized to be disbanded for that event. Not sure what change BLM wants. The message seems more about theft & terror than a list of solutions.

BLM wants police accountability in regards to unarmed civilians being killed by cops.

Prosecutors are prosecuting. Murder cases take a couple years to complete. Vigilante justice wants death immediately without a full investigation. Police training can improve but the liberal leaders in these areas where victims are murdered do not support proper police tactics & budgets.

You mean unarmed black civilians killed by cops.

Which happens literally happens in a rate of 1 to 2.3 Comparitively to white folks. Thats right - more white people die by police officer than black people.

That's just raw numbers. When you account for population density & how many crimes that typically warrant a weapon being pulled on a person -- its actually more like 1 to 5.

Black people commit more violent crimes than whites while only making up 15% of the population. Which means that police ALREADY take extraordinary measures NOT to shoot black people.

Black population is about 1/3 of white population in the US, but they commit over 40% of these types of crimes.

Less population + more percentages of the crimes + getting shot by cops at a rate of 50% that white people do - means the police take CARE already to not shoot black people.

Sorry BLM and any BLM Supporters - you're driving a false narrative. Statistics don't lie. Stop placing criminals on pedistals & acting like you don't already get special treatment.

If they’re criminals and unarmed, then surely there are ways to arrest them without resulting in their death.

I do not agree with BLM, but I’m also not going to distort their purpose. Just because I refuse to lie and say things like, “I don’t know what they really want,” doesn’t mean I support them.

In every one of these situstions - officers provided instruction, criminals resisted arrest.

Hell brianna Taylor? She was cohorting with a known criminal & the people in the house SHOT FIRST.

George Floyd? He was high on Meth amphetamine & continually resisted arrest. His can't breathe was due to his body giving up on living from the vast amounts of drugs he pumped into his system. Then that issue was heightened by the physical brawl it took to subdue him & the complication of a shitty police officer.

I'm not saying he didn't die wrongfully - but he sure as heck wasn't doing much to live and contribute to society.

You can't place criminals on pedistals - while claiming police are targeting black people - when the FACTS don't support your argument.

If white people took to the street because a criminal was shot by a cop - the entire lot of protesters would be labeled Racist - just like the MAGA people that didn't do anything wrong during Jan 6th.

herp derp Right back, atcha skippy🤪 derp

What I don't get is how they spend they're entire lives saying "Don't Tread on Me" and "From my cold dead hand", and when they day finally comes, they deny it and blame it on the left. Bunch of pussies.

Well, lighting fires and then blaming commies does have a long and storied tradition with fascists after all

Throwing a massive temper tantrum in the nations capital really proves trumpites maturity right? Yall have the mental level of a 3rd grader,
1. Yelling and crying and accusing of it being rigged just because you lost
2. Attacking the opposition that you lost to and attacking anybody that thinks you lost
3. Denying everything, every republican that isnt batshit crazy and isnt a conspiracy theorist is a RINO DEEP STATE
There really is no difference between a republican and a 3rd grader

BLM burning and looting their own cities really proves maturity right? They have the mental level of a 3rd grader,
1. Yelling and crying and accusing us of being racists because we disagree with you. News flash: disagreeing with you isn’t the same as hating you.
2. Attacking the opposition that you lost to and attacking anybody that thinks you lost.
3. Denying any wrongdoing and justifying the actions of your wackos by blaming those who had nothing to do with them.
There really is no difference between most liberals and a 3rd grader.

"BLM burning and looting their own cities really proves maturity right? They have the mental level of a 3rd grader,"
>> So dressing like a guy in a Chewbacca Bikini and storming the capitol is so much more mature right?
"1. Yelling and crying and accusing us of being racists because we disagree with you. News flash: disagreeing with you isn’t the same as hating you."
>> 1. Yelling and crying and accusing us of being communists because we disagree with you. News flash. Disagreeing with you isn't the same as being anti-American.
"2. Attacking the opposition that you lost to and attacking anybody that thinks you lost."
>> 2. Attacking the opposition that you lost to and attacking anybody that thinks you lost.
"3. Denying any wrongdoing and justifying the actions of your wackos by blaming those who had nothing to do with them."
>> 3. Denying any wrongdoing and justifying the actions of your wackos by blaming those who had nothing to do with them.
There really is no difference between the extremists on the left or the right in their methodology. The difference is that you're trying to be the party that's clean as a white sheet. (Pun intended.) When you deny the violent acts of extremism of your side pretending that it's a leftist only thing.

<<So dressing like a guy in a Chewbacca Bikini and storming the capitol is so much more mature right?>> Where did I say that?

<< Yelling and crying and accusing us of being communists because we disagree with you. News flash. Disagreeing with you isn't the same as being anti-American.>> I don’t disagree with that at all. That idea assumes that my opinion is the only correct one and takes away any chance at meaningful dialogue. Disagreeing with me doesn’t make you a communist, embracing communist policies and forcing them on me makes you a communist.

You are correct, extremists on both sides are cut from the same cloth. I’m not a Trump lover nor a Biden hater, although I have addressed some things about both. I just want to live my life and raise my family in peace, with as little government intervention as possible.

"Where did I say that?"
>> Calling out one group without the other regarding an issue that is evident in both parties is misleading.
"Disagreeing with me doesn’t make you a communist, embracing communist policies and forcing them on me makes you a communist."
>> That's the issue, there are capitalist ideas we embrace, and there are socialist ideas we embrace as well as communist ideas we embrace. That's the beauty of this country, we can implement laws that are the best of all ideologies. Being a communist is not a binary construct. Rather, it's a spectrum. Just like being liberal or conservative, liberal or authoritarian. Just because you [hypothetically] oppose the right to choose regarding abortion, doesn't mean you *are* an authoritarian. It's just one liberal/libertarian policy you choose not to endorse.

This is true. It’s up to the rest of us to not elect them into public office.

Yeah something like that. Can’t see this character representing anyone but himself.

Remember when libz went to capital hill and tried to deny the election results? remember when HRC filed a ton of lawsuits on states? im sure you dont, because it never happened

This isn’t about that. It’s about condemning one group and praising another when they are doing the exact same thing for the exact same reasons.

To my recollection, Trump Supporters weren’t shot while unarmed by cops.

They were shot by secret servicemen when they rioted.

Well yeah because they’re the SECRET SERVICE. They stop threats.

My point being that BLM were protesting because police were shooting unarmed black people.

And Trump rioters wanted Trump to remain President no matter the cost.

These groups are not the same.

I get that. The BLM riots were because some people were being shot. The Capital riot was because of a lot of butt hurt. The 2016 riots were because of a lot of butt hurt. While one of those come close to having a reason, they were all uncontrolled riots where people broke things and hurt people who did nothing to them.

Only one of those people had a legitimate fear for their life and the lives of their friends and family. And it was neither of the political riots.

Well yeah. People being killed for no good reason is a real problem and although I strongly disagree with rioting and looting, I get their point. I have some issues with BLM but at the end of the day somebody had to stand up to a real issue that was getting worse and worse.

False Narrative - police have it out for Black People. Black Lives Matter then peacefully protests brutality.

When the FACTS show that police actually shoot your represented GROUP LESS than white people - the news and the group are spreading disinformation. Police have taken up body cams, instructional classes regarding racial based integrity, moved to using Tasers and Pepper Sprays as first reactions and more.

True Narrative: despite many advancements in officer community relations, despite many advancements in police safety, Police forces still find themselves being viewed unfavorably after Police shootings affect communities of all color.

Random information: since June, ive been tracking what people think about police brutality. I offered the same scenario to everyone - to be fair.

Two crimes are being committed on opposite sides of the city, equal distances away from police HQ. Both situations involve 2 police officers arriving to the scene - a white and black partner officers. One criminal is white and one criminal is black.

Then asked "which criminal is more likely to be shot?"

100% of the respondants said the black criminal was more likely to be shot. 13 different people - all with the same opinion. The facts though, show otherwise. The white criminal is more likely to be shot.

That is the problem with driving a false narrative. You get a population that is stupid to the facts & then believe whatever the news says to believe.

Where did I say I believed any narrative propagated by BLM? I’m simply explaining that this is what they are protesting. The only thing BLM has in common with Trump Supporters is their facts are wrong. That still doesn’t justify the events at the Capitol.

The problem with the data is the distortion and one thing the data leaves out is how many incidents where white people are shot when unarmed versus black people. The simple answer is, we don’t know. It’s not even recorded. And it should be. The FBI were even prompted to do so but refused because they thought it would be a security risk. Funny that. Just one of the many changes BLM is demanding that I agree with in spite of their faults.

Neither narrative you presented is completely true nor is it true in every case. In your scenario, I say both people would be shot. My question is whether or not if they are armed? If they are not armed (with a gun or otherwise) then surely they can be apprehended alive.

Another false narrative there were Antifa actors in the crowd and they were directly responsible for the violence that occurred. They weren’t. But those who died from the storming of the Capitol were not Antifa but Trump Supporters. Nor the ones identified and apprehended in the death of an officer.

One can accurately report information - instead of perpetuating a false narrative.

Police Brutality isn't a false narrative.

Democrats stealing the election through widescale fraud is.

The math and statistics don't fit the phrase "legitamit" fear. Not when you are shot (more than) 50% less often than other groups. Especially when you factor your group makes up 15% of the population, but commits 40% of gun related crimes. When your group commits more of the crime, while making up less of the population - & get shot at a 50% less raw numbers ratio....

Its not a legitamit fear. Its a narrative driven fear, to keep population divided.

How does one measure fear?

The distinction is that one is life or death and the other is political. Do you think people are more afraid of losing political representation than they are their life? I suppose it is possible since four Trump supporters gave their life on January 6th with more claiming much the same after.

But in my opinion, I would not call these people rational. Especially if they think they’ll lose their rights if Trump doesn’t suspend their rights. This is just not rational thinking.

In my experience with Covid, you can quote statistics all you like but there are some levels people are comfortable with and some levels people aren’t.

People frequently protest to people in positions of power. Especially when that power is witnessed or interpreted to be abused. It is absurd to protest criminal behavior of people who are not in power because we have law enforcement. It is not absurd to expect law enforcement to not shoot or kill unarmed civilians.

It IS recorded though. That's the point. It is recorded verifiable data - that the US Department of Statistics or whatever their name is.

They track unarmed verses armed assailants. They track which cops shot which people and whether the person died was which race/ethnicity.

I did leave out the crime thing - it was armed robbery at a gas station. But the facts from the death counts - do speak that statistically - they white criminal would be shot before the black criminal.

Also - The one dude has already Publically stated he is AntiFA & the narrative is still that he was a Trump Supporter. Also did you see the little old lady that "stormed" the capitol? Youre telling me she FORCED her way in there?

That data is tracked but not by the federal government.

The only people collecting that data at this time are news organizations like the Washington Post. And, I somehow doubt you'd agree that their data is completely uncompromised by bias.

Are you saying White Supremacists don't grow old?

Too bad some of those "Trump" supporters were actually AntiFA actors that have appeared at multiple BLM and AntiFA "peaceful protest" & there is video proof of officers waving in these "Trump Supporters" & pulling back the fence gate for them to do so.

The dude carrying away the podium? AntiFA. The dude with the stupid Viking helmet? Also AntiFA - its really easy to push a narrative when your stage actors have to be masked.

Makes them reeeeeeal hard to tell apart from people that were there.

But also - yeah - 5 straight months of burning shit down and having people bailed out & never pursued , that is ok.

Oh yeah - only people hurt were actually hurt by the capitol police, not the rioting terrorists your MSM jizz fest tells you.

Lot of actors out there today and a lot of anarchists that seem to just be where things are bad. Like they gravitate to those places. Someone pays for them to get there that is for sure.

any proof they're actually actors that work for AntiFa?

You can follow their media followings and group activities & yes - connect the dots. These dudes ain't making it to DC on their own dime.

Its call driving a narrative as far into the ground as possible.

Because now - all they have to do is unleash these folks wherever and whenever & the public will live in fear, which makes their rights easier to strip.

Welcome to the Communist States of America. Hope you don't want to own anything

Really, wheres your proof?

Do your own research you wet napkin.

If there is no proof then he can't do his own research.

The burden of proof is on you.

This is what I came up with.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/07/fact-check-capitol-trespasser-in-horns-misrepresented-as-antifa/6581755002/

Got anything to counter it?

Yes - when fact checkers are owned and operated by censorship platforms, their facts can be trusted as much as you can free speech on their platforms.

So nothing to counter it.

Gotcha!

Troll elsewhere.

Actually, pointing out that the fact checkers and media platforms are paid by the same entities & entities that perform in censorship of free speech - is a response and not a troll.

The associated press fact checked & censored free speech to help empower Hitler...

But the associated press fact checking and censoring happening today is totally different right?

UnBury your head from the sand good memer.

The problem with your position is that you discredit any media that you dislike while gobbling up all that propaganda from even more dubious sources. You can say anything then claim the press lied. Then when people disagree with your ludicrous claim, and ask for sources as they should, you can tell them to do their own research. And they’ll search and search and search and never find it. Because it either doesn’t exist or it’s you running off of one snip of a YouTube video you saw once and can’t remember where you absorbed the information.

You can bitch about censorship and fact-checking all the live long day but claims always need sources or else people are right to doubt you.

I watch news from both sides of the fence. CNN, FOX, OAN NBC... To get both sides of the story. To make educated decisions on the information presented. To push passed the narrative to get to actual content. I can't help it that the major news networks are doing what they are doing. I didn't ask them to partake in narrative and censorship. That is their choice.

Ignoring it is your choice. Putting it on blast - is my choice.

There isnt anyone discrediting censorship right now. Its happening En masse -and its happening because the entities censoring things "don't like the opinions" coming out of the other side. Its happening to the President of the US. He is literally saying things like violence is bad & is silenced in his message.

Then they use narrative to say how his words encite violence, while ignoring the fact that the other side of the argument burned shit down for 5.5 months straight. And that they called the engagements mostly peaceful protests.

Then - they call upon their fact checkers that they own - to produce the narrative that helps their cause.

If you can't see the correlation between what occurred in Nazi Germany (and how it got to that point) and what is happening now - you've simply got your head in the sand.

Hearing what you want to hear and seeing what you want to see isn’t “pushing past the narrative”. It’s believing what you want to believe despite the evidence.

You’re choosing to remain ignorant while constructing a counter-narrative because you believe everything told to you is a lie. That isn’t getting both sides. That is literally what Orwell warned about with the concept of doublethink.

There is no censorship. The people being banned from social media are those who are calling for violence or worse organizing it. There are people spreading misinformation, often altered or no evidence or source provided.

I’ve spoken to hundreds of people on Twitter and Facebook this week who are not only conservative but Trump Supporters as well so political belief is not what why accounts are being suspended. Only a handful have been banned or their accounts temporarily suspended.

Trump spent almost two months using Twitter to lie to the American people about something that did not happen. These claims were challenged through all official channels and online and yet ant evidence presented was dubious at best or worse lacking in any real significance. Trump doesn’t get a pat on the back for asking for peace in his last tweet anymore than Manson gets a pass because he didn’t technically commit the crimes himself.

There is correlation between now and Nazi Germany. We’re at this point.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

When one man is your definitive source for truth, the whole system collapses. Because humans are flawed and were never meant to be worshiped as supreme beings among their own. We’re all capable of being gods, sure, but there is only one true God. And He is not Donald Trump.

Yes Hatless Carmen San Diego & Granny Muscles stormed & broke through police lines?? These majorly threatening monsters of destruction??

They didn't do that to AntiFA or BLM - when they incited violence and destruction. Nope. They called it mostly peaceful protests. They allowed those groups to plan and gather.

Then they turn around and censor other people for doing the same thing at MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH lower scale.

That is called driving narrative and CENSORSHIP.

Asshole

Whole Ass ;-)

I ask for proof, you refuse to give it, perfect logic and im lazy right?

Yeah because you have the mfn internet. USE IT. Type and find your own data you lazy bastards are always asking for shit Find the shit on your own. Be productive. This is a meme site not a f**king library.

Dont you have the mother f**king internet? If you claim something you bring proof, thats how it works

Because it is not our job to make your dumbass smarter. you have a brain and fingers. Use em. Eat puppy turds this is not a fact site. Fact sites are usually assholes like your dumbass f**king around changing the facts that used to be facts. Get your self a man diaper and eat some stfu stew if you don't like it. I am not here to entertain your stupidity. FIGURE SHIT OUT DUMBASS.

Asshole, go f**king eat a cock

I whine because work is hard & I would rather be a lifeless Muppet than actually do work myself.

I am pretty sure you can spell a fart in this way. Or maybe your brain is more like ffffwwwwaptthwaaaaapbbbrp but you may be too limited and need a source so get to it and start recording.

F**king leave prick, go back to parler or gab

Google search Salty Cracker YouTube - check out the BLM and AntiFA protests that happened last year & then look at those two clowns. They ain't Trump Supporters. Also check his videos to show the Police Officer opening the gate up and waving people in.

Thank you for bringing proof

Oh so it is a lazy thing - typical democrat wants things done for them instead of working hard themselves. What a pathetic joke.

I dont think you understand the politics stream, lol. Its the one place where memeing gets set aside & identity rationalization breeds rampantly.

Everything in this stream? Has everything to do with what political lines the MSM says you have to believe. The conservative and rational democrats like myself (who has worked hard since he was 12) consistently remind these folks to think for themselves.

But that requires more than a 60 character tweet & the government will give them everything.

Case in point - dude wants proof, instead of researching it themselves. Its easier to believe CNN than it is to research...

Its an odd response from you though - considering I was backing your side of the argument.

Learn how to use pplitics stream bruh

Also "Boop" - your nose has been booped too.

Its one of his last three videos